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The Arrandale processors contains two die in on package. The actual CPU and the northbridge which has the memory controller and graphics. The processor communicates internally with the CPU and northbrige with QPI. The speed of the QPI is 4.8GT/s (Gigatranfers per second). Thats why Geekbench thinks its 4.8GHz. Geekbench doesn't knows it not a FSB but it can still get its speed and simply calls it FSB.

As I already stated the processor can't be faked. Here is the Geekbench result of a real Mac Pro. Look at the FSB. It says 5.87GHz when what it really is referring to is the QPI of 5.86GT/s.

Thanks for this Skeakz, one of the more useful posts in this thread.

Translation: The oft-mentioned MacBookPro6,1 GeekBench result of 5260 overall was not faked. Unless someone can post a fake GreekBench FSB score?

Accordingly, we *should* be seeing new MBPs very soon, most very likely this month.
 
No idea if this has been said - but, I really would like to see something a little (OK, a lot) stronger than the 9600GT. That, and I hope Apple retains the matte display option - I despise looking into a mirror while using my laptop. I'm looking to buy sometime in April or May, so it better be out by then too.:D
 
No idea if this has been said - but, I really would like to see something a little (OK, a lot) stronger than the 9600GT. That, and I hope Apple retains the matte display option - I despise looking into a mirror while using my laptop. I'm looking to buy sometime in April or May, so it better be out by then too.:D

GTS 360M looks alright ;) *dreaming*

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No idea if this has been said - but, I really would like to see something a little (OK, a lot) stronger than the 9600GT. That, and I hope Apple retains the matte display option - I despise looking into a mirror while using my laptop. I'm looking to buy sometime in April or May, so it better be out by then too.:D

I agree with you, although I'll be buying one as soon as they refresh them.
 
The nVidia 335M is everyone's prodigy. Frankly, I know it's not an ATI HD 5000 but I can't pass up that it's a powerful card for its thermals.
 
I think it should be a forum rule that if you post too hot---it won't happen.
you have to provide stats to back it up.

a lot of times these cards are the same thermals as the existing cards now
 
I think it should be a forum rule that if you post too hot---it won't happen.
you have to provide stats to back it up.

a lot of times these cards are the same thermals as the existing cards now
Okay, GTS 260M is a 38W TDP GPU. No die shrink to 40nm from 55nm will bring it down to an acceptable (for MBP) 25W or less.
 
I actually don't follow laptop GPUs too closely unfortunately. I do know that laptops intended to be mobile workstations need a lot more than a 9600GT can pony up though. Apple's really skimping on GPU, compared to many other companies. Hopefully they'll hit all the needed performance aspects rather than adding something arbitrary...blu-ray comes to mind.
 
So we've pretty much come to the consensus that the MBP will have some sort of Core iX in them shortly. Do you guys think they'll completely upgrade the MBPs to the iX processors or will they sell C2Ds alongside, as they do with the iMac?
Or will they just offer the i5/i7 as an BTO? Thoughts? Ideas?
 
While I am excited about the potential speed bumps...

What I want is QUALITY:

No GPU issues (NVIDIA I am looking at you.)

No screen flickers (Still an issue in current shipping models)

No heat & fan issues

No inconsistent, splotchy & yellow screens.


I love Apple, but their quality has been on a slide for years now and it's getting unbearable. The fact that shipping MacBook Pros, iMacs and Mac Pros have serious quality issues show how out of control it has gotten. Apple's magic "out-of-the-box" experience has become nothing short of stressful.

I sold my MBP since I was tired of the Genius Bar and the warranty was up.

I want a new MBP, but the prospect of spending $3,500 on crappy hardware is scaring the heck out of me. I love Apple design and thoughtfulness, I just wish they would get the crappy Chinese factories in line...
 
So what makes people think this is coming relativly soon, given that they will apparently just release it.. :apple:
 
While I am excited about the potential speed bumps...

