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Look, everyone screaming about it being overpriced compared to a "Comparatively specced Dell" is just spouting BS. Dell right now ships 1 SFF PC and it is way more expensive than this mini. Always has been. It still has Intel integrated graphics, it still uses older DDR2 RAM and the base model has a Pentium Dual Core, not even a Core 2 Duo of all things.

The Mac Mini is overpriced only if you don't consider the form factor as being a feature.

That is the important point here. People comparing this to full sized desktops are plainly wrong.

Do you really want to bring Apple's current full sized desktop in to the conversation? Apple doesn't offer a "low end" full size desktop, so the only option for many of us is the mini. Personally, I don't care what size it is. You know what - let me take that back. I'd prefer if it was bigger.
 
Exactly what are you on about? What exactly do I have to get used to? My HTPC already has Blu Ray, plus multiple TB of internal storage and is much more powerful than anything Mac short of the Pro and cost closer to the mini in price.

All that lack of Blu Ray is, is one more reason to never buy a Mac. Hardly something to cheer about if you are a Mac fan and hardly a point down to PC buyers that actually have a choice.

It puts the Mini back in the position of merely being a Laptop without a screen... or a battery... or a keyboard ... or a pointing device.. A whole lot missing for a high price.

Putting Blu-ray in Macs would only bring the price up and nobody wants that. Blu-rays are useless. Only fools would buy them anymore. All physical media is dying fast.

Buy your own Blu-Ray players, why is that so hard? But soon they won´t even sell those.

So no need to ruin perfectly good Macs with technology that´s going out very very soon.



p.s. SSD and i5 is what we need in there.
 
Dismal fail. I'm absolutely shocked that there are actually people who voted positive on this one.

The problems with this machine were that it was underpowered and too expensive. It was already smaller than it needed to be. So what does apple do? They "fix" the one thing that wasn't broken, keep lousy specs, and raise the price? Could the company be any more tone deaf to what consumers want when it comes to this model?

Seriously, they went to the trouble of a redesign and put all the effort into size, still at the expense of performance and high cost? I'd almost say apple went out of their way to try and get people to NOT buy this model and go with an iMac instead, but then they wouldn't have bothered to redesign. Just amazing how clueless the company is when it comes to desktops.
He's not. He is shopping for an affordable Mac.

Bingo. But unfortunately one doesn't exist, which is a shame since Apple could build a great mac if they didn't have the size fetish and used desktop parts at a decent price and still make their typical profit margin. And oh, sell a TON of them.

Seriously, does anyone think that if they went bigger (desktop parts) and either doubled performance (quad i7) or halved the price (or did both, two models), they wouldn't send sales through the roof? I just don't see who's going to buy this? In this economy, people with more money than brains are in much shorter supply.
 
Putting Blu-ray in Macs would only bring the price up and nobody wants that. Blu-rays are useless. Only fools would buy them anymore. All physical media is dying fast.

Buy your own Blu-Ray players, why is that so hard? But soon they won´t even sell those.

So no need to ruin perfectly good Macs with technology that´s going out very very soon.


I see. Well before "soon" happens (another decade or so) I will keep enjoying Blu Rays thank you very much.
 
I see. Well before "soon" happens (another decade or so) I will keep enjoying Blu Rays thank you very much.

His point was just to go buy one.

I saw a nice Sony one (last year's model) new old-stock-close-out at Target for $75.... :eek:

I guess they're clearing them out for the 3D capable ones...

So, why drive the price of a Mini $150 for a BR drive?

Anyone know if they're at the stores? Want to go see one today...
 
agreed, I think the concept behind the mac mini was great, such a lovely little thing, just a bit over priced if you ask me, always thought this would convert PC users over to mac, utilising there existing screens, but never really did, did it ?

It did when it was $499.
 
I almost finally went the Mac Mini Media Center route for my TV and replaced my Apple TV, but I just tried out FrontRow and on my Macbook Pro to see how sharing my iTunes Library would be, and it really sucks. It is so far behind. Guess I am just going to hold out for the next version of the Apple TV.
 
Putting Blu-ray in Macs would only bring the price up and nobody wants that. Blu-rays are useless. Only fools would buy them anymore. All physical media is dying fast.

Buy your own Blu-Ray players, why is that so hard? But soon they won´t even sell those.

So no need to ruin perfectly good Macs with technology that´s going out very very soon.



p.s. SSD and i5 is what we need in there.
We agree on the i5, and I'd like a SSD too (user upgradable would be nice). If it had blu-ray, it could just about be my one stop shop for home entertainment. Music, movies (both rentals and blu-rays), pics, youtube, etc. That would be cool...
 
I'm not sure I really care about a Blu Ray drive for a Mac Mini to be used as a media center PC, when I've already got one sitting in my set up anyway. What's the point? Why would I need another one?

