You don’t understand it, do you? There is not enough space to add a better camera given how paper thin is the chassis for th e display on the MacBooks. Compare it to the iPad and iPhone thickness and see why it’s much better in those devices.
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New MacBook Air and MacBook Pro Still Have 720p Camera, But Apple Promises Better Quality From M1
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Omg. Why don’t you see that 1080p camera requires a thicker display on the MacBooks? Everything nowadays is a conspiracy theory. The MacBook displays are ridiculously thin! And that’s why we have a physical limitation on the camera.
I understand it - but surely some improvements could be made apart from software - its been like this for 5+ years. If you look inside an iPad or iPhones FaceTime camera, it is deeper than the chassis but not by a lot. I’m not saying it should be 4k, but less grainy less grainy and perhaps 1080p would be nice.
Anyone knows or can guess whether the “M1 camera improvements” will be available in ALL video apps, or just in the ones Apple writes (i.e. FaceTime)? I wouldn’t be surprised if Hangouts/Teams/Zoom look just as ****** with the new Air as with the old one.
Lol, so you actually don’t believe camera technology has improved the last +5 years? No one is expecting an 8K camera, but it would be nice with something where I wasn’t more pixelated than a 90s Nintendo character under low light.
I'm not being brain washed by anything. MacBook webcams have been the worst webcams I've ever used in the last decade. I'm on a new MacBook Pro and it still looks like trash. It couldn't look any worse than it already does. The point being made is they badly need to change it, whatever that takes. I'd rather they just remove it entirely and include a free attachable webcam or something because it's unusably bad. Also, you're making it sound like you're convinced that Apple is incapable of including a better webcam. Give me a break.
It reminds me of 90s internet webcams.
adding a better sensor and lens would make the display much thicker/add weight. most customers wouldn't like the added bulk just for a better camera. that's why Apple hasn't improved the camera because it's physically impossible to do it without compromises.
look at the thickness of the display. any improvement to the camera would mean a thicker display or at least a camera protruding out from behind the display.
go ahead, show me a laptop that has a camera in the same position with the same thickness of the display that has a much better camera.
and just because it's 1080p doesn't automatically make it better than a 720p camera.
I think everyone would like a better camera on their 1000+ dollar laptop.
You're stuck on resolution. Replace "720p camera" with "dumpster fire" ... it's not so much the resolution at it is the fact that it looks like a grainy sandstorm, even in good lighting.
Not if it compromises the weight or the thickness. Nope.
You're ignoring the design of the laptop. Not everyone would give up weight or the thickness for a better camera.
Given the thinness of the display, the camera is good enough and cannot be made much better without a display redesign.
No the camera is not good enough and it hasn't been for a decade. Do you have eyes?
Do you have eyes? Apparently you skipped over what I said. I'll say it one last time: The camera is good enough given the design.
Show me a laptop with the same display thickness that has a substantially better camera (speaking of image quality, not tech specs) in the same camera position. I bet you that you can't find a single one.
Study of basic physics, however, is.
Your comment is incredibly stupid. I suspect you're trolling now, so I'm going to end it here. See ya.
Agree, not a deal for me/us. Looking forward to upgrading our 2013 Airs so it’ll be a big step up. Not power users but do plenty of the usual stuff, including photo/video editing, garage band, video viewing, etc. Confident enough about the performance that we picked up a couple with the base config/no memory bump.
Ahhhh so they are comparing the new M1 to an i3, no wonder they touted all those crazy performance numbers. In real world usage I doubt the M1 will be much (if any) of an improvement over an intel based Mac on anything other than Appples own heavily optimised apps.
All aboard the hype train... Chooo choooo.
When a beefy Apple Silicon comes along with a modern webcam and gets put into a 16" wake me up.
I made the mistake of buying my MacBook Pro 13” without the Touchbar back in 2017, and completely forgot it only came with 2 TB3 ports...it still haunts me. Never again will I buy a MacBoon Pro with 2 TB ports.
You described the exact point, most of the time a laptop is meant to be undocked. I haven't got experience with a 2016+ MB but I imagine it would be quite difficult on the 2 port models hence I've only ever been interested in 4 port models. It's definitely an artificial limitation (yes not due to space) but to get people to get the more expensive model. Yet no Apple SoC model was announced with 4 ports... proving the Intel model to be much superior