16 GB RAM to start out on the 13", as well as a bump in screen resolution, to justify the high cost of the upgrade. A MagSafe USB-C port, leaving in a USB-A port (or at the very least include a USB-C to USB-A adapter in the box) and SD card slot. As for Touch Bar vs. Touchscreen, the lack of a touchscreen on a Mac doesn't bother me, and I never expected Apple to introduce one.
Agreed. How about offering options for 32Gig and higher Ram options similar to PC manufacturers like Dell and lenovo.
Why is it they can't offer that option? I mean, enough is enough; for all the cutting edge changes they expect their customers to drastically adopt, we as consumers can't expect to have the industry norm of RAM options greater than 16Gigs? I mean, for the price of MBP 15, we can get 32 Gig Ram on mobile Workstation laptops such as Dell Precision and Lenovo P50 for examples. These are true "mobile Desktop replacements" as they are powerful laptops and cheaper.
Is that too much to ask from Apple? It's been 2 years and more....time to catch up to the industry people! And stop giving Apple a pass each time - it's your $$$$$ and not their's!
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Remove the touchbar, have a sd card slot, allow 32GB of ram and none of the BS about battery life, and perhaps cut 300-400 from the price.
Thank you. Finally, a logical response here. All other manufacturers have been offering this option for years (on the same Intel platforms) but not Apple even with the hefty price tag for MBPs. It's mind boggling really and it's 2017 already!! Time to wake up Apple and deliver.
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Consumer use? So you think all I am going to be doing on this laptop is Facebook? Or are you one of those that say "these are not pro machines" which is getting very very old.
Such users don't sound like the ones that need a professional-grade machine. Why would they spend the amount of money professional-grade hardware costs when they could buy consumer-grade computers at half that price?
OTOH, if the class of machines which were formerly professional-grade are being downgraded for general consumer applications, perhaps you're suggesting Apple is going to introduce a new line of laptops catering to professionals? The MacBook ProPlus or XmacBook, perhaps?
Because "such users" have no options when it comes to Apple's line of laptops. On the other hand, the MBP 15 is hardly the standard for "professional grade". You're capped at 16 Gig RAM!!!!!! after shellling out more than $2,4000!!!!
It would be nice for more 15 inch MBP options perhaps an entry level one too
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I honestly don't think we're going to see this feature replicated on competitor systems. They already have full touch screens which are just much more useful and an operating system (Windows 10) that's already optimised to use touch.
Apple fell behind here with their laser focus on iOS which has left OS X without being touch optimised, they're at-least 3 years behind Microsoft in this regard. Their competitors don't have any need to add a touch bar as a result.
Lenovo had something similar back in 2014 on the X1 Carbon laptops....just saying
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I actually disagree with this. Most of my friends who have touch display laptops don't/rarely if ever use the touch display. I think for a laptop the touch display is redundant because you need your hand on the keyboard which makes the situation awkward.
That's not what the market is saying. There is a demand for the option for touch screen laptops which is why all other manufactuerers offer that LCD option on premium PC laptops. They are standard on some Lower to mid level PC laptios
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Apple is being held accountable even for problems that are not the result of Apple. I think Apple should've used one of its own AXXX chips to add the additional power people claimed they needed. The other thing i'd note is that most people complaining don't own or haven't used the new MBP and are only parroting what they've heard. The vast majority of the people I've found have loved their 2016 MBPs despite what the tech press and the media have been saying. About the only thing the tech press and actual users agree on is the lack of battery life.
Other companies laptops have these features that are either barely used or novelty at best and then you learn later on that users have real problems with the products that the tech press ignores.
You don't think Apple would have used "their own AXXX chips" if it meant it would cut production costs and save money? Or if they had a better solution and processor of their own compared to Intel's? So who's to blame here? Apple for not having capable indigenous processors or PC manufactures who use Intel processors yet able to offer the higher end Intel chip to work with their design and configurations? Or the fact Apple opted to limit Intel processor options along with other limitations such as 16 Gig Ram cap since 2013?
So they decided to use Intel. Once you make that decision, that's no excuse for Apple to stop being competitive when it comes to Processor and RAM options. How is it every other PC manufacturers offer more powerful Intel processors including Xeon and RAM capability but not Apple?? That's the question here..and yes, they should be held accountable and be asked to explain their reasoning rather than have its loyal customers blame everyone else but Apple itself.