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Seems to be to early.

Maybe Intel is giving Apple early access, in hopes of securing future business from them. What if Intel is really trying to become the fabricator of the Apple ARM chips.
 
WANT!

Heck, I'll be content with a 6-core Sandy Bridge Xeon. I would lose 2 cores but gain much in speed. But true 16-core (not just hyperthreading) sounds awesome.
 
FCPX is going to kill it for Apple in the proApps. so why get a 12 or 16 core if FCP 7 will not use the power!!! I love Apple Please Fix FCPX

Because for the professional there are many, many non Apple applications out there that will run very nicely on these machines. Maya, Mudbox, ZBrush, Houdini, Cinema 4D, Nuke.. to name but a few.
 
I don't know much about cores. I'm curious - what percent of the general computer population would would be helped by 16 cores? What apps/processes need 16 cores?
 
I think this makes perfect sense. Aim the "Mac Pro" at the *HIGH* end "Pro" market with the Xeon E7-series processors. They have a line of dual-socket E7s that go up to 10 cores. (Of course, they cost $4000 each CPU... Even the single dual-socket-compatible six-core E7 starts at $775 per CPU.) But 20 cores at 2.4 GHz would absolutely blow away the previous Mac Pro. (At a not-insignificant $10,000 for a complete system, though...)


I don't know much about cores. I'm curious - what percent of the general computer population would would be helped by 16 cores? What apps/processes need 16 cores?

Not much, hence the "Pro".
 
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Why oh why oh why are we not getting 16 core processors in the new macbook airs? This is just typical disgusting corner cutting by Apple yet again!!!
 
I don't know much about cores. I'm curious - what percent of the general computer population would would be helped by 16 cores? What apps/processes need 16 cores?

the general population is geared towards the imac ,which is perfect. MPros are good for them as well, but in terms of harnessing the power, I use:

Photoshop
Aperture
Scanning software
FCP 7 (although there are issues with its own software being able to fully utilize the MP power)
DVDSP (can help with processing builds faster and importing files)
Bitvice (for creating m2v files for DVDs) - this software uses all cores without being asked so the more ='s a faster processing time, which means I finish projects faster, which is a better turnaround time to clients.
Probably some other apps in there, but it gives you an idea. It's like having a V8 truck....you could use one for the heck of it, but those that really buy them for work haul horses, equipment etc...
 
the general population is geared towards the imac ,which is perfect. MPros are good for them as well, but in terms of harnessing the power, I use:

Photoshop
Aperture
Scanning software
FCP 7 (although there are issues with its own software being able to fully utilize the MP power)
DVDSP (can help with processing builds faster and importing files)
Bitvice (for creating m2v files for DVDs) - this software uses all cores without being asked so the more ='s a faster processing time, which means I finish projects faster, which is a better turnaround time to clients.
Probably some other apps in there, but it gives you an idea. It's like having a V8 truck....you could use one for the heck of it, but those that really buy them for work haul horses, equipment etc...

Thanks. That was very helpful.
 
I highly doubt i7 will be an option, though it would be great. Apple seems to have moved away from what I might refer to as mid-range options in the Mac Pro line. Before the iMac was as powerful, it was nice to get a PowerMac for $1,500. I think Apple wants to prevent the MacPro being an iMac replacement and instead have clear demarcation in speed.

So will these new Xeon processors be faster than the i7's etc? I would really like a MacPro over an iMac. Dont know why Apple dont offer a decent entry level MP with a beefy BTO of an up to date graphics card. Need a new gaming PC ready for BF3 but dont want a sole gaming set up to do it. The MacPro would fit perfectly in storing all my media films etc and acting as a future proof home server with massive storage options.
 
Funny...with an SSD, new graphics card, and Lion I finally feel like my 2006 Mac Pro's processors are finally being used to their full potential.

People are so focused on the numbers they never noticed that these XEON chips often worked at half power because everything else couldn't keep up or take advantage of them.

The first-generation Mac Pro is going to be one of the longest-lasting machines I've ever owned. I'm 5 years in and I just now feel like it's working at its full potential. It'll be a few more years before I try and replace it.
 
A 16 core MP would quickly put an end to any bragging rights current iMac owners have about having the speediest Macs.

My 2008 MP is getting a little long in the tooth and in February the AppleCare ran out. I already purchased a new 2011 MBP for my business this year and have been tossing around the idea of getting a Cintiq 21UX as well. Depending on pricing, a new MP looks like a good 2012 business expense to me.
 
I am pretty sure the AMD Bulldozer Server processors should be out by then.
:eek:
 
For the Mac Pro, I think I would be surprised if all the models were shipping immediately. So, yeah August announcement, shipment 4-6 weeks after and maybe longer on the highest end models.
Apple is a very large customer. Also, I suspect it would be a while before ARM could displace Intel processors in any quantity that would annoy Intel.

Well, I partly rationalize Intel giving Apple sweetheart deals in 2 ways 1) Apple must pay a premium per chip compared to what other OEM/ODMs do and 2) Intel wants to go on their good side and get some Atom and mobile class application processors in Apple products. They realize it's one of the best ins to the smartphone/tablet space.
 
2006 Mac Pro

Funny...with an SSD, new graphics card, and Lion I finally feel like my 2006 Mac Pro's processors are finally being used to their full potential.

People are so focused on the numbers they never noticed that these XEON chips often worked at half power because everything else couldn't keep up or take advantage of them.

The first-generation Mac Pro is going to be one of the longest-lasting machines I've ever owned. I'm 5 years in and I just now feel like it's working at its full potential. It'll be a few more years before I try and replace it.

I've been using 2 ATI 3870 video cards in mine. I'm not sure what else I could put in. Which video card do you have in yours? I've been using WD 10,000 rpm hard drives as my start up drives. I've been looking at an SSD.

Mine seems to be doing the job as well or better now than it did back in 2006.
 
Funny...with an SSD, new graphics card, and Lion I finally feel like my 2006 Mac Pro's processors are finally being used to their full potential.

The first-generation Mac Pro is going to be one of the longest-lasting machines I've ever owned. I'm 5 years in and I just now feel like it's working at its full potential. It'll be a few more years before I try and replace it.

Interesting, would like to hear more. I still use my 2006 MacPro as my main desktop. What graphics card/SSD did you go with?
 
Please have a bto for an i7.
And don't charge an absurd $2,500 for a base model
with 3GB, 5,400rpm and a junk GPU. It's insulting. :mad:
Thanks.

Why would you want an i7 Mac Pro? The reason these cost $2500 is because of the processors, not the GPU. There's nothing insulting about it.
 
Looks nice to me..just might be my first Mac Pro. I've wanted a PowerMac for years but never bought one.
 
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The image is a fake. You can query anything in the Apple Service Source and have it show up on the page. Look, Apple is coming out with a SuperMac Pro Widget!
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Plus, the Service Source documentation is usually the LAST place that gets updated when a product is released.

Agreed on both points. It is simple to make the Service Source page display whatever you want.

Also, the manuals are often weeks after the product is released. Latest iMac manuals were only available a week or two ago.
 
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