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New MacBook Pros Have Up to 3x Brighter Displays for HDR Content
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I didn't say there is anything wrong with the claim, just how it is presented. I know very well how HDR is measured, I do it often myself including with NIST certified equipment in labs.
And 3x the blooming because of garbage MiniLEDs attached to an outdated LCD panel technology.
Likely they have set up battery capacity to handle typical sustained brightness level at 500nits for the display. Watching HDR content with brightness fluctuations approaching maximum brightness would normally be brief.
OLED is terrible at HDR. It's the highlights that matter. Not only is OLED brightness very poor on larger screens (such as bigger than a phone size), but the highlights are bad even on phone sized screens which is the most important part of HDR. Mini-LED has none of these weaknesses.I hate that SDR is still limited to 500nits on all of apples miniLED displays, I was really hoping this would be the first computer I wouldn’t have to squint at outside. Especially now that their 13 pro OLED can do 1000nits for SDR. Guess I’ll have to wait another couple years
Especially considering HDR content on macOS is nearly impossible to find. I really hope all the streaming services port their iPad apps to mac ASAP
The Mini-LED Is the Future of Big Displays
The reigning OLED technology will survive only in small displays
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if I had to guess, it's a mix of battery life and LED degradation (longevity). Maybe pushing the microLEDs too high for too long accelerates degradation to an unacceptable rate. The iPad Pro is likewise limited to 600 nits for standard content--maybe they could up the MBP to 600 in a future update (like they did with the MBA). It looks to be almost the exact same screen specs as the iPad Pro otherwise.
Im not sure what apple thinks that hdr is… But taking photos and editing them, i dont need boost in brightness for hdr photos. Something is weird here…
The 1600 nits is for HDR, specifically with Mini-LED (which makes it so that the entire screen is not lit by a single backlight). If you've never watched HDR content before you have no idea what you're talking about.
Fair enough... How do you think they should present it?
Assuming its the same screen more or less as the iPad Pro, PWM is too high to matter.
Notebookcheck did a run down on the iPad Pro screens PWM.
Dithering I dunno.
OLED brightness would be limited to size of emitters, that changes as the display get noticeably larger. Mini-Led is not Micro LED. It is just an array of LED backlit zones enhancing the contrast/brightness compared to edge lit, but it is nothing to a larger OLED screen when the individual emitters can be off resulting in absolute blacks with greatly improved colors/contrast.OLED is terrible at HDR. It's the highlights that matter. Not only is OLED brightness very poor on larger screens (such as bigger than a phone size), but the highlights are bad even on phone sized screens which is the most important part of HDR. Mini-LED has none of these weaknesses.
The Mini-LED Is the Future of Big Displays
The reigning OLED technology will survive only in small displays
Mini-LED negatives are usually observed with subtitles for a video where the mini-LED zones enabled is much larger then the text as a good example.
Because the screen would melt if it had to stay at that brightness for too long. The heat generated is the issue.
This is why I'm upset nothing new was unveiled for Mac mini or iMacs, I would love to get on Apple silicon but I want desktop, the 27" iMac I have is great size and panel.. Imagine the current 27" size with these new panel updates like 120Hz.
For professionals? By some standard of how they measured what exactly. Couple of papers out there including from BBC published by SMPTE. For the average user, stick to SDR.
Yea right, in the meantime the notch is clearly visible in the marketing photo used for this new item. On their website also clearly visible haha.
I agree, miniLED is the correct move for the MacBook not OLED (for now, OLED tv tech is quickly surpassing miniLED for HDR and SDR). But they still could have let SDR brightness reach similar to the levels their current OLED panels reach is all I am sayingOLED is terrible at HDR. It's the highlights that matter. Not only is OLED brightness very poor on larger screens (such as bigger than a phone size), but the highlights are bad even on phone sized screens which is the most important part of HDR. Mini-LED has none of these weaknesses.
The Mini-LED Is the Future of Big Displays
The reigning OLED technology will survive only in small displays
I'm still lost, sorry. The MacBook Pro 13 with M1 SoC? It doesn't have OLED. It's a LCD screen with LED backlight.
Same for me, of course it is available as the Pro Display XDR, but yea, I wish there'd be a cheaper option too 🥲 That display is more expensive than a very decently specced new 16" macbook pro while the display tech specs look roughly the same as this MacBook pro one. It's frustrating Apple never lowers their price, I can't imagine the production price didn't lower for them.
This thread is about the display lol, not the touch bar. I’m sure there is a touch at love thread somewhere people are hanging out in.
I gotcha, so mainly providing more detail? I just didn't see "marketing BS" in their claim, that's all I'm curious about. Giving the 39% window figure and that it's only for HDR content makes it fair, in my opinion. To be clear, I'm not a fanboy. Plenty of other BS I will not hesitate to call Apple out on, haha.
Gonna hazard a guess that they’re referring to the iPhone 13 Pro.