so…. you want a macbook air? Just buy a macbook air…if it still ships with a hdmi port just to keep it fat and ugly, bravo apple. another 5yrs of trash going forward.
it must become as thin as the air is now. and it must get rid of the ****** fan.
so…. you want a macbook air? Just buy a macbook air…if it still ships with a hdmi port just to keep it fat and ugly, bravo apple. another 5yrs of trash going forward.
it must become as thin as the air is now. and it must get rid of the ****** fan.
MBA buyers just constantly whine for more at lower cost, which is a dumb boring argument. MBAs already are great value low end devices.Not necessarily. One of the biggest complaints about the MacBook Pro is that the boxy proportions are weird, and it weighs a bit more than some people would hope. On the other hand, one of the biggest complaints about the MacBook Air is the lack of the enhanced screen, worse speakers, etc.
So clearly, some people either want a more powerful MacBook Air or a thinner MacBook Pro!
I've always argued for less at lower cost, which is why I've been happy that the rumours of the A* Series MacBook keep goingMBA buyers just constantly whine for more at lower cost, which is a dumb boring argument. MBAs already are great value low end devices.
However IMO it is reasonable for those willing to pay for high end devices to seek thinner and/or lighter from those high end devices.
Personally I vote for maximum number of TB ports, maximum bandwidth. We can add dongles. Everyone's needs are different and dongles/hubs are stupid easy.
I don't understand why people want both a very high quality screen AND a touchscreen, which will be constantly with smudges. Why a touchscreen on a laptop to begin with?
Meh.
Whatever.
Doesn't titanium heat up? Like the reason they stopped using it on the iphone?I hope they will finally make the MacBook Pro titanium. The aluminum is so cheap and does not feel premium at all. /s
I think if you are opting for a MBP over the MBA, you’ll benefit from the big boost in GPU performance.You are talking the low end and short life cycles, which is fine for some. But this is the high end MBPs we are discussing and likely longer life cycles. Many MBP buyers may not be as sensitive to whatever differences exist between base M4 and base M5 with base RAM since they will mostly be using Max M4 or Max M5 and higher RAM options.
Maybe scrolling on a webpage works for you. That's good. But I never found it easier on a Windows laptop. A mouse under your hand with a scroll button is less work/effort.Speaking personally, I've had Windows laptops that have had a touchscreen and I've really enjoyed being able to scroll through a webpage with my thumb at the side of the screen. Being able to easily sign secure documents with my finger tip has been useful too (ie I actually did a decent version of my signature). Small use cases I now, but I still found them nice to have.
I would imagine the extra cost to build a touchscreen into a laptop is minimal now with the tech being mature, so it's not going to be adding a huge amount to the purchase price. Apple has likely done their research and concluded that enough people would like a touchscreen to make it a worthwhile business decision to employ, along with MacOS becoming more aligned with iPadOS (and vice versa) over the years to make the UX & UI interactions more fluid too.
Most people seem to cope with finger prints on phone and tablet screens okay, I would think the larger part of the Mac buying population will be the same with finger prints on their laptop screen too. Obviously there will some who would prefer a pristine, fingerprint free screen, and that is totally fair enough too
To be honest, just like the video functionality in 'stills' cameras. Just don't use it if you don't like/want it.
After years deeply immersed and generally satisfied with the various MacBook Pro and MacBook Air models, I must say the interest going forward has been dampened.Wherever your expectations are at…
Lower them.
Agreed. The question remains: how much costly and heat producing power do we need "to run some LLM queries locally for privacy or sensitive data protection reasons?"I don't know if we need them, but I do like the idea of having the ability to run some LLM queries locally for privacy or sensitive data protection reasons.
