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New MacBook Air Possible as Early as Next Week

Damian83 said:
again... same results u can get with almost any nvme around.
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So, your goalpost has shifted from "Macs don't get that performance" to "well, anyone can get that performance"?

Your original assertion was that "while 1tb can be bought for 100€." As has been stated, that SSD will be a lot slower than the ones Apple uses. Does Apple charge a lot? Yes. Is Apple's product comparable to a 100€ option? No.
 
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ok i give up. i can't stand against an army of faithful adepts. Apple does well to charge such prices considering there are people like you that will justify it at any cost. We deserve this threatment. Now pray all togheter our blessed Tim Cook to find a cure against Covid-19
 
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Given all the negative press over the coronavirus, it'd be cool if Apple repeats last year and drops a new product every day next week.
 
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Abombito said:
It seems unlikely they would release new products right now, even if they're ready, due to the fact so many places are shut down because of the virus. It would be bad PR and probably lead to lower sales since people wouldn't want to buy in store (or can't because they're closed).

That being said I do want a new Macbook Pro (hoping for 14") and I'd be getting it shipped so I'm fine if they do announce them. 😁
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Announcing new devices doesn't have to be done the same day of release. Its not beyond the realm of possibility they announce new devices to be available, say, mid-April.

That alone might give both AAPL and users a happy feel good kick just when it's needed.
 
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Abombito said:
It seems unlikely they would release new products right now, even if they're ready, due to the fact so many places are shut down because of the virus. It would be bad PR and probably lead to lower sales since people wouldn't want to buy in store (or can't because they're closed).

That being said I do want a new Macbook Pro (hoping for 14") and I'd be getting it shipped so I'm fine if they do announce them. 😁
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Aren’t Apple stores closed globally? People can still order online.
 
I noticed this morning that the NZ online store has the Macbook Air with 4-6 day shipping time. All other Macs (except Mac Pro) have 1 day shipping time. Could point to new Macbook Airs this week?
 
I don't see the current pandemic impacting Apple much if they want to release some new laptops. They can announce them in the press and I'd suggest most day one purchases would be by people wanting them shipped and/or BTO configs which are going to take a couple of weeks to ship anyway.

The numbers involved in laptops are so much lower than with iPhones that even the supply chain issues shouldn't be much of a barrier assuming these have been planned for a while.

Is there much performance difference between the Air and the base 13" MacBook Pros these days?
 
PostApple2016BrainWash said:
Beyond that, the new update for MBA is pointless if it does not use intel i5 comet-lake Y that can be found on most ultrabook.
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Comet Lake Y brings almost nothing new to the table over Skylake, so while Apple will likely include it, if they didn't, it would not be much of a loss.

Comet Lake U is where the action is at (LPDDR4X so more than 16GB is supported, Wi-Fi 6, etc.) but those are 15W parts so too hot for the MBA.
 
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Zdigital2015 said:
My opinion is that if a MacBook Air is going to be worthwhile, the CPU needs 4c/8t and an Iris Plus GPU as the HD 617 GPU is just hot garbage.
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I agree. The new Dell XPS 13 models are essentially the same size & weight as the MBA and incorporate Intel Ice lake 15W processors with up to Intel Iris GPU (depending on SKU). It's also using a 16:10 13.3" (up to 4K) screen like the MBA. So I don't see a reason why the MBA can't use the 15W processors. From a purely hardware perspective, this laptop is nicer than the MBA

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smulji said:
I agree. The new Dell XPS 13 models are essentially the same size & weight as the MBA and incorporate Intel Ice lake 15W processors with up to Intel Iris GPU (depending on SKU). It's also using a 16:10 13.3" (up to 4K) screen like the MBA. So I don't see a reason why the MBA can't use the 15W processors. From a purely hardware perspective, this laptop is nicer than the MBA

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The current MacBook Air is on the wrong side of the value proposition compared to where it was during its heyday (2013, 2014 and 2015). Apple failed miserably trying to replace it with the 12” MacBook and essentially took and threw away what was their go to computer for 90% of new buyers and 60% of repeat buyers. This mistake is more egregious than ignoring the Mac Pro for 4 years before finally getting around to their “famed” mea culpa. It doesn’t help that Intel’s CPU lineup is now a steaming pile of 14nm, 14nm+, 14nm++ and 10nm hash. Apple need to get their act together on the MBA. Adding a 15” model along with the 13” and going back to 15w U-Series and Iris GPUs is a decent start. Perhaps adding in an SD Card slot and/or USB 3 ports might be a good idea. The MBA doesn’t need innovating on the level of the MBP, it needs to be bread and butter. I know that is anathema to Apple, but a good solid Intel update that eases into the ARM/Arm era is how it should conclude it’s run, not a 7w craptastic CPU. Just my 2¢.
 