My current media PC doesn't have one either, and I can't say I've missed it, since I can play Blu Rays just fine on the Blu Ray player (a PS3, actually).

Are we going to complain because it doesn't have a built-in receiver and a subwoofer built-in too?
 
I do love my 13" macbook pro but now I'm contemplating on buying this mac mini as my htpc as I'm getting tired of connecting and disconnecting my macbook pro from my hdtv. But then again, I do agree with most people here that the price is pretty high for an htpc.

You could get a docking station from Henge Docks to make it much easier to connect/disconnect your macbook pro from the HDTV. http://www.hengedocks.com/
 
His point was just to go buy one.

No, read his post. His point was that Blu Ray is soon dead and only fools buy them. Pretty clear.

My counterpoint is: Sure, but soon is measured in 10+ years.

As noted previous I already have an HTPC with Blu Ray. Not allowing choice is Apples loss. Not something to chortle gleefully about as in this borderline insane post:

Hahahah! I laugh at your face Blu-ray whiners! You´re so out of touch! It´s never coming to Mac! And it´s fading away elsewhere also. Better get used to the idea.

Well I guess he told you mac owners... :rolleyes:

I check once and a while on the mini as the only Mac I might consider if it grew a bit in the right direction, instead it gets more expensive and smaller and more useless to me. Macs are just completely dead to me now.
 
For the lulz :D
 

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hardcore photographers. and i very much doubt they'd be using a mac mini ;)

still, its handy to have :p

Oh I dunno. At least the last time I tried it, if you import your pictures into a Mac via card reader, it screws up the photo's creation date (which then doesn't display correctly in something like the Apple TV photo display mode) and doesn't create a proper icon for say Tiger. If you use Image Capture with USB, this problem does not occur. Sure, I'd blame Apple for a screwed up issue in their OS, but I simply stopped using the reader for this reason. Besides, not all cameras use SD cards. Many professional ones do NOT use them so I don't know about this "hardcore photographer" bit to begin with. They would be better off with a mobile type expansion slot and then you could get any kind of reader you might need or even something else potentially useful like an eSata card.

But then I said the same thing about the 15" MBP. The SD reader is a 100% DOWNGRADE on it, but then so was glossy screens and the removal of the extra Firewire (FW400) port. I don't see Apple's hardware lineups as being terribly positive. They're obsessed with cases instead of features and the prices just keep going up to the point where we are clearly heading back to the days of Apple = Luxury Yuppie Toy instead of serious contender to Windows. This is why I say even if you want real Apple equipment, we'd be better off if there were hardware competitors for the Mac operating system since Apple would NEVER get away with this crap if you could buy a much more powerful and capable machine for several hundred dollars less. People keep assuming that what Apple puts out is fine, but when there's no other choice for hardware, you either buy the crap they're selling or leave OSX behind (or build your own Hackintosh).
 
Oh I dunno. At least the last time I tried it, if you import your pictures into a Mac via card reader, it screws up the photo's creation date (which then doesn't display correctly in something like the Apple TV photo display mode) and doesn't create a proper icon for say Tiger. If you use Image Capture with USB, this problem does not occur. Sure, I'd blame Apple for a screwed up issue in their OS, but I simply stopped using the reader for this reason.

That's probably because your camera didn't record the date in the exif data properly. The file's metadata shouldn't matter as much as the exif.
 
It didn't; they still all bought iMacs.

I don't claim to have a typical household, but the $499 mac mini did convert this household of self-built PCs to an all mac household. We bought two. We literally threw out all our PCs the same day, and never looked back. We had a couple Apple products before, but the mini is what truly converted us. That was entirely a result of better parental controls on macs and the affordable mini making it possible in our budget.

I'd like to get the new mini as a HTPC, but the price doesn't work for me. I'm not complaining. I just won't buy one.
 
Putting Blu-ray in Macs would only bring the price up and nobody wants that. Blu-rays are useless. Only fools would buy them anymore. All physical media is dying fast.

Buy your own Blu-Ray players, why is that so hard? But soon they won´t even sell those.

So no need to ruin perfectly good Macs with technology that´s going out very very soon.

Yes, well, tell that to Netflix; I keep ordering and they keep sending me Blu-ray movies, which look wonderful on my TV. But I'll be on the lookout for that notice that Blu-ray discs are obsolete and they won't be sending them anymore.

Look, I'm a huge Mac fan, own an iMac and iPhone, but this Mac Mini is underspecced and artificially overpriced. They could easily include a larger HD and Blu-ray for the same price, I can only imagine what their profit margin must be; a Dell Zinio does it for $100 less, including an upgraded graphics card.

Of course, it depends what you want the computer for, but it strikes me as a poor choice for an HTPC compared to what is available.
 
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