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Unless you know how exactly they fix their prices, I would say that it is very doubtful a big company would be wrong and you - right.
Uhm.. That's just arrogant.

Seeing this amount of non-US people complaining about the price is a pretty obvious sign they did something wrong..

Of course, I'm way biased, as I have been, during the last few months, considering to buy a Mac Mini for a mix of desktop computer/media center. Seeing as the price here (Norway) now is the equivalent of ~$1000, I would much rather buy some inexpensive 1080p Windows powered device.
 
It wasn't all that big to begin with, and it was definitely much cheaper. Size alone isn't a serious argument when you compare the mini with its own previous models.

In volume, it's negligibly smaller -- however in height, it's significantly smaller. It's up to the individual to determine how important those facts are. My only point was in response to someone suggesting that similarly spec'd machines (i.e., CPU, RAM, GPU, etc.) go for much less and I guess my point is: "So what?" :)
 
In the Netherlands the new Mac Mini costs now with taxes excluded:
€647,19 that's $795,27 compared to the $699 in the US that's almost $100,- difference... but hey, it's an "American" product (but made in...)

Anyway, looking at the form factor and comparing it with HTPC's, barebones and mini PC's... it looks 100 times better, is 100 times better, performs a lot better, is much much smaller, is (standard) better packed, better materials, PSU much better, etc... so price wise it doesn't compete, but it does with design and hardware.
Considering it with the next:
I think with designer clothing it's the same, materials can be the same, but the design, quality, fit and finish make it a lot more expensive then cheap clothing.

I think it is not that expensive, for what it is. But it is not something that fits in my needs, that's why I love my iMac 21,5. They are not the same.
Although I like the idea of the new Mini next to my 42" Full HD TV, but I don't need it. :)
 
Uhm.. That's just arrogant.

Seeing this amount of non-US people complaining about the price is a pretty obvious sign they did something wrong..

For that matter, more than a few US-based people have been complaining :D

Of course, I'm way biased, as I have been, during the last few months, considering to buy a Mac Mini for a mix of desktop computer/media center. Seeing as the price here (Norway) now is the equivalent of ~$1000, I would much rather buy some inexpensive 1080p Windows powered device.

I find Linux-powered devices more attractive (especially barebones, since you won't have to pay for an OS at all), and with XBMC Live, it works almost like an appliance.
 
That is the sexy! Kind of makes the one I got in January look ugly. I hope this means that they will update their MacPro line soon with a new external design.

So nice to see prominent NON iOS / iDevice news for a change.
 
3 monitors?

Has this been asked: Can it now do 3 monitors?

That would make it the only (other thank $5k pro) that can.
 
Uhm.. That's just arrogant.
That would suppose that I think I am somehow superior to him, which is not the case. I just think it is more safe to think that a big company fixed their prices right.
In fact it is much more arrogant to come and say that Apple did their prices wrong, when you are just an individual with your subjective view of the product and no interest whatsoever in profits etc.
Seeing this amount of non-US people complaining about the price is a pretty obvious sign they did something wrong.
What amount? A few people on a forum? Don't get me wrong, but MR is hardly representative of what happens out there.
Also, the fact that someone is complaining doesn't mean the price isn't right. Like someone said already will see in a few months how this thing sells. Or not - depends if we have the numbers.
 
Please remember that some people were just in the market for a cheap mac. While the small form factor may be a great feature for some .. for others - arguably the majorit - it is not much of a feature, aka doesn't justify the higher pricepoint.
It is not like there is a comparable mac computer with similar specs, yet bigger formfactor for less money .. the mini was the only choice available and that got pretty much cut.

Amen.

If you love OS X, and just want a fast and affordable desktop computer to run it on, it's either a mini or an iMac. I don't like iMacs because of the glossy screens, which leaves only the mini. If the price increase is due to the size decrease, I don't see the point. We're not comparing the new mini to an oversized PC tower — we're comparing it to the previous mini. I own three minis currently — two sit on desks and one sits in a fairly compact entertainment unit — I've not once thought, 'Gosh, imagine what I could do with the extra space if Apple shaved another few centimetres off this thing.'

Really, was ANYONE hoping for a smaller mini??
 
The thing is, this may be expensive, but where are you going to get something of the same build quality that runs Mac OS?
You could get a crappy compact that runs Windows for maybe ~450/500 pounds.
But it won't look as good and it won't run OS X

Umm...the old Mac mini, which started at $100 less? :D
 
I find Linux-powered devices more attractive (especially barebones, since you won't have to pay for an OS at all), and with XBMC Live, it works almost like an appliance.
That would probably be what I will end up with, I'm just tired of hours of hacking and tweaking (eventually, I always get it working the way I want, it's just utter time consuming :p).

I'm very happy with using my Macbook Pro to play video, but want a more permanent solution.. but not for that price...
 
Refurb?

There's no Mac Minis in the UK refurb store just now but I did manage to find on Google a previous refurb Mac Mini Server...

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/FC408B/A

£689.

Yes, a refurb old server model is £1 less than a new non-server model and £240 less than a new server with integrated "total failure" power supply.
 
I could have also used the early iMac G5 power supply problems, numerous PowerMac PSU failures, Airport Express power supplies going pop in less than two years (blown two personally), Airport Base Station PSUs, G4 era Cinema display PSUs...

Yeah right... tens of thousands of failures, Apple had to recall huge numbers, it was all over the press. Oh wait .. I just made that up.

Apple is not the centre of the electronics universe. All kinds of devices have had integrated PSUs for eons. My shaver for instance, my TV, my LCD, my kettle, my landline phone, my stereo, my vacuum cleaner, my iron, well just about everything excluding my laptop. So given the ubiquity of them, insinuating that integrated PSUs would lead to exceptional failure rates is just ... silly.
 
I am not sure they were aiming at the cheaper PC market with the Mac mini.
That's how the Mini was born. An inexpensive headless Mac you could put on top of your desktop PC and plug in your existing screen/keyboard/mouse. It was marketed as such.

The next time around they jacked up the price a bit. Now it was no longer the "cheap entry-level Mac" angle, it was the "green" angle. The Mini was marketed as the computer equivalent of a Toyota Prius, and Apple believed treehuggers would be willing to pay a premium.

This time the angle appears to be form factor premium and not much else.
 
it says ships in 30 days on Apples website. i wonder if you can get this new one in the Apple Store yet, or will it be 30 days for that also.
 
It sounds plausible for me, the higher price. My guess is that the Imac will be updated very shortly for, quess what, a higher price. And thus making the new mini still the cheapest mac you can get.
 
They used to. The first gen low-end model was sold for $499.
What I am interested in is did Apple made such a statement? The fact that it is cheaper doesn't necessarily mean they target the "cheaper market". I t would be interesting to know how Apple sees it. that's all.
 
They used to. The first gen low-end model was sold for $499.

So as low end PCs get less expensive, low end macs get more expensive.

For the price of a mini you can get a fairly powerful desktop.

Excited about HDMI? Didn't this replace dual link DVI that could drive 2560x1600 resolution displays, that HDMI can't.

Seriously uninterested. I wouldn't mind giving OSX a whirl, but there has never been a Mac that interested me and it doesn't seem to be any sign of that changing.
 
That's how the Mini was born. An inexpensive headless Mac you could put on top of your desktop PC and plug in your existing screen/keyboard/mouse. It was marketed as such.
Ah, that's what I want to know. They really marketed it as such?
 
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