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Ugh, I didn't even notice that. What a horrible move -- they make you choose between dual core and good graphics, or quad core and poor graphics.

Exactly why I haven't purchased one of the new Minis yet. Would have been out quite a bit of cash (Mini with the 2.0Ghz i7 Quad Core, 6630m GPU, Magic Trackpad and Superdrive, plus 8GB ram and SSD from non-Apple source) but instead I get to just live with my old Mini and dream of a mid-tower hackintosh since Apple doesn't seem to care about providing a product to fit the market gap between a Mini and a Pro that doesn't come attached to a mirror.
 
Blindsided? That is a little much if you ask me

There are many reasons to put off an OS update. Not least of which Lion completely blindsided the enterprise. The documentation for a number of changes simply is not there. The new password hashing comes to mind (really apple .playlist files!?).
Isn't that why Apple has a development program? That is to get early access to next gen operating system technologies.
If Apple did things right, 10.6.8 can take advantage of the new Mini just as well as 10.7 (sans any under the hood improvements).
No I don't buy this. Apple can't be looking to the past all the time. New generations of hardware should not be forced to support old OS technology.

If "enterprise" isn't ready for the new hardware then don't buy it. It makes about as much sense as saying that iPad should have supported iPhone OS 2.0.
 
Isn't that why Apple has a development program? That is to get early access to next gen operating system technologies.

Development does not equal System Engineering/Deployment. Early access means squat if you have to spend most of your time figuring out what the hell Apple has changed, why they changed and how to work around it in time for release.


No I don't buy this. Apple can't be looking to the past all the time. New generations of hardware should not be forced to support old OS technology.

If Apple wants a real foot in the enterprise they will either: 1. Improve visibility and/or 2. Improve documentation for enterprise deployment

If "enterprise" isn't ready for the new hardware then don't buy it. It makes about as much sense as saying that iPad should have supported iPhone OS 2.0.

Hard to do when you are buying HUNDREDS of computers. Even more difficult when no one at Apple can give you a straight answer as to what OS new hardware will support or even when new hardware is coming out. You try playing this game at these quantities. I guess I should just stop buying effectively halting my company's growth?

The iPad is an entirely different situation as it is tightly controlled. You don't have to worrying about Active Directory, file shares, etc.

Typical consumer mindset. I am supporting a business with thousands of Macs, not the single Mac Mini in your home office.
 
The Macbook Pro with the 2.7GHz dual core i7 has a geekbench score of 6867. I'd say that was significantly slower than 9573, will be interesting to see the score of the mini with that chip.

Interestingly, the Macbook Pro with the 2.0Ghz quad core i7 has a geekbench score of 8786 vs the server mini's score of 9573.

You're mixing up 32bit and 64bit results. The mac mini results are 64bit results.

The 2.7Ghz MBP i7 in 64 bit mode scores ~7600.
The 2.0Ghz MBP i7 in 64bit scores about the same as the Quad core mac mini server (as expected)
 
So without an optical drive, how do you boot camp?

Kimbie

I'd say external drive. unless you're talking about the Apple drivers I hadn't thought of that until now.. maybe the new bootcamp puts the drivers on a windows accessible partition ?
 
If you want a Mac Mini with a screen and all specs the same as an iMac, it's a lot more expensive. Not a good deal unless you USE that flexibility.

Unless of course you don't want to stare at your reflection in the "mirror" that is an imac screen.
 
how long generally?

So the i7 is faster than my 09 MP! Oh how shameful ;)

I can't wait for these to hit the refurb market + thunderbolt external drives for a blazing fast home server.

Probably an arbitrary question, but how long generally do refurbs take to hit the Mac sale page?
 
Probably an arbitrary question, but how long generally do refurbs take to hit the Mac sale page?

I know MBP hit around 2-3 months after they start shipping but they also have a much higher volume (and return which get put into the refurb program) but I'm not sure how long it takes for mini's to pop up.
 
But at least in the BTO options, you can configure the model with discrete GPU with a 2.7GHz dual core Core i7 for an extra $100. Probably not too much slower than the server model CPU-wise.

It actually makes sense to me that the server does not have discrete graphics--have you ever seen a PC/Unix/Linux server with a gaming graphics card? It's meant to be a server only, and I even remember Apple recommending (the old Mac mini server) not be used as a client machine.

Though I wonder if the discrete graphics takes up the space freed up by the lack of the Superdrive. And that it doesn't fit in the server because of the 2 hard drives. Hopefully someone (iFixit?) will post a breakdown soon.

well the video card does free up system ram for OS uses and most server use on board PCI based low end video cards.
 
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Lion does not support Word/Excel for Mac? Right?

depends on the year, i heard 04 wont work but come on if you havent upgraded since 2004...
 
Exactly why I haven't purchased one of the new Minis yet. Would have been out quite a bit of cash (Mini with the 2.0Ghz i7 Quad Core, 6630m GPU, Magic Trackpad and Superdrive, plus 8GB ram and SSD from non-Apple source) but instead I get to just live with my old Mini and dream of a mid-tower hackintosh since Apple doesn't seem to care about providing a product to fit the market gap between a Mini and a Pro that doesn't come attached to a mirror.

It probably won't be long before you have discrete graphic cards that can be installed through TB. That would be a nice add-on to the server quad edition.
 
Man, they came so close this time. An optical drive (as in HTPC) and a 500MB or 1GB graphics card would have really made the mini a perfect HTPC.
 
Add an ODD to your Mac mini (Mid 2011)

I was just looking closely at the iFixit teardown of the new mini, and I'm pretty sure that if you have a mid 2010 mini (or pick up a hosed one on ebay for cheap) you can just reuse the ODD, outer housing with optical drive slot, optical drive carrier, and optical drive flex cable with the innards of a mid 2011 model. You will, of course, not be able to have a second HDD in such a configuration, and it may overheat like a bastard, but what the hey.

While you're at it, why not upgrade the ODD to a slim slot-loading Blu-ray burner for the ultimate HTPC.
 
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