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what I hope for is this - november event, apple introduces new Macbook retina.. and after the show, One more thing - os x ported to ARM CPUs and new macbook is built on A9X... A9X is killing Intel Skylake LV CPUs and GPUs...
 
A processor update wouldn't need an event, to be fair - unless they are changing more than just the processor, this would happen under the radar, based on past behaviour.

You are totally correct. But the point I'm trying to make (and I think you as well) is that even if they "just" upgraded the processor - there would be outcry in this forum again because they didn't add more ports or make a 14" version (which has no supply chain evidence to back it up at all. The 12" MacBook was rumoured to be in supply chain for almost a year before it came out. There has been 0 evidence of a 14" model).

Many of the people expecting/hoping for an update in these forums, IMO, are hoping for a full V2.0 machine - more ports, better processor, more RAM, etc... and I don't see that happening in the next 3 months. Again, IMHO, but there is a SLIM chance they'll update the processor, but I think you hit the nail on the head here:

Skyline presents an opportunity for them to UPDATE THE MACBOOK FOR 2016; which I doubt will otherwise happen.

Exactly why I don't think there'll be an update. If they update to Skylake in October, there may not be anything for them to update to in the 1st Half of 2016. the 10nm successor to Skylake was supposed to be Cannonlake - but that's delayed till the 2nd Half of 2017 now. Instead, Intel's supposedly releasing Kaby Lake (just a bump of Skylake) in 2H16... but no specificity on whether any of the Kaby Lake Y-chips will make sense for the MacBook, and that's already presuming Kaby Lake even gets released in enough quantity in time for updates in Fall 2016?

So if Apple updates to Skylake in October, that would leave them with two updates for the rMB in 2015 and the real possibility of Zero updates (as there may not be suitable/released processors for them to update to) in 2016? Seems fishy to me.

The other point I see towards a Q1 2016 update is that laptops are traditionally updated in time for back to school season. The Air has been updated in June/July for a number of years. If there won't be processors other than Skylake until at least Aug/Sept 2016, I couldn't see Apple *not* updating the MacBook before Back to School next year... and if they blow their wad on Skylake in October, there will be nothing for them to update the rMB with in Jun-Aug next year.
 
what I hope for is this - november event, apple introduces new Macbook retina.. and after the show, One more thing - os x ported to ARM CPUs and new macbook is built on A9X... A9X is killing Intel Skylake LV CPUs and GPUs...

I completely think this will happen in the next 5-10 years. I fully agree with you. But until we get a decent software library that can compete with the big players in terms of a realistic student/business user it won't happen. For the price range of a Macbook people are going to expect to be able to run Full Blown Excel spreadsheets, Word documents, Powerpoint etc. The mobile software library is far from that stage.

To contrast, I'm a Computer Engineer. I mainly dabble in low level logic development in addition to VLSI work. There isn't a single piece of software that would allow me to work unhindered on a platform like that. Real development work. Until we see full blown Xcode (IA32, x86-64, and ARMHF cross-compilers) or some sort of CAD software for electronics design (like EAGLE), real business users will not grasp onto a platform like that. I think people would be surprised in the amount of business users and their market share of the Mac computer market. You have to imagine these devices are going to be compared to things like the Surface, or any of the infinite other tablets on the market as well that would be able to run this software.

Just food for thought.
 
I completely think this will happen in the next 5-10 years. I fully agree with you. But until we get a decent software library that can compete with the big players in terms of a realistic student/business user it won't happen. For the price range of a Macbook people are going to expect to be able to run Full Blown Excel spreadsheets, Word documents, Powerpoint etc. The mobile software library is far from that stage.

To contrast, I'm a Computer Engineer. I mainly dabble in low level logic development in addition to VLSI work. There isn't a single piece of software that would allow me to work unhindered on a platform like that. Real development work. Until we see full blown Xcode (IA32, x86-64, and ARMHF cross-compilers) or some sort of CAD software for electronics design (like EAGLE), real business users will not grasp onto a platform like that. I think people would be surprised in the amount of business users and their market share of the Mac computer market. You have to imagine these devices are going to be compared to things like the Surface, or any of the infinite other tablets on the market as well that would be able to run this software.

Just food for thought.
Well, but man can dream, right?:)
Seriously, I am one of those users that can live without non apple apps, so all I need is ported os x and core Apple apps.
Other thing is, u wont force devs to port their apps to arm os x until there is any arm os x:)
 
I completely think this will happen in the next 5-10 years. I fully agree with you. But until we get a decent software library that can compete with the big players in terms of a realistic student/business user it won't happen. For the price range of a Macbook people are going to expect to be able to run Full Blown Excel spreadsheets, Word documents, Powerpoint etc. The mobile software library is far from that stage.

To contrast, I'm a Computer Engineer. I mainly dabble in low level logic development in addition to VLSI work. There isn't a single piece of software that would allow me to work unhindered on a platform like that. Real development work. Until we see full blown Xcode (IA32, x86-64, and ARMHF cross-compilers) or some sort of CAD software for electronics design (like EAGLE), real business users will not grasp onto a platform like that. I think people would be surprised in the amount of business users and their market share of the Mac computer market. You have to imagine these devices are going to be compared to things like the Surface, or any of the infinite other tablets on the market as well that would be able to run this software.

Just food for thought.

But shouldn't Apple point these business users with all these heavy lifting needs to a MacBook Pro or even the MacPro?
Apple would have supply chain benefits and better margins by using in-house processors on the consumer/ prosumer end of the market. Why would Apple give that up while waiting for business applications to catch up?
 
Exactly.. Start migrating os x to arm with macbook and later, in few years, when arm catches up with intel, kill intel in whole line up:) for now, a9x is better than intel M chips in macbook (gou much much better, cpu just better) and with a10x... everything is possible:)
 
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