New MacBook Pro Could Have a Notch, Says Sketchy Last-Minute Rumor
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Unregistered 4U
macrumors G4
It’s only Saturday… still last minute leaks to come!
I would imagine since most of the world is knowledgeable about the iPhone and not so much the Mac, there’s not as many people trying to find out about the Mac.
mashinhead
macrumors 68040
How does this matter. They could put 3 notches on this thing, one on every side, and everyone on this forum, complaining or not would still buy it. And Apple knows that. Eventually one day you'll need a new computer. What are you going to do? Buy a windows laptop?
Anyway this isn't about a notch. Its about Face ID on a laptop. Do you want it? Y/N. If yes that comes with a notch. can't have it all. I will say that I haven't found FaceID on the iPad to be that great, becuase it doesn't account for the distance and hand position of using an ipad and isn't as smooth as the iPhone exp.
darngooddesign
macrumors Core
This isn't about Face ID, this is about the top bezel being too small to house the camera and possible sensors.
mashinhead
macrumors 68040
Sensors for what?
darngooddesign
macrumors Core
Ambient Light sensor for truetone at the very least, or everything needed for FaceID if that ends up happening. If the bezel is too thin then camera and sensor(s) would have to go in a notch, especially if Apple wants a better FaceTime camera without making the leading edge of the lid thicker.
I wouldn't buy it and so would other people. Sure, there would still be buyers but notch is just stupid.
You don't need notch if you want to implement FaceID as other products showed us.
Notch on mac is not happening - it would be a design suicide not to mention the massacre in media Apple would receive.
You don't need notch if you want to implement FaceID as other products showed us.
Notch on mac is not happening - it would be a design suicide not to mention the massacre in media Apple would receive.
Apathy Overdose
macrumors member
Just go with uneven bezels where the notch is exterior to the screen instead. If given the option between A and B below, I would go with B every time.
ProfessionalFan
macrumors 603
Which products? Before you say iPad Pro, remember it is quite a bit thicker than the screen of a MacBook Pro.
ProfessionalFan
macrumors 603
It would never be as big as the examples. That is comically large.Just go with uneven bezels where the notch is exterior to the screen instead. If given the option between A and B below, I would go with B every time.
anshuvorty
macrumors 68040
oh hell no with option B. I can just imagine the repair nightmares that can happen as a result of making the notch like in option B. You slam the cover down and the notch just breaks off or gets damaged....You put the laptop in your bag incorrectly and it shuffles around and destroys the notch, etc.Just go with uneven bezels where the notch is exterior to the screen instead. If given the option between A and B below, I would go with B every time.
rembert
macrumors regular
I like my screens to be clear rectangles, without notches. Can we have the macOS topbar there? Preferably black with white letters? Full screen apps become a bit trickier but maybe they'll have an option to have a black bar at the top, 74 pixels in height, just to maintain that clear rectangle view. But, the notch won't be a dealbreaker.
But now those fans: why does this MBP need bigger fans? I thought the M1 wasn't running hot? The M1 Air I have is never running hot. The MBP16 however is, but not that often - that one does have an excuse: Intel inside. What did they do with that M1X? Good old overclocking? That would be a dealbreaker. I'm not that fond of Apple hardware running hot. I've had my share with overheated video cards, loose soldering connections, mainboard reflowing etc. Don't ever want to go there again. The MBP16 is a very mature very stable device. I won't replace it that easy with some experimental overheated M1X which apparently needs bigger fans [than the MBP16].
But now those fans: why does this MBP need bigger fans? I thought the M1 wasn't running hot? The M1 Air I have is never running hot. The MBP16 however is, but not that often - that one does have an excuse: Intel inside. What did they do with that M1X? Good old overclocking? That would be a dealbreaker. I'm not that fond of Apple hardware running hot. I've had my share with overheated video cards, loose soldering connections, mainboard reflowing etc. Don't ever want to go there again. The MBP16 is a very mature very stable device. I won't replace it that easy with some experimental overheated M1X which apparently needs bigger fans [than the MBP16].
lazyrighteye
macrumors 601
Once the iPad hit, I always thought Ive was headed toward a MBP that - once opened - was all glass: screen and keyboard area. Leveraging the on-screen keyboard (ala iPad) as the only keyboard. Yes, I do realize the challenge and uproar that would elicit. Hasn't stopped them before.
anyway, all sorts of factors aside (least of which are aspects like durability durability and fingerprinting), something that "could" hit on that all glass concept while maintaining physical keys... An all black glass surface, where the physical keys are flush with the surface, made of the same black material (Gorilla glass?). Would be interesting to see the keys travel below the surface as opposed to the standard that is traveling down to meet the surface. Not at ALL expecting this. Just something I've pondered.
anyway, all sorts of factors aside (least of which are aspects like durability durability and fingerprinting), something that "could" hit on that all glass concept while maintaining physical keys... An all black glass surface, where the physical keys are flush with the surface, made of the same black material (Gorilla glass?). Would be interesting to see the keys travel below the surface as opposed to the standard that is traveling down to meet the surface. Not at ALL expecting this. Just something I've pondered.
iPhone has notch because otherwise it would be thick bezels (or uneven one)
iPad Pro doesn't have it because the bezels are fine
Same goes for any laptop etc.
