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New MacBook Pros Have Up to 3x Brighter Displays for HDR Content
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I could be wrong, but I think 1 billion colors means it's 10-bit (2^10^3 is just over a billion)
I'd assume that question is more towards "is it a real 10-bit panel" or a "8-bit panel with dithering"?
I count 2496 in the illustration in the keynote video. That doesn't include zones to the left and right of the notch.
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Hopefully HDR blooming is better controlled on this thing because it seems like a work in progress on the mini led iPad Pro, especially in low light no light indoor environments. My Sony FALD led TV just destroys it on HDR content insofar as blooming is concerned and it has far fewer dimming zones to work with.
Because the display right now can't sustain 1000 nits for longer periods of time. It can do HDR at 1600 nits but that means only the brightest parts will be 1600 nits and that means it will be for very short amount of time,
It is outrageous the cost of that display. I refuse to pay that, when Apple can clearly make displays almost as good as that for much, much less. But provides no other standalone display. And the only thing they promote is the LG model which is ugly and dated.
Are you kidding? That's how it's currently measured due to technological limitations.
LG's $20,000 ZX OLED TV is 700nits peak with 150nits full screen white brightness.
It would be nice if they let the screen push above the normal maximum brightness when using the laptop in a very bright environment, like direct sunlight, like the iPhones can.
If you have an OLED iPhone, try it out; set the brightness to maximum. Then shine a bright light on the top of the phone where the ambient light sensor is; notice how it gets a good deal brighter.
They don't allow this brightness normally because it would likely burn in the screen if someone used it all the time.
If you have an OLED iPhone, try it out; set the brightness to maximum. Then shine a bright light on the top of the phone where the ambient light sensor is; notice how it gets a good deal brighter.
They don't allow this brightness normally because it would likely burn in the screen if someone used it all the time.
Keep reading the thread. I've already explained. And what does a LG ZX OLED have to do with it? I have one. It has it's strength, it has it's weakness. If you really want to go large screen (and no, 88" isn't large), then place an order for a Christie Eclipse. For panel devices, the Sony Crystal LEDs are much better (micro LED, no not mini). None of these are suitable as laptop screens or small desktop screens. For movies/TV or studio work, dub stages, etc. sure.
This is done on OLED screens because running the whole panel at 700 nits would cause burn-in eventually. I don't think the backlight on the new MBPs can burn in, so it might be a heat and/or power issue.
That notch though. 🤦♂️
On the MBP overview page as well as the tech specs page Apple only discloses the following:
“Up to 1000 nits sustained (full-screen) brightness, 1600 nits peak brightness”
If this only applies to HDR content (which most content is not), this is a misleading statement. If indeed true Apple should be ashamed of themselves.
“Up to 1000 nits sustained (full-screen) brightness, 1600 nits peak brightness”
If this only applies to HDR content (which most content is not), this is a misleading statement. If indeed true Apple should be ashamed of themselves.
I have an LG C1 and iPhone 13 Pro and strongly disagree.OLED is terrible at HDR. It's the highlights that matter. Not only is OLED brightness very poor on larger screens (such as bigger than a phone size), but the highlights are bad even on phone sized screens which is the most important part of HDR. Mini-LED has none of these weaknesses.
The Mini-LED Is the Future of Big Displays
The reigning OLED technology will survive only in small displaysspectrum.ieee.org
Mini LED has all sorts of blooming issues, especially in fine detail. Good luck getting inky blacks right next to peak bright pixels. Peak OLED highlights look incredible and my iPhone and TV are two of the brightest displays I've ever used. I rarely use them at their maximum brightness.
Even the Pro Display XDR with cooling is limited to 500 nits in SDR
Does this mean that a white on black terminal window will have halos around the text?
If this is the case I'm going to be wary of these machines, because I use those a lot.
That's what I mean... If they're saying a billion actual colors, that by definition means 10-bit, unless they're straight up lying. To my (limited) knowledge dithering simulates more colors but doesn't actually produce them.
If you have the brightness cranked up, I'm sure there will be some halo effect. I wonder if there will be an option to turn off local dimming per app eventually?
You have no idea what you're talking about. OLED being really dim has enough to do with the "size of the emitters". On the contrary large OLED displays have very very poor peak brightness, and thus a terrible HDR experience.OLED brightness would be limited to size of emitters, that changes as the display get noticeably larger. Mini-Led is not Micro LED. It is just an array of LED backlit zones enhancing the contrast/brightness compared to edge lit, but it is nothing to a larger OLED screen when the individual emitters can be off resulting in absolute blacks with greatly improved colors/contrast.
Mini-LED negatives are usually observed with subtitles for a video where the mini-LED zones enabled is much larger then the text as a good example.