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To be fair, the goal for that refresh was power consumption, and they really delivered on increased battery life. Also Broadwell is just a die shrinkage so none of this is unexpected.

Get your facts straight.. both 2013 and 2014 were Haswell. There was no refresh at all CPU-wise.
 
Get your facts straight.. both 2013 and 2014 were Haswell. There was no refresh at all CPU-wise.

In 2013, the low and mid range models were both 2.4 Ghz Haswell, with 128/4 and 256/8, respectively. The high end was 2.6/512/8. There was a 2.8 Ghz BTO option.

In 2014, the low and mid range moved to 2.6 Ghz Haswell with 128/8 and 256/8. The high end moved to 2.8/512/8, and there was a 3.0 Ghz BTO option.

All of these models had the same Iris graphics.

So yes, they were all Haswells, but the clock speeds did increase at each price point from 2013 to 2014.
 
In 2013, the low and mid range models were both 2.4 Ghz Haswell, with 128/4 and 256/8, respectively. The high end was 2.6/512/8. There was a 2.8 Ghz BTO option.

In 2014, the low and mid range moved to 2.6 Ghz Haswell with 128/8 and 256/8. The high end moved to 2.8/512/8, and there was a 3.0 Ghz BTO option.

All of these models had the same Iris graphics.

So yes, they were all Haswells, but the clock speeds did increase at each price point from 2013 to 2014.

Whatever. Apple just swapped the chips because Intel offered higher clocked ones at the same price, and raised the other specs because some kind of upgrade was expected. Nothing big, really.
 
I got the 2014 model on its way to the Apple Store. So I guess there isn't any point in me canceling that order and ordering the new model? I got the high end one with 16gb of ram option.
 
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Yes! My MBA mid 2011 just increased in value ;)

On ebay? Still not sure if I should make the jump from my i7 2011 MBA. Photoshop CC could do a bit better on my external 24 display though. But I can't find any benchmarks HD3000 vs HD5000 and upwards.
 
11" macbook air is nice. But then there is no sd port...

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Might be good time to get refurbished or older generation mba???
 
Look!

Numbers!

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Not too surprised about the neglible CPU performance improvement as I had heard before that Intel would be focusing on energy usage this time around, some articles even told it could be a game changer. So the low battery life imrpovement, barely any at all for the Air, is more surprising imho.

They like it to last a long time, but they hate paying for it. Or they think they do. NOTE: if what you need is a server or a development machine or a part of a rendering farm, this is not your machine.
 
I have never been one who is into benchmarks, I love the new forum factor and technology. I will be one of the first ones to order the top end model in silver.
 
This doesn't really bother me. The improvements to battery life are substantial. To me, that was more important anyway.

But by how much was the Macbook Air battery life improved with this new Broadwell chips? I keep looking and nobody has said anything. Apple claims 1 extra hour on the 13' retina MacBook Pro ( which is good ), but nothing mentioned about the Air.
 
The cpu in the rMBPs were already fast - broadwell added another hour of battery life which I am quite thrilled about. 40% faster gpu!, faster memory (insanely fast actually), twice the ssd speed (!!!), new force touch with haptic feedback. If people can still find reason to complain, holy crap. Lol. I cannot wait to get mine!
 
1. Negligible performance improvement...
2. OS X quality drops without options to downgrade...
3. Price increased exorbitantly (from where I am)...

I'll be keeping my soon-to-be 5-year old MBP for another year I guess... :rolleyes:

Considering the rate the low end gets processor updates its still going to take a while before the low end gets similar 2Ghz plus chips your 5 year old MBP had. These marginal increases in speed remind me of the days when Apple only upped their speed by 50mhz once or twice a year.

The only Macs I could justify buying these days are the ones that are used and half off the original prices. Apple won't be seeing that money but I would still end up with a machine that is noticeably faster than todays lowest priced macs. But I'm someone who needs Macs to work on. I could not justify spending $1,300 on a machine that would just show me the same stuff I can read off an iPad or iPhone. Now if that machine cold at least play todays and next years games at great frame rates, I could at least use that as an excuse to get one. But they keep trying to keep their consumer models below 2ghz and that just won't cut it at this price.
If the first generation macbook air cost $1,800 and now sells for $1,000. You know they are just trying to recoup their manufacturing costs during the first year. These things will be selling for a grand in 2 or 3 years or maybe lower. They can only justify this price because they are the first ones to make a nice version of the same kinds of laptops that will be commonplace a few years from now. But are they really worth the asking price for what you are getting?
 
Intel chip covered by non descript heatsink

Intel performace is less relevant as the line moving ARM.

Only minor chip tweaks suggest Air is not going to last past 2015. Sales dissapointments with iPad Air suggest some sort of Pro rework.
 
I priced a MacBook pro with the options I want. Nearly $3700 and that doesn't even include Final Cut Pro or Logic Pro.

