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New MacBook Pro 6,1 on Geekbench!!
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With Apple's history with GPUs as your guide, prepare to be disappointed.
Hi guys, been following your forums for awhile now to keep updated in the past on Macs, felt it's time to jump ship and join on
.Anyway, I have some faith Apple will update to the current line of processors, with with a 'slight' chance of a low end mobile quad on the 17" model. As far as GFX solutions go, HIGHLY unlikely, (wishful thinking) but maybe they got some Fermi GPUs early, or will supprise us and give us an ATI GPU *prays* but on a more real-world chance, they will probably have the 335mobility which is rather dissapointing
, but it's apple, so I'm prepared to be dissapointed specwise..I just want my first period
, Started using Macs way back when the iMac G3 was around, but finally have the funds to actually purchase one so I'm excited.Turbo Boost, is basically, the processors ability to OverClock itself to a higher clock speed in certain tasks when only a certain amount of CPU is being used. Like for instance. If your just sitting on the desktop not doing much, maybe iTunes, and want to open safari, the CPU can boost itself to 3GHz to open safari faster than it would normally (basic example can be used much more than this) to make computing tasks faster, while retaining a cooler CPU temp with a lower clock rate when idle.
Translate into 100% speed bump on my machine! I think that people comparing to 3.06Ghz processors said it was 24% faster. Even more so for equally clocked machines.
If the low end MBP 13 inch sells for $1200 with only a core i3, 2gb ram and no dedicated GPU ... that's a really big joke and I'll be really disappointed in Apple.
I wouldn't be surprised if they threw the i3 into the Macbook eventually and 13" MBP got the i5. However, that leaves Apple with fewer build to order options. I'll get back to that. The i3 primarily just looses "Turbo boost" and a bit of clock speed at the lowest end. Not a huge jump from the lowest i5 if going to be constantly running multiple processes.
This seems to be on the presumption that the Arrandale GPU is worse than the 9400M. If it has performance effectively the same as the 9400M this really isn't a problem.
From the following review (http://techreport.com/articles.x/18218) :
Doesn't sound like a completely bubble-gum IGP (although probably won't ramp all the way up to a 900Mhz in a MBP.) . Sounds like something that will get more battery life if you don't stress it and will compete favorably with 9400m when do. Sure may be disappointing if wanted to go faster, but Apple will just ask folks to chuck up more bucks if they absolutely need that for their business.
The benchmarks later in the article have the laptop doing 21.6 frames per second on Call of Duty 4 (and a Dell 14z 9400m doing 29.1 which is 25% drop. How much of that is immature drivers on a beta box is open to question.). However, compared to the previous Intel IGP in this benchmark set it is a huge improvement. It is a trade-off for better battery life. Apple never has targeted the gamer laptop market before and don't expect them to now.
So from the table of i3, i5, i7 chips on the review's first page and tossing out the UM versions. (maybe put one of those in a MB Air but no way want those in a MB or MBP ). So
Core i7-620M 2.66GHz $332
Core i7-640LM 2.13GHz $332
Core i7-620LM 2.0GHz $300 (???? )
Core i5-540M 2.53GHz $257
Core i5-520M 2.4GHz $225
Core i5-430M 2.26GHz NA
Core i3-350M 2.26GHz NA
Core i3-330M 2.13GHz NA
Without using the i3s there is no way to give:
17" with two speed options (overlap under one with 15")
15" with three speed options (overlap over with 17" and under with 13")
13" with two speed options (overlap over one with 15" )
Unless throw the the 620LM into the mix. Then the speed ranges all jumble up.
Could be that they'll use the discrete GPUs and associated memory to do more discrimination and dump the *LM options. If so then
i7 620M for 17" ( and two graphic differentiated options. Or purposely downclocked one.)
i5 540/520 for 15" ( again with GPU differentiated options for upper two)
i5 520/420 for 13" (with no GPU differentiated options )
That would leave the i3's for the MacBook line. ( no "Pro" tag --> no "Turbo Boost" abilities. ) Although could go with limited MacBook line-up still and just put the i5/420 in there so had one and only one choice.
As someone who's previous lappy was a powerbook G4/667 I'm looking forward to the nigh on 13x increase in speed.
I just want my first period
Puberty will be rough. Its not all that its hyped up to be.
Apple won't get away with stuffing a C2D into a "pro"-laptop in the year 2010. Seriously, I would be shocked if they did that. Even the i3 is basically an insult in a "pro"-machine, but I could actually see them putting it into the 13"
Apple won't get away with stuffing a C2D into a "pro"-laptop in the year 2010. Seriously, I would be shocked if they did that. Even the i3 is basically an insult in a "pro"-machine, but I could actually see them putting it into the 13"
i3 is an insult if they did that it will be big disappointment. Also i don't think there will be any major changes just regular processor update since apple is not holding a conference for it so no USB 3 or graphics update this time may be in September 10'.
LOL
I just want my first period
Heh, I wanted to make the comment earlier that a comma in that sentence would have been recommended, but I didn't want to start the iPad discussions all over again.