If Apple does notch then that would be totally idiotic move and would piss more people off than those that are not happy with bezels.
iPad Pro doesn't have it because the bezels are fine
Same goes for any laptop etc.
If Apple does notch then that would be totally idiotic move and would piss more people off than those that are not happy with bezels.
ProfessionalFan
macrumors 603
iPad Pro doesn't have a notch because it is thick enough with the bezels to not need one.
Which laptop has Face ID? Windows Hello pales in comparison if you're referring to that.
anshuvorty
macrumors 68040
Man, it would be crazy if at the event on Monday, Apple just straight up revealed FaceID for the Mac, without going around it, and just embraced it.
That would be insane…
That would be insane…
mashinhead
macrumors 68040
Oh my bad. For some reason I thought I a lot of the hardware they had to put in a notch—which makes the notch as wide as it is—vs. only having a camera as they currently do, was in service of enabling features like Face ID. But thanks for clarifying.
mashinhead
macrumors 68040
Yea you're probably right. They were skewered in the media, and the forum for putting it on the iPhone. And for removing the headphone jack. Total design suicide. It really affected sales so I don't see them making that mistake again.
Juuro
macrumors 6502
Bigger fans also mean quieter fans because they don't have to spin that fast to get the same amount of air through. And the 16" MacBook Pro is a device that will be used for video editing and when rendering videos also a M1X will get hot. I don't think it will get crazy hot like some Intel chips, it's still a fairly similar chip like the M1. They will have a little more space on their hands in the 16". So they could decide if they put in a bigger battery or bigger fans to keep it cooler for longer and/or quieter for longer. I mean that seems to be exactly what you want.
Not me! In fact, I wont buy an iPhone anymore either until the notch goes away.
Actually, it is about the notch. But if I had a choice of faceID means I get the notch, I for sure don't want it.
I'd take B every time, but why make it uneven, just make the top bezel big enough...Just go with uneven bezels where the notch is exterior to the screen instead. If given the option between A and B below, I would go with B every time.
My M1 MBA runs hot, too hot to hold comfortably. (running browsers, Java apps, and virtual machines)
Macmanrules
macrumors newbie
Notch would be about the worst idea Apple can even consider… about 100x worse than the touchbar
Apple's redesigned MacBook Pro models could feature a notch containing the webcam, according to a sketchy last-minute rumor that is circulating online.
MacRumors' render of a next-generation MacBook Pro with a notch.
The rumor appears to have originated from a Weibo user in China, who stipulates that the redesigned MacBook Pro will feature a notch. It apparently has a size "similar to iPhone 12." The Twitter user known as "DuanRui," who often shares information about Apple's plans from Weibo, suggested that the rumor could simply be a joke. That being said, a Reddit user with no track-record, who professes to have spoken with supply chain sources, has now made the same claim.
The Reddit post says that the new MacBook Pro will feature a standard-sized notch rather than the smaller one from the iPhone 13 lineup. Instead of containing a Face ID TrueDepth camera like on the iPhone, the MacBook Pro's notch apparently houses a 1080p webcam, a True Tone sensor, and a microphone.
Even with a notch out of the top of the display, Apple is said to have been unable to give the MacBook Pro four borders with equal width. This notch design is also apparently set to come to 2022's redesigned MacBook Air.
Although the claim may seem laughable at first, the Redditor highlighted MacRumors' finding that the new 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pros will feature resolutions of 3024 by 1964 and 3456 by 2234. When subtracting 74 pixels from the height of both, the 3024 by 1890 and 3456 by 2160 is equivalent to an aspect ratio of 16:10. All of Apple's current MacBooks feature an aspect ratio of 16:10, so with the allowance of 74 pixels in height for a notch, this point does seem to be plausible.
The iPhone 11's TrueDepth camera array, known colloquially as the "notch."
Huge questions remain around how macOS would handle a notch, since it would clearly eat into the Menu Bar, and it seems baffling that Apple would give the MacBook Pro a notch while withholding Face ID and equally sized bezels.
Another rumor mentioned in the Reddit post and on Weibo claims that the entire keyboard area of the new MacBook Pros is black, rather than just the keys, in what is "probably the biggest visual change on the keyboard since the Unibody redesigns over a decade ago." There is also the not-unreasonable assertion that the MacBook Pros will be getting thicker and feature larger fans.
This is a rumor from unproven sources, but it is worth noting that the Apple rumor-mill has been blindsided before, such as with the last-minute claim that the Apple Watch Series 7 would feature the same rounded design of the Apple Watch Series 6, which was derided by observers online but ultimately turned out to be true.
The notch has become something of a brand icon for Apple, making recent-generation iPhones highly recognizable. The design feature has criticized for being inelegant by some users, and if it turns out to be correct, the notch coming to the MacBook Pro would likely be a source of derision for a device that has otherwise been highly anticipated.
The new MacBook Pro models are widely expected to be announced on Monday, 18 October at Apple's "Unleashed" event.
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