What I want is QUALITY:

No GPU issues (NVIDIA I am looking at you.)

No screen flickers (Still an issue in current shipping models)

No heat & fan issues

No inconsistent, splotchy & yellow screens.


I love Apple, but their quality has been on a slide for years now and it's getting unbearable. The fact that shipping MacBook Pros, iMacs and Mac Pros have serious quality issues show how out of control it has gotten. Apple's magic "out-of-the-box" experience has become nothing short of stressful.

I sold my MBP since I was tired of the Genius Bar and the warranty was up.

I want a new MBP, but the prospect of spending $3,500 on crappy hardware is scaring the heck out of me. I love Apple design and thoughtfulness, I just wish they would get the crappy Chinese factories in line...

As someone who has had 1 Mac for 9 years that died, I'm going to be looking at an iMac for the Family AND Macbook Pro for Video Editing for me my question is what year did Apple Q/A go down Hill?
 
While I am excited about the potential speed bumps...

What I want is QUALITY:

No GPU issues (NVIDIA I am looking at you.)

No screen flickers (Still an issue in current shipping models)

No heat & fan issues

No inconsistent, splotchy & yellow screens.


I love Apple, but their quality has been on a slide for years now and it's getting unbearable. The fact that shipping MacBook Pros, iMacs and Mac Pros have serious quality issues show how out of control it has gotten. Apple's magic "out-of-the-box" experience has become nothing short of stressful.

I sold my MBP since I was tired of the Genius Bar and the warranty was up.

I want a new MBP, but the prospect of spending $3,500 on crappy hardware is scaring the heck out of me. I love Apple design and thoughtfulness, I just wish they would get the crappy Chinese factories in line...

I agree that for the amount of money we are looking to spend on a mac we shouldn't have a bunch of issues. But you can't expect to get a perfect product somethings are going to happen that apple did not expect.

Also look what apple has done about the issues that you have listed.

For the imac's they are giving 15% back

And for the NVIDIA cards they extended the warranty. So it's not like they are just sweeping their issues under the rug.
 
As someone who has had 1 Mac for 9 years that died, I'm going to be looking at an iMac for the Family AND Macbook Pro for Video Editing for me my question is what year did Apple Q/A go down Hill?

Ive been through many apple systems from mac minis to macbooks to macbook pros (never imacs though). The quality has always been excellent as far as I can tell. I wouldn't be concerned - just wait until the 27" Imac issue is resolved if you plan on getting that model.
 
yes yes you are a rude bastard.

Well I'm pretty sure you're high or 12... not sure which one, but I'm going to go with high. AMD + :apple: = no go as poster explained above. Haven't had an amd in a while, but im pretty sure you could fry an egg on an aluminum mbp with amd inside. Hungry for anymore troll food?
 
Well I'm pretty sure you're high or 12... not sure which one, but I'm going to go with high. AMD + :apple: = no go as poster explained above. Haven't had an amd in a while, but im pretty sure you could fry an egg on an aluminum mbp with amd inside. Hungry for anymore troll food?

Come on guys - calm it down a little. The question may not have been to your 'liking' but there's no need to call the person a retard. Be nice everyone:)
 
Okay, GTS 260M is a 38W TDP GPU. No die shrink to 40nm from 55nm will bring it down to an acceptable (for MBP) 25W or less.

Hey, quit with the facts and figures, you're going to destroy my ATI HD5850 w/ GDDR5 dream. You're really harshing my buzz man. :p

If only Apple could figure out a way to support another 5W TDP...maybe special speakers with integrated cooling...*sigh* I know, it's too much to hope for.
 
The 5850 would be nice...

It would be neat if Apple went back to having silver keys like in the G4 Powerbooks...I just think the current black keys look out of place. (I think that would also mean doing away with the black bezel around the screen...so I bet it won't happen.) I absolutely NEED my matte display option though. Is anyone thinking USB 3.0 support?
 
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