my m1 air can run starcraft 2 p well what are you talking about?
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my m1 air can run starcraft 2 p well what are you talking about?
- In regards to Face ID, Apple said customers love the experience of using Touch ID on the Mac for everything from unlocking their Mac, to filling in passwords online, changing accounts, and making secure purchases with Apple Pay, but the company unsurprisingly said it has nothing to announce about its plans for Face ID on Mac.
What about the spec of the WiFi6 card used?
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New Macbook Pro 14" and 16" WiFi6 Spec?
The new MBP 14" and 16" support WiFi 6 802.11ax wireless networking but I cannot find any specification details and nobody seems to discuss about it... The M1 MBP WiFi only supports 2x2 MIMO 802.11ax at 80MHz bandwidth so 1200Mbps max speed rate. Do the new 2021 MBP still use a 2x2 80MHz MIMO...
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The M1 chip that will be used for the desktop computers, will probably be called the M1 Extreme and will go into the 30" iMac and the next Mac Pro, next year.
This would complete out the 2 year transition cycle.
This would complete out the 2 year transition cycle.
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Which don’t work with Apple Silicon or Intel Macs and haven’t since Mojave was released.
Well it depends. There has been this misconception that eGPUs only use was to replace the GPU of the system and this is not true at all. Some applications like Resolve can take advantage of multiple GPUs and can use up to four eGPUs to power effects rendering. I have seen Macs with four eGPUs that make Resolve scream. Yes it was a ridiculous setup and really loud but the point is even with a powerful internal GPU there are power users that would still like to add a eGPU to boost performance even more.
I have a PC laptop I use for 3D Blender GPU rendering. It has a 2060 internal which really helps the Cycles rendering. I have been considering repurposing my eGPU enclosure on my 2018 Mac mini and getting a 3060 GPU to put in it to help Blender on the PC.
Thats where there can be a ton of power potential of eGPU. Not just to replace the main GPU.
Nice, can't wait to have my 14". I don't do video editing but I love to see hardware encoders being built in the SOC for those who do, this is gonna be a heck of a machine for all type of workflows. Let's hope more and more devs start optimising their applications for apple silicon.
Yeah looking at you What's App, Microsoft Teams, Facebook Messenger and the likes of you.
Yeah looking at you What's App, Microsoft Teams, Facebook Messenger and the likes of you.
for me the egpu would be nice to get around the monitor limitations on the pro chip as well as providing a thunderbolt hub
1 cord for all devices/power/monitors
The current solution involves utilizing multiple inputs to drive the monitors/power. Not as elegant
I doubt they're going to support
I wonder if Apple may eventually offer their own eGPU? Surely they could easily design a graphics only chip, call it the G1
Yeah, really messed up this wasn’t disclosed before orders went live. It’s not like we can wait for reviews to decide what to buy, if we do that it’ll be mid 2022 before we get the machines! I wanted to go for the 14” but grabbed a 16 because of battery life and the back of my mind being concerned about potential throttling. This is worse than throttling though, and totally sucks for anyone who ordered a 14” Max.
Do you really think the GPU built into the M1 simply outperforms any GPU in existence? It will perform well for a laptop but the whole point of eGPUs was supposed to be to give desktop class performance to laptops. That never really happened because Macs never really supported eGPUs (except a very limited number of them for a very limited time and only with external displays).
Agree. I'm not a fan of the sneakiness going on with this launch vs the content of the announcement.
ZERO mention of the 8/14/14 chip existing at all let alone being the default chip. Now we're hearing about high power mode, which is going to upset a lot of folks who maxed out the 14".
No, photos will be up to 1600 nits. On my iPad Pro, SDR brightness is 600 nits, however when I open any HDR content - which includes photos taken with my iPhome - the brightness on highlights goes way up (it really looks good).
There is really no need for anything else to be above 500 nits, with the exception of working outside (and it’s possible auto-brightness raises that even higher). In regular viewing conditions, 500 nits is very bright. In fact, 300 nits is what most users are used to. The extra brightness is for HDR, and mostly for highlights. And thanks to Mini LED, the screen will brighten just on the area needed - for example, playing a YouTube HDR video will be high brightness in one corner, while the rest of the screen is SDR.
Also, for anyone saying “this is just like my old screen during regular content” - it’s probably not. If it’s comparable to the new iPad Pro screen, the colors will be more saturated, and the blacks will be OLED deep. Just this contrast makes even those 500 nits to seem brighter, because that’s how our eyes and minds work.
