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That's impressive. Probably one of the main reasons we will upgrade!

Not really. Buy a new Mac Pro = not very much use of resources to build. Keep on using an old Mac Pro = no use of resources to build at all.

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Why are we pretending less aluminum is a good thing?

Aluminum > Plastic

Making aluminimum takes tons of electric power.
 
"82% less volume"

"62% less energy"

What an awful, awful way to handle these figures.

"Only 18% of the volume...", "Energy usage at 38%...", these are more acceptable writing, far more clear and impactful to the reader, and earn more for pay-per-word writers.

Reminds me of their product videos when someone says the iPhone is "only xx mm thin". If they're going to use the term thin, then lose the modifier "only".
 
Making aluminimum takes tons of electric power.

Indeed. That's why I'm glad Apple has been investing for years on ways to reduce the energy needed to manufacture it. That said, there is far more work to do, but it is encouraging that Apple uses high quality aluminum that can be recycled more easily than some of the lower quality variants.
 
Aluminum metal is extremely energy intensive to produce from ore (bauxite). It is also easy and energy effective to recycle and re-alloy. Thus it has value as scrap.

It is better to make something out of aluminum and have a better than 80% chance it will be recycled than to make it out of ABS plastic.
 
Its good that it doesn't suck up energy. The new processors a very efficient. But, am wondering if its maxed out for a long period of time if it will down clock the processor due to a small PSU. If someone has one, do a long render job and have cpu-z running to see if it does.
 
Reminds me of their product videos when someone says the iPhone is "only xx mm thin". If they're going to use the term thin, then lose the modifier "only".

Omg ikr, " the new macbook is only x.x thin" .... It's THICK ... Stop saying thin to use a buzz word, being all psychological to get in our heads.

Rather you say how it is the thinnest macbook to date, measureing just x.x inches ".

Damn you Phil and your " Black Knight " films. You lost so much credibility with me on that one. No Batman fan would screw that up. Even if those films are the loosest interpretation of the source material.
 
People actually read their power bills? I don't think Ive even read my total monthly bill for about 10 years now. I know during the summer its like 650ish?

And of course it uses less material, its 1/4th the side of the old one, and doesn't have to worry about powering HDDs and lots of fans.

Tho the HDD thing kinda goes to crap once you start plugging in all the external drives.
 
I'm quite surprised the industry isn't making more of a fuss about the new Mac Pro. It really is quite incredible what Apple have managed to do here.

Soon, I will feel the old man telling children, "in my day, powerful computers used to occupy a lot of your desk and be noisy and power consuming."
 
OK, just being snarky, but that pie chart looks as if its hiding something under its sumptuous wood veneer.

  • Plastics
  • Copper
  • Aluminium & steel
  • Power Supply
  • Circuit boards

Now children - two of those things are not the same sort of things as the other three things - can you see what they are?


So does 'Power Supply' represent the mass of pure powersupplyium* left after you've removed all the copper, plastics, steel and aluminium from the PSU and added those to the other figures? Likewise is 'circuit board' the bare board** with all the copper, components, sockets etc. scraped off? If so what are the components soldered on with - good intentions?


*Powersupplyium is well known to cause horn rot in unicorns.

** If carelessly disposed of, pure circuitonium*** reacts with powersupplyium to form circuitonium powersupplide, which dissolves rainbows.

*** Ok, probably glass reinforced plastic in reality.
 
Believe me, I love my nMP, but to say it's so much more energy efficient, etc. is sort of not true. If I add up all of the power consumption and materials of all of the external enclosures I've had to add to it in order to use it the same way I was able to use my old Mac Pro, I doubt there's much of a difference in power and probably much more plastic and other materials involved now.
 
Impressive energy numbers if this translates to real-world use.

But is aluminum evil now?
 
Other than the small chorus of (vocal) nay-sayers, I'm hearing and reading a lot of positive things about the nMP. And this environmental status report is another nice reminder of the kind of thinking and design philosophy, with attention to even the smallest details, that has --unsurprisingly-- gone into this product.

I'm expecting this positive vibe to continue when the real pros are starting to use this unassuming little 'beast' for large scale production.
 
Reminds me of their product videos when someone says the iPhone is "only xx mm thin". If they're going to use the term thin, then lose the modifier "only".

Apple and other companies use the word "only" in conjunction with "thin" in order to, in a way, compare the latest product with previous products as well as with the products of other companies without ever having to mention brands or models i.e. "(in comparison to all the other phones out there) the new iPhone is ONLY x.x mm thick making it the thinnest phone ever made."
 
Any reduction in our carbon footprint by way of less production resources, and natural resources is a good thing.

Apple should be proud of this feat.

Why? External HDD chassis use more power, more aluminium and more plastic than a conventional Mac Pro design.

If anything, apple have forced people to use external expansion which is ultimately going to be much worse for the environment in terms of carbon footprint and natural resource use.
 
Believe me, I love my nMP, but to say it's so much more energy efficient, etc. is sort of not true. If I add up all of the power consumption and materials of all of the external enclosures I've had to add to it in order to use it the same way I was able to use my old Mac Pro, I doubt there's much of a difference in power and probably much more plastic and other materials involved now.

That's true but hopefully Apple's actions will provide incentive for other manufacturers to continue to push toward reducing "excess" in their products.
 
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(in all seriousness, this is a great thing, it all adds up)
 
Apple and other companies use the word "only" in conjunction with "thin" in order to, in a way, compare the latest product with previous products as well as with the products of other companies without ever having to mention brands or models i.e. "(in comparison to all the other phones out there) the new iPhone is ONLY x.x mm thick making it the thinnest phone ever made."

Yeah but the way you worded it makes sense. In the iPad Air video Jony Ive says "iPad Air is only 7.2mm thin". I'm sorry but that's wrong (even if I get what he means).
 
....until you add on all the spaghetti attachments and Thunderbolt drives and USB 3 hubs and the 3-4 oversized monitors -- and then suddenly your nice little cylinder (ohhh so cute!) is an octopus gone amuck. And the energy each of these plug-in devices will require (especially the multiple monitors) will wipe out any gains you think you may have achieved just by buying the cylinder. Because as we all know with Apple products, you JUST don't buy the cylinder.
 
So, its energy efficient ..... Apple's known for this anyway with their wind mil stuff their doing.

It only make sense this would come to the desktop...

Now, make this happen in laptops by this huge factor.
 
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