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Not comparison yet, but we know Apple's chip is 10.4 TFLOPS, and here you can find more info about the RTX 2080.
TFLOPs alone doesn’t give real life performance comparisons. Just like CPU benchmarks.

Can’t say without proper real life performance comparisons that Apple Silicon provides equal performance to an nVidia 2080.
 
Wondering the same. Based on the selected CPU benchmarks we were shown today, it looks like core speeds are identical in Pro and Max. It’s a big reason I went for the pro; my worst use case for GPU will be 5.7K 360 amateur video editing, which will never touch the insane Max specs and memory bandwidth.
Thinking about it, now I’m curious to know how the FCP’s recently added object tracking behaves on 360 videos (if at all). Looked today at some tutorials and videos regarding object tracker and cinematic editing (I think it’s cool, intuitive and beyond “just” a gimmick) and on M1 it flies… I bet with the M1 Pro editing that will be a joy.

TFLOPs alone doesn’t give real life performance comparisons. Just like CPU benchmarks.

Can’t say without proper real life performance comparisons that Apple Silicon provides equal performance to an nVidia 2080.
I remember some TFLOPs and Geekbench scores alone, M1 vs other discrete GPUs, showed that even if a dGPU was like 4 or 5 times faster than the M1 in numbers when put on a direct game benchmark it would be like 60FPS vs 100FPS or along those lines and not the supposed 4x boost. Unplug that laptop with the dGPU and it all goes even lower.
There’s also the fact that UMA basically means that the GPU can share like 40+GB of “VRAM”, you can’t buy that today on a laptop either.

I do agree that without proper real life performance tests we can’t jump to conclusions but I’m optimistic that it will smoke. Patiently waiting for those MaxTech videos that will flood their channel once they get their hands on them with all these assorted benchmarks (FCP, Premiere, CineBench, Geekbench, assorted game-like benchmarks, etc).
 
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The M1 chips are so powerful and efficient now I wish Apple will take advantage of it and produce a brand new Macbook Air that is lighter than the current one for ultimate portability, 1.0 kg, 15 hour web browsing battery, 14" screen with pro-motion, good speakers, like a bigger iPad pro.

I wish.....
 
The 16-inch MacBook Pro has far more impressive performance than the prior-generation Intel model. It offers up to 21 hours of movie playback and 14 hours of wireless web browsing. The 16-inch Intel machine offered 11 hours of movie playback and 11 hours of wireless web usage.
I could never get more than about 4 hours of work from my 16" 9 core MBP.
 
On the Apple website, they say in the fine print for both the 13 and 14 inch battery stats, "The wireless web test measures battery life by wirelessly browsing 25 popular websites with display brightness set to eight clicks from the bottom."

But the 14 inch screen is rated at 1000 nits, while the 13 inch is 500 nits. I'm not sure how Apple scales the brightness on each 'click', but I assume that eight clicks from the bottom isn't the same brightness between the two units.

So wouldn't this be an unfair comparison, if the 13 inch battery life is being measured at a lower brightness compared to the 14 inch?
 
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Battery life is attributed to the larger battery sizes and low refresh rate displays and not because of new CPU efficiencies. Battery life estimates are more best case for light workloads like browsing. If you continuously run Cinebench type workloads it'll tank the battery like it does on the M1.
 
Basically, the new 14” get 11h of web browsing from a 70Wh battery, while the old 13” intel MBP got 10h from 58Wh battery… The M1 pro seems pretty inefficient… If your workload is light, M1 is the best bet.
 
No doubt the complainers will mention that it's down to the notch that allows the battery to last longer due to the fact it's not having to power part of the screen!! :rolleyes:
Honestly I've seen more posts talking about complainers of the notch than actual complaints about the notch.
 
Basically, the new 14” get 11h of web browsing from a 70Wh battery, while the old 13” intel MBP got 10h from 58Wh battery… The M1 pro seems pretty inefficient… If your workload is light, M1 is the best bet.
But how bright you set the screen has a huge effect on power consumption, and if you only need to set the new MBP to half as many clicks to get the same brightness, then theoretically the real-world battery life should be comparable to the M1's.

I guess we'll find out in a week anyway. They should really being using nits rather than clicks in their fine print.
 
Does anyone know if the new 140w charger for the 16 inch is that big only for fast charging or is that the minimum requirement?

I want to know if it will be okay to be powered by my existing Dell display without causing problems.
 
But how bright you set the screen has a huge effect on power consumption, and if you only need to set the new MBP to half as many clicks to get the same brightness, then theoretically the real-world battery life should be comparable to the M1's.

I guess we'll find out in a week anyway. They should really being using nits rather than clicks in their fine print.
Yes, review will be interesting to read
 
But how bright you set the screen has a huge effect on power consumption, and if you only need to set the new MBP to half as many clicks to get the same brightness, then theoretically the real-world battery life should be comparable to the M1's.

I guess we'll find out in a week anyway. They should really being using nits rather than clicks in their fine print.
I don’t think brightness will make a huge difference. The 120Hz displays are power hogs, I think that is the problem. Based on the huge dual fans it also looks like these CPUs are thirsty. Turning brightness up or down a few clicks might make a 10-15% difference in battery life, but it’s not going to take it from 11 hours web browsing to 17 hours web browsing. The fact that they put in a 20% bigger battery and still ended up with worse battery life (by a lot) is pretty bad.
 
Why on earth would video playback last 6 hours longer than web browsing??
 
The 14-inch model can fast charge over Thunderbolt or MagSafe, while the 16-inch model needs the MagSafe connection for fast charging.
You sure? From Apple's specs for the 16":
  • Fast-charge capable with included 140W USB-C Power Adapter.
That's not MagSafe.
 
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Why on earth would video playback last 6 hours longer than web browsing??

That huge battery number was achieved using video playback on the AppleTV app. So they had complete vertical control there. Content, compression, wifi module, CPU, GPU, battery, drivers, app, OS, etc. I think it's clear to everyone that the number is impossible in other circumstances. But it just goes to show how much can be optimized when one party controls the entire chain.
 
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You sure? From Apple's specs for the 16":
  • Fast-charge capable with included 140W USB-C Power Adapter.
That's not MagSafe.
The power adapter has a USB-C port. That’s what’s the specs are referring to. You charge the laptop using the usb to MagSafe cable. Only the MagSafe port on the 16” is capable of charging at 140W.

 
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