I'm very disappointed that > 16 GB memory is not available.
I'm very disappointed that > 1TB of internal storage is not available.
I'm very disappointed that a 17" or larger (yes, larger) screen size is not available.

I am MOST disappointed that even one or two of these power user features and capacities are not available and the laptop is STILL nearly $3700.

People keep getting themselves distracted by arguing about strong dollar vs. weak dollar, corporate greed, etc. You're losing sight of the real problem, folks. In the laptop realm, where a lot of us still live, work, and play, Apple is resting on its laurels now and has stopped innovation.

I say the product is so lacking in power features that we have a long way to go before I'll start worrying about how much my money will buy.

This is just not very serious of you, Apple. :confused: :(
 
forget Broadwell, Skylake is around the corner

It's not right around the corner, it will be delated. and suitable volume orders of skyline won't be ready for macbook pro until around Q3 2016.

I think some OpenGL GPUtest FurMark and TessMark results would be useful to see how the Intel 6000 and 6100 integrated GPU compares to previous Intel integrated GPUs. Ditto for LuxMark OpenCL Sala scene rendering. Both are free benchmarks.

Meanwhile, I'll check on some PC websites for their test results on the Intel 6000/6100 and post what I find here.

There are no PCs with intel HD 6000, or iris 6100.... atleast I have not been able to find any.

I don't know much about 5300 (is 4400 better than 5300? why even use numbers then?), but Core M Broadwell has to be a lot better than previous Ys. My only question is how it compares to Haswell Us, etc.

Tom's Guide comparison to i5-4302Y:
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4400 is better than HD 5300.
Core M is better than last gen Ys. but last gen Ys weren't used anywhere, maybe some random tablets here and there

2x larger flash storage as standard would be 10x better.

yea and expensive.. I don't want to pay for 512GB or 1024GB SSD
 
I have never been one who is into benchmarks, I love the new forum factor and technology. I will be one of the first ones to order the top end model in silver.

Then you are the NEW Apple's ideal customer.

I"m guessing you don't mind buying a new computer every two years either, right?

I'm not trying to pick on you, just disappointed with the new reality.
 
Then you are the NEW Apple's ideal customer.

I"m guessing you don't mind buying a new computer every two years either, right?

I'm not trying to pick on you, just disappointed with the new reality.


No I don't have a problem doing that and as long as the product meets my demands, I am perfectly happy with it. We converted our business to Mac back in 2007 and never looked back.

I have been into computers since the 80's and for me it's not about how fast they can play games and/or stream videos. It's how well they run the software I use in my business and how portable they are and it looks like this new Mac Pro is going to fit both requirements.
 
No I don't have a problem doing that and as long as the product meets my demands, I am perfectly happy with it. We converted our business to Mac back in 2007 and never looked back.

I have been into computers since the 80's and for me it's not about how fast they can play games and/or stream videos. It's how well they run the software I use in my business and how portable they are and it looks like this new Mac Pro is going to fit both requirements.

Yosemite is not only incredibly buggy but arguably one of the worst resource hogs that Apple released. For it to come on the heels of Mavericks, which IMHO was one of the most impressive OS releases in terms of efficiency/nimbleness shows how important this "eye candy" trash is becoming to the company.

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What competition?
The only other PC processor I heard of was AMD and hardly any one uses that

Yeah, but that is not where the action is. It is in the mobile arena where Intel is getting crushed by the likes of ARM.
 
I agree that Yosemite is very buggy and I am still having issues with MS Office crashing, but some of the software fixes they have released are fixing some of my issues.

I will not affect my decision to buy one of the new Mac Pro notebooks as soon as it's available. I have had great success with every Apple PC I have purchased since 2007 and I am not changing any time soon.
 
Then you are the NEW Apple's ideal customer.

I"m guessing you don't mind buying a new computer every two years either, right?

If performance is important to you (as I derive from your rhetorics), then you HAVE to buy a new computer every two years.
 
That's debatable! one port is in no way better than two or three - what that 1 port can do, doesn't matter. The loss of MagSafe is also a retrograde step IMO.

I would have preferred MagSafe and at least a couple of USB-C ports, but that isn't going to happen... at least not in the first MacBook model. The good news for people who need something more is there are still Airs and Pros available. I don't see either one going away in the next two or three years.

A major problem I see is people buying the new MacBook and only later realizing what connectivity options there are.
 
No number for the flash storage yet ?

Working as a code monkey, I've found that fast disk is very nice and I do love my 13" Mid 2014 MBP. A quad core would have been great (maven scales well with cores now), but I went with the smaller one.

I haven't seen any actual numbers for the new flash storage.

Anyone else seen any tests regarding disk speed (both the new MB and the new MBP) ?

ps. I mean actual numbers, not the "2X faster". Like Blackmagic disk speed test et. al.
 
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