Umm, you missed the /s tag.Doesn't titanium heat up? Like the reason they stopped using it on the iphone?
fans = fatWhy would anyone not want fans? Do you own a modern MBP? My M2 with 96 GB RAM almost never kicks in the fans. Only when really needed, i.e. heavy processing concurrent with really high ambient temps.
except it doesnt have the display of the pro i want.........>>>>...>>>......so…. you want a macbook air? Just buy a macbook air…
I don’t want a separate device to be my main way of connecting to the internet when I am using my iPad or my Mac. Besides, my iPhone gets very hot when I use it as my hotspot for my PC for a long time (1 hour or longer) unless there’s very little internet activity (such as browsing websites).Not sure what you mean by 'extensively', but I've used it substantially for web browsing (never streaming high bandwidth video). In fact, I'm posting this now via my iphone's hotspot.
I don’t understand why people don’t want options? (Assuming touchscreen is a BTO option)
People use devices differently, so it may not suit your use case, but suit others who can hopefully use their Apple Pencil for more than just their iPad.
One can carry just a MacBook Pro instead of two devices.
I don’t want a separate device to be my main way of connecting to the internet when I am using my iPad or my Mac. Besides, my iPhone gets very hot when I use it as my hotspot for my PC for a long time (1 hour or longer) unless there’s very little internet activity (such as browsing websites).
Oh and iPhone battery would take a huge hit from running warm/hot long time anyways.
Cellular tech does evolve but I think for most of uses newer tech doesn’t really mean much for I’d say “traditional devices” (laptop, mobile phone, tablet) other than speed boosts and maybe efficiency boost. I much prefer each device having its own modem rather than sharing with one modem so I don’t have to always carry two devices out and about. My cellular iPad Pro saw tons of use outside independently I will always get the cellular version no matter what. So, if MacBook Pro in the future also have cellular connection it would be incredible. I may not use it, but I welcome the idea to have it depending on how much money Apple decides to charge.cellular technology gets updated you will fall behind vs using a replaceable external hotspot
There's actually no reason why Apple couldn't provide upgrades at a later point in time in a manner that is perfectly compatible. They would simply offer an upgrade service similar to the battery replacement service. They could for example offer to swap out a M1 logic board with a M4 logic board. And it would be much cheaper than buying a replacement device. Absolutely nothing preventing Apple from designing these parts to be compatible across generations so you don't have to buy the same unibody chassis again with the same keyboard and trackpad.Read up on Apple's Unified Memory Architecture, look at the relative performance of MBPs, and realize why upgradable RAM is a bad idea.
A BTO would be difficult unless all Apple did was add a touchscreen. If they did that, you would not have both devices since the screen is still attached to the keyboard, eliminating the Pad portion of iPad. If the screen is detachable, Apple would basically have a reengineered limited production device, something I doubt they would do as it likely would not make enough money to warrant the costs of development and manufacture. It also would make the supply chain more complex for little in return.
So the question remains, what is the value to having a touch screen laptop? How does it make using the device more productive?
The extra dimensionality ("fat") required for fans is a totally valid observation. However what is most important for the [high end] Macbook Pros is the pro performance that must not be compromised even a little. If that means fatter to facilitate fans, so be it. Certainly the fan tech in MBPs has evolved to where it works very, very well.fans = fat
You ask "why are people so adverse to having options?" and the answer is that options cost money and require engineering compromises. Some options require shifts in engineering direction, sub-optimizing other things. And always adding cost. Designers cannot do everything at once.It’s less the touch in the UI, but rather the ability to use with an Apple Pencil for marking up PDF’s. Additionally I sketch out comps and ideas and send them to clients and team members. I’d much rather have a full MacOS and do without extra devices (iPad/Magic Keyboard).
Essentially a Lenovo Yoga 2 in 1 but running MacOS. So the question remains, why are people so adverse to having options?
Yes I know about everything you said and others about USB A being dead. It’s my dream. I don’t believe any of this will ever happen.Read up on Apple's Unified Memory Architecture, look at the relative performance of MBPs, and realize why upgradable RAM is a bad idea.
And I lived through using swappable MBP batteries; no thank you. Today's built-in batteries that easily last a work day are far superior.