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I'm all for making it thinner. I walked into best buy to check the iPad Air out and it was uncomfortably heavier than my iPad mini (non retina). It was a genuine interest that flew out the window as soon as I held it in my hands.
 
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Do we really need a thinner iPad? If it is lighter I suppose that is good but I am personally not completely satisfied with the battery life of my iPad Air. I'd kind of like another big improvement there 1st. 12hr battery life like the MBA 13" would be nicer than a slightly thinner tablet.

I'll be sticking with the first gen iPad Air anyway but I sometimes wonder about Apple's priorities.

I think with the iPad, thinner and lighter is better. Battery life is already amazing so the aim should really be to get it as close to a sheet of paper as possible.
 
What's your issue with the battery life on the iPad Air? It easily does 12 hours already - I often exceed even that by wide margins. I don't want them to reduce it in order to make it thinner, but if it could stay the same, then yes, by all means, get me closer to a digital piece of paper!

I guess I'm using it wrong? I use mine for reading mostly and annotating pdfs and I have to charge it everyday if I am using it a lot. I certainly don't feel like I am getting 12hrs. I use it on autobrightness most of the time.
 
I think with the iPad, thinner and lighter is better. Battery life is already amazing so the aim should really be to get it as close to a sheet of paper as possible.

Thinner and lighter is better, for sure, as long as battery life, performance, and especially body rigidity are not compromised.

I can hardly comprehend the horrors of using an iPad that had the rigidity of a sheet of cardboard.
 
I guess I'm using it wrong? I use mine for reading mostly and annotating pdfs and I have to charge it everyday if I am using it a lot. I certainly don't feel like I am getting 12hrs. I use it on autobrightness most of the time.

It depends how you use it. Battery life is different for everyone.

I feel like asking if it is the WiFi or the 3G model, but honestly. Who cares.
 
Thinner and lighter is better, for sure, as long as battery life, performance, and especially body rigidity are not compromised.

I can hardly comprehend the horrors of using an iPad that had the rigidity of a sheet of cardboard.

Battery life isn't really an issue for the most part. And I'm thinking maybe a flexible body/display once it gets to that level. Not sure.
 
Battery life isn't really an issue for the most part. And I'm thinking maybe a flexible body/display once it gets to that level. Not sure.

Well, it would make using the iPad for music production easier, if you can just use it as a Wobble Board, like Rolf Harris...

Yeah, I don't really see that as much of a selling point.
 
It depends how you use it. Battery life is different for everyone.

I feel like asking if it is the WiFi or the 3G model, but honestly. Who cares.

It is WiFi only. Charging right now (it charges so slowly). But to be fair I didn't have it at 100% at the beginning of the day. Probably eventually I'll do a factory reset and see if that helps.
 
It is WiFi only. Charging right now (it charges so slowly). But to be fair I didn't have it at 100% at the beginning of the day. Probably eventually I'll do a factory reset and see if that helps.

IPads don't charge slow either. I think you're having issues with yours.
 
It is WiFi only. Charging right now (it charges so slowly). But to be fair I didn't have it at 100% at the beginning of the day. Probably eventually I'll do a factory reset and see if that helps.

Are you charging from a power outlet, with the power adapter that came with it? Charging an iPad from a computer USB port or with an iPhone adapter causes it to charge very slowly. If you are using the proper charger, if you plug it in when you go to bed, it should be at 100% by morning. If not, something is wrong, call Apple.
 
It's looking good! Thinner and lighter is always welcomed when it comes to iPads! I'm sure the new mini will also be thinner and lighter then the original mini.
 
the auto brightness convenience function uses battery power. If you are using it to save battery instead of manually controlling brightness you could be using more battery than with it turned off.
 
