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Perfect video response. I remember this video from years ago. It was what Apple stood for. High quality computers from the inside-out. Tim Cook just did this AND he was right next to Jobs during this!

Yeah I sure hope Apple is real proud that the brand new iMac is 40% slower. 40%! Thats just a huge number.
 
New Title ... :)

In other words...

"This is not the mac you are looking for, move along."

Seriously spend the extra 200$ and you'll be happier longer unless your looking for a Facebook machine. In which case buy and iPad.
 
I'm not going to defend this computer or its price, but OTOH I've never liked comparisons such as yours. Comparing a sales or refurb price to an MSRP price is inherently unfair except for people who need a computer immediately, because eventually this model will also have sales and refurb prices.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. My only point was I can rather easily find the existing $1,299 model on sale for $1,149 today at local retailers, so the new one certainly isn't a good deal today at $1,099. Now, once it falls to $999 or less eventually, that may change of course, but I was referring to what you can get today for the price.
 
Yeah I sure hope Apple is real proud that the brand new iMac is 40% slower. 40%! Thats just a huge number.

Exactly. I remember showing that video to people. It meant so much on where the Apple brand stood for. They build their products with so much design and thought, then you sell this? Shameful. I hope it fails and they remove it.
 
So much for quality first.

Apply's new approach to innovation: lower quality, lower cost, more marketing.

I dumped Apple in 1995 and didn't come back until 2011 because of BS like this. Back then they had absurdly lower performance for an obscenely higher price and I wasn't the only one to jump ship Apple nearly went bankrupt. I came back when the MBA in 2011 suddenly offered the best hardware and performance for the price compared to ANY other laptop manufacturer. Many millions of other people did the same. It looks like Apple is starting to return to their old ways. Perhaps they'll do themselves in this time. What was their share price then? $11 wasn't it?
 
So much for quality first.

Apply's new approach to innovation: lower quality, lower cost, more marketing.

Another passive aggresive negative apple post from you. Sorry you are utterly wrong the Quality is the same which is unbeatable in the market. It's lower cost and price yes.

The point is it will work fine for 80% of users that make a few videos and post stuff on Facebook.

The only thing is they should have hit the $999 sweet spot.
 
So you pay 83% of the cost of the higher spec'd machine and get 60% of the performance. Makes sense.

You pay 83% of the cost of the higher spec'd machine and get 100% of the performance you need 99% of the time. Makes sense. For many people.

I just looked at the Dell website. The difference is: Their processors are sold as "up to xxx GHz". So the same processor on Dell's website would not be 1.4 GHz, but 2.7 GHz. And they absolutely don't tell you what the number of cores is.
 
We (a school) are about to buy 64 iMacs this week, we might now go for the entry model instead but upgrade it to the 256GB SSD, so its still cheaper than the previous entry iMac and we get the SSD performance, any modern intel CPU should be good enough for our tasks, and we have Macbook Airs 2013 models and the CPU is not an issue in those, the SSD makes them very snappy and responsive.

As for iPads , schools are buying them, not so much chromebooks, at least in the schools i work in and speak to.

They were buying iPads but now all the teachers are requesting chromebooks. They are easier to update and google classroom is pretty big. All students have google accounts controlled by the district. They are making it very easy and the price makes it even better. The only reason there needs to be a Mac in education is for updating iPads.... And with googles momentum that might be short lived...
 
I dumped Apple in 1995 and didn't come back until 2011 because of BS like this. Back then they had absurdly lower performance for an obscenely higher price and I wasn't the only one to jump ship Apple nearly went bankrupt. I came back when the MBA in 2011 suddenly offered the best hardware and performance for the price compared to ANY other laptop manufacturer. Many millions of other people did the same. It looks like Apple is starting to return to their old ways. Perhaps they'll do themselves in this time. What was their share price then? $11 wasn't it?

I joined the Mac community in 2007, and I have not looked back. While this does not change my perspective on buying future macs, this is a sad day. They should not be offering this computer. Maybe instead market your refurbished iMacs, same quality as new ones but are cheaper.
 
Is it quieter? Isn't this a 18 watt TDP chip? Everybody has different needs, but personally I prefer silence over power. The next generation of chips will make an ultra low power configuration even more palatable.

And yes, it could have been a little cheaper. And should have had fusion drive or SSD. Can't we be done with computers that don't include an SSD?
 
Yeah I sure hope Apple is real proud that the brand new iMac is 40% slower. 40%! Thats just a huge number.

If someone needs faster then they can buy that too. It's not like it's gone. The difference is basically down to dual vs quad core.

I could replace the Mac Pro and monitor that I'm using right now for work with this iMac and the only thing that would annoy me is the spinner hard drive, and that's only because I'm spoiled by my SSDs and Fusion drives.

Meanwhile, most of my friends and family still use 5400 or 7200RPM boot drives and have yet to try an SSD. Those are the people that this is targeted at, plus the bulk purchase market.
 
Yikes. Who would opt for this instead of a refurbished model? For a savings of a couple hundred a drop in performance that profound doesn't seem like a good tradeoff.
 
Can't we be done with computers that don't include an SSD?

We are at least 10 years from that, regular hard drives are dramatically cheaper than SSD, almost all your cloud storage lives on good old fashioned hard drives.
 
God I hope not. This will potentially hurt the Apple Brand. Especially if you're coming from Windows and you hear all these great things about the Mac and Mac OS X. This could be devastating to them.

Offering a cheaper product that will do all the work 90 percent of people use a computer for anyway will hurt the brand? Not everyone cares about numbers, they just want a product that works for a cheap price and now they have that in both the laptop and desktop options.
 
This is the same **** Apple did with the SSD in the MacBook Air.

They made the MacBook Air cheaper but cut the SSD speed dramatically!

I really don't like this trend.

Instead of people waiting for new products to be faster for the same price or cheaper, they make it slower and cheaper?!

What about the power users!! (The people who held out of buying the old iMac for a more faster upgraded model) They got to upgrade this low end version and end up paying more!

And to all you blind people defending Apple, you are very stupid!

Imagine you have a iPhone 5s waiting for the iPhone 6... Then they announce a $100 cheaper phone that looks just like the iPhone 5s but has a A6, and kept the normal iPhone 5s still $200... That's what there doing in the computer categorie.

So in other words, what if Apple released the iPhone 5c and no 5s. Just a cheaper 5c and still full priced $200 iphone 5.

Do you understand now why we're mad!!
We want faster machines not lower priced weaker ones!!!

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its not a curious move at all, they're testing the waters to see how people would react to a machine that would be equivalently powered were it to be powered by an ARM CPU.
 
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