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New Low-Cost iMac Nearly 50% Slower in Multi-Core, 10% Slower in Single-Core Benchmarks

SoAnyway said:
Really sad to see notebook class chips go into a desktop machine.

I get that the $200 savings is a lot for many people and this lower price point is friendlier and more enticing for people who want to get a Mac but I personally think that anyone considering a tech purchase should eat the $200 and get a better machine, one that isn't 40% slower.
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What is a better machine? Knowing you have a better machine or actually using the greater performance?

Spending more on a "better" machine when you will never use it's capabilities is a waste of money. I see many people getting talked into buying more than what they need because their techie friend was pushing what they would get over what the person actually needed. This machine will be fine for most people and they save $200. Hardly a bad move by Apple.

The 40% difference in performance is only for multithreaded applications. Most people will not see the difference since the single threaded performance is near identical.

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deconstruct60 said:
More like pragmatically sub $200 these days.

http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-22bw-21-5-Monitor/dp/B00BQ2BYPG

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-CFGKT-IPS-LED-21-5-Inch-LED-lit-Monitor/dp/B009H0XQPU/

Unless have to be an all Apple set up, a Mac Mini + $200 IPS monitor budget makes some sense. Would make even more if Mini was simply updated to 4600 status (or better) at same price points.
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Regardless an iMac is considerable neater than a Mac mini and external display. That HP one is hideous. For a customer who is looking at an iMac versus a Mac Mini external display for a desktop that will only ever be used for browsing, email and a few documents I'd wager most people would fork out an extra few hundred on an iMac and they won't even notice a performance difference.

Aesthetics is just as important a feature as any other.
 
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If this is Apple's attempt at regaining any ground in the educational markert, it's not going to have the slightest effect. In the USA, Chromebooks are going to swamp the schools, and even here in Australia, the interest is picking up in Google's offerings, but from listening to some teacher friends, anything Apple in Australia in education is not an option at all. It's lower cost Windows 8.1 machines now, as they are easy to maintain and cheap and provide everything the student requires.
 
KeeFX said:
If this is Apple's attempt at regaining any ground in the educational markert, it's not going to have the slightest effect. In the USA, Chromebooks are going to swamp the schools, and even here in Australia, the interest is picking up in Google's offerings, but from listening to some teacher friends, anything Apple in Australia in education is not an option at all. It's lower cost Windows 8.1 machines now, as they are easy to maintain and cheap and provide everything the student requires.
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This has always been the case hasn't it? Apple is probably not interested in flooding its products into every grade school in the nation.
 
tylersdad said:
You can get an Acer all-in-one with a 23 inch touchscreen monitor, 1TB drive, 2.5 GHz cpu for nearly $200 less that will run circles around this new iMac. They are extravagantly overpriced.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-aspire-u-series-23-touch-screen-all-in-one-computer-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/3289007.p?id=1219090033877&skuId=3289007&st=categoryid$abcat0501005&cp=1&lp=3
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1) it's Acer
2) it doesn't run OSC
3) it'll probably last 2 years, if that
4) it'll cost $200 more over the years it'll run.

So you might as well opt for the iMac
 
i see these making the most sense in extremely price yet brand sensitive markets and mostly targeted toward those in education in those markets. Lots of schools in Turkey through Asia and Central through South America for example. Couple hundred bucks already means quite a bit to these markets and multiply that by a few hundred to outfit a school. The schools showing Apple iMacs as learning tools will win the parents trying to place their kids into the better schools. Multi-core performance means absolutely nothing to them but brand and aesthetics help grease the decision makers.
 
unplugme71 said:
1) it's Acer
2) it doesn't run OSC
3) it'll probably last 2 years, if that
4) it'll cost $200 more over the years it'll run.

So you might as well opt for the iMac
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The statement "this acer is cheaper than this apple and performs well" is probably applicable all the time

although the acer listed is on sale and has worst graphical performance.
 
Slow and overpriced

Just as Slender Man himself used to make 'em! Glad to see that post-Steve, the core values are intact.
 
JoshAlfie said:
You missed the part where I wrote that the iMac is a much neater solution. Most families want a clean desktop without any wires and external displays and the Mac mini does not solve this issue. Additionally, most external screens look ugly on a desk.

Plus they are not going to replace the hard drive themselves on an out of warranty iMac they will take it to the Genius Bar. So your point about repair ability is not relevant to the average family, which this machine is intended to target.
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A vesa mount for a mac mini could look just as clean an iMac. Just install the mini behind the display.

Maybe it would be good to work in IT with a iMac equipped school, I could waste half my day going to a Genius bar appointment to change a faulty hard drive. Waste another half day picking it up all for a 20 min hard drive change.