The new screen is a 120hz ProMotion display with 1000 nits sustained for HDR content and 1600 nits peak thanks to Mini-LED technology.Wait…so the brightness when working on projects outside is still 500nits? Yikes. No difference from my old 2016 then as far as working outside goes
Not only does the old screen not support anything higher than 60hz, but it doesn't support HDR content period because it doesn't have Mini-LED. The new screen is better in all ways at all times and your old screen is a dinosaur in comparison.
So you get the advertised 1000 nits sustained brightness when the light sensor detects a bright environment and the manual slider only gets you 500 nits, just like on the iPhone. Did I get this right? Because the 1600 nits mentioned in the article is not "peak full screen brightness", but just peak brightness.
I need clarification on this one.
I need clarification on this one.
The difference will most likely be small. You’re getting incredible performance in 14” form factor, comparable to a bigger MBP for the first time - that’s amazing. Of course the bigger chassis of a 16” will allow slightly higher performance due to thermals, but this difference will almost certainly be very small.
Let’s be honest, 90% of people here buying an M1 Max are enthusiasts that don’t need half of that performance and would be perfectly fine with a regular M1 or M1 Pro. It’s the same people who claim 64Gb RAM is needed for editing home photos in Photoshop.
Of course, people will jump on benchmarks as soon as they get new machines and we’ll see two results: incredible performance on 14“ and incredible performance +2% on 16”. Of course, the 14” people will be crushed and disappointed with these results and yell how Apple lied and how this wouldn’t happen with Steve and all that. Also something, something the notch.
This is not messed up. It does not totally suck for anyone who ordered a 14” Max. You’re getting 99% performance of the 16” in a smaller chassis. In fact, you’re getting performance that matches or surpasses the biggest, loudest PC laptops when running plugged in, and you’re getting it in this tiny laptop, on battery power. Of course, leave it to these forums to find ways to be disappointed by that.
Most content is SDR (your applications, this window, most videos), and displaying SDR content in HDR mode makes everything look super washed out and horrible on both Macs and Windows machines.
The implementation is the same on both platforms: you have to go in and flip a switch when you want to watch HDR content, and until you flip that switch back to SDR everything but HDR content will look like total trash.
The only reason I'd consider one of the new machines is because that's the only way I can buy an Apple laptop that has a large screen with a high refresh ate, both of which benefit my workflow immensely. The fancy (and expensive) CPU and GPU would do nothing for me.
There was a time when I'd probably have just gritted my teeth and forked over the cash, but every time I have to back up to remove an errant period because my 2018 MBP keyboard thinks I've hit my spacebar twice instead of once (two times so far in this post) I start wondering whether I want to give Apple any more of my money at all. I'd been planning to buy one of the new ones and send this stupid thing in for a new keyboard and be rid of it, but now I'm not so sure.
2016 has a great screen, but it really can’t compare to the Mini LED display on the iPad Pro. The new MBP screen should be like the one on an iPad, so it will be quite different compared to previous gens. You don’t really want brighter SDR, you want those true blacks, richer colors and HDR highlights. It will most likely be an amazing screen.Wait…so the brightness when working on projects outside is still 500nits? Yikes. No difference from my old 2016 then as far as working outside goes
No. My external monitor is HDR-capable. When I'm docked, I have an option is Displays system preferences to enable watching HDR content. If I flip that switch on, the desktop immediately looks like garbage, since HDR mode seriously washes out SDR content (everything but HDR-encoded videos and games). It's the same on Windows. If you leave HDR mode enabled anything that isn't HDR looks awful.
Distance for the Face ID to work is much closer on an iPhone than it would be on the Mac. I always have problems with Face ID on the iPad Pro because it’s too far away. So basically, the tech isn’t ready for the Mac yet.
They're never doing anything with NVIDIA cards again.
Also, if you could plug an eGPU into an M1 device you'd have access to all of its display outputs for hooking up extra screens.
On iPadOS and iOS this is not true, and I believe it’s not true on macOS. The HDR can kick in on on a segment of the screen - unlike on TVs (and I think Windows, too) where the entire screen just lights up. If I open a HDR photo or video in a part of the screen on my iPad - it will be super-bright - while the rest of the screen will be SDR.
I expect it will be the same on the new MBPs.