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totally different thing and not even comparable. Bezels were always present and so was the chin. You example is not relevant for this case

I just want to make a statement that apple sometimes does something that nobody expects or finds logical. Not comparing the new iMac to the new MacBook Pro.
 
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I just hate how inconsistent Apple is. I want a notch on everything. My Apple Watch is desperately missing a notch. It just doesn't feel fluid to go back and forth between different devices and some have a notch and some don't. Oh and my HomePod needs a notch as well. I might cut one into it for aesthetic reasons.
 
I call BS. First of all I hate the notch even on iPhones but they can work around it with the UI. With OS X applications with lengthy menu items would but into it. Also would cause major issues when using an application in full screen mode.

I want clean edges to my OS X UI. I don’t even want curved edges.
 
Why would people even want small bezels on a laptop? On a phone it makes sense because you want the device to be as small as possible. But especially on a machine for content creation, I actually like bezels.

Bezels serve a purpose. They separate your work from the surroundings. Professional monitors even have bigger bezels than technically necessary, just to be able to focus on your screen better.

I, for one, would love for apple to make the bezels bigger rather than smaller. Those few extra centimeters will fit in my bag anyway.

Haha. But I’m probably the only one. We’ll see.
Because you can fit more screen real estate while not making the actual laptop bigger.
Some of us use our portables as… well… portables.
Being able to fit a 14 inch plus screen in the current dimensions of the 13.3, or shrinking the 16 inch while keeping the 16 inch display? Very beneficial to a lot of people.
 
I'd definitely rather not have a notch in an ideal world. But if they'll give me the current size 16" screen, with a better (possibly FaceID) camera above it, then those extra pixels rumoured effectively give me 2 extra bonus strips of display each side so I can have menu bar not take up any of the screen real estate it currently does (and just black out the extra screen when full screen so still no less area or no different aspect ratio than the current Intel 16" screen), I'd find it very hard to complain. Especially considering if this prediction is based on the screen going far nearer the corners, implying a smaller lid, hence the whole laptop is slightly smaller/lighter than the current 16", and I've basically gained a few extra strips of screen space in most cases. Smaller laptop than ever but bigger display than ever (which is what these rumours seem to predict) sounds kinda good to me as long as it's not ruined the feng shui.

Might be bull, but if it is true hopefully half the people here will lose their s**t so the waiting list will be shorter. 🤣

Either way, I'd like it if it comes in some of those nice iMac/iPhone colours. But then I might not be able to decide and go with good old fashioned silver anyway. I guess that was probably an iMac only thing to reflect the originals.
 
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I really hope this explains the 74px increase and not a notch (Courtesy of Max Tech) and it would make sense as the bottom bezel dimensions are almost identical between the 13” and 16” explaining why the increase in size is the same between the models.
 
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I have a lot of doubt about this. At the same time, if Apple had a Notch on MacBooks across the lineup it would be less intrusive than on iPhone. And I don't think it's a big deal on iPhone despite being initially put-off by the idea. Doesn't bother me now.

At the same time, iPads don't have notches even with new 'full-screen' designs. Would be interesting to have super small screens (iPhone) with a notch, medium sized screens (iPad) without a notch, and large screens (MacBooks) with a notch. Why a notch on the largest and smallest sizes? But not on the medium size?

I'm willing to bet Apple can reduce the bezels on MacBooks considerable without having to resort to a notch.

It wouldn't bother me if there was a notch, but I'd be surprised. Ultimately a notch on Mac means the middle of the Menu Bar is taken up. And hardly anyone uses the middle of the Menu Bar.
 
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I really hope this explains the 74px increase and not a notch (Courtesy of Max Tech) and it would make sense as the bottom bezel dimensions are almost identical between the 13” and 16” explaining why the increase in size is the same between the models.

this doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s not like they have to use the same chassis. When they decrease bezel size slightly from one model to the next, its not like they add 5 pixels to the screen. There’s nothing set in stone about the physical size.
 
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this doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s not like they have to use the same chassis. When they decrease bezel size slightly from one model to the next, its not like they add 5 pixels to the screen. There’s nothing set in stone about the physical size.

They would likely have to maintain the physical size to keep the expansive trackpad and keyboard especially with the schematic leak earlier suggesting the function row will also now have full size keys.
 
They would likely have to maintain the physical size to keep the expansive trackpad and keyboard especially with the schematic leak earlier suggesting the function row will also now have full size keys.
But a 14” MacBook Pro doesn’t even exist. There is no size to maintain.
 
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But a 14” MacBook Pro doesn’t even exist. There is no size to maintain.
We definitely won’t know until Monday but I would expect it to scale up similar to the difference between the 15” and 16”. It would be rather odd if they decrease or keep the same size of trackpad and keyboard when moving up in display size.
 
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The menu bar is 44 pixels high, why would there be a 72 pixel high notch?? It would cut in to the desktop.
There’s an entire 16:10 screen below the 74px top stripe that has the camera notch (all hypothetical until Monday, of course). Why do people keep assuming that that top stripe will be part of the menu bar and desktop? Put the entire desktop and menubar below the stripe, in that 16:10 area, you know, like it has been for over a decade, and put ancillary information to in the stripe to the left and right of the notch.
 
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I really hope this explains the 74px increase and not a notch (Courtesy of Max Tech) and it would make sense as the bottom bezel dimensions are almost identical between the 13” and 16” explaining why the increase in size is the same between the models.
All reports are the new models will have an entirely newly designed chassis, there’s zero need to keep the same dismensions as the old chassis, so that suggestion doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
 
The only thing worse than a notch would be 2 notches.

Please no. I don't care about the functions, the aesthetics will kill me, I have to look at the thing every day.
 
If the notch allows for very thin bezels, bring it on. I'd rather have thin bezels for 95% of the area, than having 0% of it.
On a side note, having a notch also means that when you open the lid the fingerprints will not be on the display.
I actually think it's pretty smart, and by looking at the mockup up here, it wouldn't look bad at all.
 
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Just a thought: the "all-black-keyboard" could be a touch screen with physical keys carved into the glass. That would be a screen for touch controls AND a physical keyboard at the same time.
I've been wishing this would come true for years. I hope that time has come!
 
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