Lots of people in this thread are saying the target is the education market.

I don't think you know what the average family is. With the decline in desktop sales, I would say the average family are buying laptops.

The family that needs the most bang for their buck will get a mini with a 24" 1200P display or 1080P display. Use the same display for windows laptops or an xbox.


There is a Market for the new iMac and I understand why apple did this. I think they priced it a little too high. At 999$ i would say there is value in it
 
People are forgetting that its the coupling of hardware and software that makes this one of the best computers on the market today. The out-of-the-box experience is just delightful from the moment you see the boot screen. It's certainly better than anything on the Windows side. And at this price, it's a no brainer purchase for pretty much anyone.
 
iCore24 said:
What about the power users!! (The people who held out of buying the old iMac for a more faster upgraded model) They got to upgrade this low end version and end up paying more!
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Power users are supposed to spend $3000 on that trash can computer. I mean look how innovative it is. It's shiny and shaped like a roll of toilet paper
 
FrozenDarkness said:
All-in-one market is meant to be sleek and beautiful, not gaming quality. If you want gaming quality graphics, you most likely will be looking at a desktop.

I don't know what you guys want! Is there another all-in-one out there with better graphics or something?

You're buying the wrong product if you're looking at apple to give two cents about gaming quality graphics chips.
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When I said desktop computer, I did not mean git laptop on a stand.
I meant a computer for your desktop.

We have laptops on stands, or a macpro that's only been made for and any good for video editing. that's it
 
Piggie said:
When I said desktop computer, I did not mean git laptop on a stand.
I meant a computer for your desktop.

We have laptops on stands, or a macpro that's only been made for and any good for video editing. that's it
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the imac isn't a desktop computer, it's an all-in-one. i just don't understand the thought in this. A dekstop is big and boxy in order to air out all the desktop grade components you want. All-in-one is sleek, you're not even supposed to see that there' s acomputer in there. That's the point. That's the market.
 
The Doctor11 said:
"We don't ship junk" Steve Jobs

What the **** happened to we don't ship junk. This is junk!!! This is not what apple is...this is not what apple should become! This is not the apple I love. This is ********... Slower! They released a computer slower then the last! I can't believe it. How could they even think of doing this?
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There was no last. It's a damn new model and price point. Get it through you heads people.
 
Hilarious.
Apple continue to go backwards, pinching pennies wherever they can.

My old desktop PC that I built back in 2008 for £800 can get a Geekbench score of 10,000.
I haven't used it for a couple of years because I use a mbp in it's place now, thankfully a late 2011 15" with SSD + HD (and that HD space is very, very much needed. I don't know how people cope with the tiny HD sizes in the newer mbp's. I'd have to cart around an external drive everywhere I go).

Apple continue to baffle me. Their product lines get worse and worse.
...and don't even start me talking about their shambolic excuses for software these days, lol. I just had a 3 day battle with Aperture randomly altering the metadata in a new 2000 photo project.
Aperture deleted. Lightroom came to the rescue.
Quality control just isn't in their vocabulary nowadays. It's profit above all and ignore the bugs and design flaws (2011 mbp's are dropping like flies and Apple still haven't issued a recall!).
Shame.
 
COrocket said:
LMAO I'll stick with my 2012 $800 mac mini that benchmarks 12000+
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Exactly. This is like Bizarro world. Between this an Apple proudly announcing that 8 gig iPhone 5c, I feel like I am in the last episode of TNG, where time is running backwards.
 
xmichaelp said:
There was no last. It's a damn new model and price point. Get it through you heads people.
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What do you mean there was no last. It is a fact that there was a pervious iMac. And it's a fact it was much faster. Not to sure what I should be getting in my head here other than apple is downgrading stuff and calling it new.
 
dumastudetto said:
people are forgetting that its the coupling of hardware and software that makes this one of the best computers on the market today. The out-of-the-box experience is just delightful from the moment you see the boot screen. It's certainly better than anything on the windows side. And at this price, it's a no brainer purchase for pretty much anyone.
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bs
 
The Doctor11 said:
"We don't ship junk" Steve Jobs

What the **** happened to we don't ship junk. This is junk!!! This is not what apple is...this is not what apple should become! This is not the apple I love. This is ********... Slower! They released a computer slower then the last! I can't believe it. How could they even think of doing this?

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Anyone notice Tim Cook quietly sitting beside Jobs in this clip. Now we all know what he was thinking...."....oh yes we will, when I'm at the helm. Stripped down iphone? Check. Stripped down iPod? Check. Stripped down mac. Check

This is not looking good for apple.
 
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