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smulji said:
I agree. The new Dell XPS 13 models are essentially the same size & weight as the MBA and incorporate Intel Ice lake 15W processors with up to Intel Iris GPU (depending on SKU). It's also using a 16:10 13.3" (up to 4K) screen like the MBA. So I don't see a reason why the MBA can't use the 15W processors. From a purely hardware perspective, this laptop is nicer than the MBA

www.dell.com

Computers, Monitors & Technology Solutions | Dell Canada

Dell provides technology solutions, services & support. Buy Laptops, Touch Screen PCs, Desktops, Servers, Storage, Monitors, Gaming & Accessories
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Well but that would essentially be the 13" MBP with 2 ports (formerly the no Touch Bar model).
Also wouldn't be able to sustain the MBA's battery life (that XPS 13 falls way short in that regard even compared to the MBP).
 
chucker23n1 said:
We'll see. At the very least, failure rates seem to have gone down significantly. Regardless, the reputation seems to be burnt for good.
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Too little, too late. As a Mac laptop user since 1999, I'll be happy to see this sad little experiment come to an end.
 
Zdigital2015 said:
The current MacBook Air is on the wrong side of the value proposition compared to where it was during its heyday (2013, 2014 and 2015). Apple failed miserably trying to replace it with the 12” MacBook and essentially took and threw away what was their go to computer for 90% of new buyers and 60% of repeat buyers. This mistake is more egregious than ignoring the Mac Pro for 4 years before finally getting around to their “famed” mea culpa. It doesn’t help that Intel’s CPU lineup is now a steaming pile of 14nm, 14nm+, 14nm++ and 10nm hash. Apple need to get their act together on the MBA. Adding a 15” model along with the 13” and going back to 15w U-Series and Iris GPUs is a decent start. Perhaps adding in an SD Card slot and/or USB 3 ports might be a good idea. The MBA doesn’t need innovating on the level of the MBP, it needs to be bread and butter. I know that is anathema to Apple, but a good solid Intel update that eases into the ARM/Arm era is how it should conclude it’s run, not a 7w craptastic CPU. Just my 2¢.
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The thing is Apple can inform intel to produce a 7w 4-cores CPU for the MBA years ago or in 2016 which is certainly a possibility.

The harsh truth is that TIM COOK does not share the same visionary as SJ for pushing the boundaries of technology for the mac lineup. In fact, TIM COOK is notorious for turning it into overpriced product with less innovation over the years and let's not forget the fiasco of butterfly mechanisms that took years to admit its failure.
 
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To cool the 15W CPU, the Dell XPS 13 needs a fan (and will still get warm if pushed - 115 degrees F at the keyboard). The MacBook Air also needs a smaller battery to offer the same (or better) battery life which reduces weight.
 
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CWallace said:
To cool the 15W CPU, the Dell XPS 13 needs a fan (and will still get warm if pushed - 115 degrees F at the keyboard). The MacBook Air also needs a smaller battery to offer the same (or better) battery life which reduces weight.
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The MacBook Air also requires a fan to squeeze adequate performance out of the Y series chip, Either stepping up to the better performance of a 15W U series (especially for the better graphics, the HD 617 is worse than the HD 6000 in the 2015 MBA!) or going with a custom Arm CPU (which iPads demonstrate seem to actually be able to give half decent sustained performance without active cooling) seems to be better than this worst of all worlds compromise.
 
Falhófnir said:
The MacBook Air also requires a fan to squeeze adequate performance out of the Y series chip, Either stepping up to the better performance of a 15W U series (especially for the better graphics, the HD 617 is worse than the HD 6000 in the 2015 MBA!) or going with a custom Arm CPU (which iPads demonstrate seem to actually be able to give half decent sustained performance without active cooling) seems to be better than this worst of all worlds compromise.
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It does have a fan, but compare the Air's (rather semi-passive) cooling system to that of the 13" MBP with 15W CPU..

I doubt we'll see a 15 Watt chip again in the Air. That spot has been taken by the lower-end (2 ports) 13" MBP.
 
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