I have had an iPad Retina since it was introduced in the fall of 2012. I passed on the iPad Air, though, because my iPad Retina was only a year old and I was more than happy with it. This year, though, I will be buying the new iPad Air 2 if a rumor I saw yesterday is true. According to the report to which I have linked, the new iPad Air 2 will have an antireflective screen. If that turns out to be true I will be shouting Hosannahs! while driving to the Apple Store to pick up one of them.
 
the auto brightness convenience function uses battery power. If you are using it to save battery instead of manually controlling brightness you could be using more battery than with it turned off.

You think the ambient light sensor draws that much power?
 
You think the ambient light sensor draws that much power?

I don't think gigaguy was implying that the light sensor uses a lot of power. It's just that the auto brightness function maximizes visibility, not battery power. So if you're trying to conserve battery, you might be better off manually setting the brightness lower than where auto brightness will set it.
 
I don't think gigaguy was implying that the light sensor uses a lot of power. It's just that the auto brightness function maximizes visibility, not battery power. So if you're trying to conserve battery, you might be better off manually setting the brightness lower than where auto brightness will set it.

Apples implementation maybe is crap. With my 4s it used to go brighter but if the room was darker it would stay bright. With Android it goes up and down. So auto brightness is good on Android.

My phone is at 0% right now. It is on Auto. I'm in a dark room. Wouldn't be good if it was set at 70%. I don't want to go in and constantly be setting the brightness.
 
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Apples implementation maybe is crap. With my 4s it used to go brighter but if the room was darker it would stay bright. With Android it goes up and down. So auto brightness is good on Android.

It is true that the sensor will not dim your screen if you're in a room that goes from bright the dark. However if that occurs, simply press the power button and then turn it back on. The brightness will appropriately adjust when you do that.
 
It is true that the sensor will not dim your screen if you're in a room that goes from bright the dark. However if that occurs, simply press the power button and then turn it back on. The brightness will appropriately adjust when you do that.

I know. Which was ridiculous. My Android phone automatically does it. I don't have to be turning the screen on and off all day.

It is the crap auto brightness of ios that is bad, not auto brightness itself.
 
People think it'll take an A8 for iOS to run "well" on iPad? My old iPad 4 ran iOS 7 perfectly well and my Air is smoother/quicker again. The iPad Air runs iOS 7 perfectly well and will run iOS 8 just as well if beta 5 is anything to go by, and we still have the public build to come.

I've gone from iPad 3 to 4 to Air in the last 3 years and I love this iPad, I'm not upgrading annually again and there's no other family members who need to benefit from a free hand-me-down iPad from me.
 
Any chance the ipad air2 will have the same form factor as the current generation?

So it would have a 2 year form factor cycle like the iPhone...

And the weight is way less of an issue with the latest gen than the previous generations.
 
You people are crazy if you think the A8 is going to make the A7 obsolete you are probably going to be disappointed. From the way it seems the A8 is going to be a continuation of the 64 bit architecture and offer improvements in efficiency but the differences are most likely not going to be drastic. iOS 8 will be the first os to fully utilize the A7.
 
Do we really need a thinner iPad? If it is lighter I suppose that is good but I am personally not completely satisfied with the battery life of my iPad Air. I'd kind of like another big improvement there 1st. 12hr battery life like the MBA 13" would be nicer than a slightly thinner tablet.

I'll be sticking with the first gen iPad Air anyway but I sometimes wonder about Apple's priorities.

What are you talking about? I get 15-17 hours of battery life on my iPad easy. Are you one of those people who insists on having the screen on 100% brightness? A heavy gamer? Do you use Bluetooth a lot? Have a cellular iPad in an area that has poor reception? Have background refresh turned on? All these things can kill battery life.
 
What are you talking about? I get 15-17 hours of battery life on my iPad easy. Are you one of those people who insists on having the screen on 100% brightness? A heavy gamer? Do you use Bluetooth a lot? Have a cellular iPad in an area that has poor reception? Have background refresh turned on? All these things can kill battery life.

Yeah, I get great battery of my iPad too. On normal (comfortable) brightness, internet/reddit browsing, Wifi, I'm getting solid >10 hours, with lowest being around 11-12 and max being over 18.
 
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