New MacBook Pros only reach 500 Nits on non-HDR content, measured by Notebookcheck

[Macalway]

Specifically, the specs are 1600 peak, 1000 sustained. These are the important numbers, everything else is just settings, subject to change. Why there isn't an outdoor mode is curious, but maybe auto would do the trick.

If not, just complain to Apple and they will do something eventually. Personally I'm fine with the way things are. I have it a max, btw. Some people don't like bright screens indoors at all.

I think peak brightness is an interesting spec.

 

[fa8362]

Unboxed my 16” yesterday. Advertised 1000 nits was a lie. Would have helped with working in the field. Look at the official website - there is no stipulation about SDR/HDR limits - just “1000 nits sustained brightness”.

GPU performance is also meh. Only at the level of a 3050/3060 at best.

Never seen such overpromising and underdevilery from Apple. But you can always rely on sheep defending this crap.

It's not the sheep's fault if you didn't understand the specs.

 

[monkeydax]

Lots of funny comments in this thread about “Apple lying to us” ?

 

[tRYSIS3]

First, what random site is that? Second, go back to the article and at the bottom the "updated" the article stating they were wrong and the MacBook does have over 1600.

That "random site" is literally the most reliable when it comes to notebook reviews... This says more about you than the site if anything

 

[Kylo83]

I was hoping like the iPad Pro mini led playing YouTube hdr would be much better but it’s the same as the intel one isn’t hdr spose to hit 1600nits

 

[tRYSIS3]

New MacBook Pros Have Up to 3x Brighter Displays for HDR Content

Apple's new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models are equipped with improved "XDR" displays with mini-LED backlighting. Impressively,...

www.macrumors.com

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From 8 days ago. You just need to read about what you are purchasing.

This is referring to the Pro Display XDR not the new macbooks, maybe it's you who should do some reading

 

[joelhinch]

In the more info > ‘display’ section it literally says “1,000nits sustained brightness” zero mention of HDR/SDR or a 500nits cap for SDR.

I don’t care what you say, if the display can’t go above 500 nits working outdoors in a word document. I.e. SDR content, the advertising is misleading.

MacBook Pro

MacBook Pro laptop with M4, M4 Pro and M4 Max chips. Built for Apple Intelligence. Up to 24 hours of battery life. Liquid Retina XDR display.

www.apple.com

 

[Janichsan]

This is referring to the Pro Display XDR not the new macbooks, maybe it's you who should do some reading

At the bottom of that article:

Update: Apple has since confirmed that the new MacBook Pro displays indeed have a peak brightness of 500 nits for SDR content.

 

[fa8362]

In the more info > ‘display’ section it literally says “1,000nits sustained brightness” zero mention of HDR/SDR or a 500nits cap for SDR.

I don’t care what you say, if the display can’t go above 500 nits working outdoors in a word document. I.e. SDR content, the advertising is misleading.

MacBook Pro

MacBook Pro laptop with M4, M4 Pro and M4 Max chips. Built for Apple Intelligence. Up to 24 hours of battery life. Liquid Retina XDR display.

www.apple.com

It's not misleading. Nowhere did they state 1600nits on SDR content.

 

[ignaciobarrena]

This is referring to the Pro Display XDR not the new macbooks, maybe it's you who should do some reading

I know. The iPad Pro 12,9 and these new MacBooks have the same display. Both displays are a "worse" version of the Pro Display XDR.

Does anyone really think that these miniLED displays are going to output 1000nits in SDR content? More capable displays than a 5500€ Pro Display for less, yikes.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

First, what random site is that? Second, go back to the article and at the bottom the "updated" the article stating they were wrong and the MacBook does have over 1600.

You have never heard of notebookcheck.net? What kind of random poster are you? Site is legit.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

It's not misleading. Nowhere did they state 1600nits on SDR content.

Are you serious? They specifically didn't say it either. They didn't exactly rush out to advertise a perfectly ordinary but acceptable 500 nits. That 1600/1000 sustained? Plaster that everywhere. It's not our fault if the customer makes an assumption.

 

[fa8362]

Are you serious? They specifically didn't say it either. They didn't exactly rush out to advertise a perfectly ordinary but acceptable 500 nits. That 1600/1000 sustained? Plaster that everywhere. It's not our fault if the customer makes an assumption.

Totally serious. People shouldn't make assumptions...especially ridiculous assumptions. Manufacturers have been playing this game since the beginning of manufacturing. It's on the consumer to know exactly what they're buying and not assume anything. The info was out there.

 

[haruhiko]

Not true have you got it set to auto brightness off, they are both stuck on 500nits for normal usage i compared 2 models with my intel 16 and they are identical

Auto-brightness off is the culprit.

 

[quagmire]

Are you serious? They specifically didn't say it either. They didn't exactly rush out to advertise a perfectly ordinary but acceptable 500 nits. That 1600/1000 sustained? Plaster that everywhere. It's not our fault if the customer makes an assumption.

Totally serious. People shouldn't make assumptions...especially ridiculous assumptions. Manufacturers have been playing this game since the beginning of manufacturing. It's on the consumer to know exactly what they're buying and not assume anything. The info was out there.

Add to this, the line is the classic, " up to". This is why Apple can't get into trouble when they say 17 hour battery life because it is UP TO 17 hour battery life and you can only get 12 hours let's say.

Apple didn't state obviously what will get it to hit 1000 nits, but in marketing speak, they are covered. Like it or not, companies are allowed to market this way. This 500 nit limit for SDR was known since last Tuesday. So spare me this outrage now since a review site confirmed it......

 

[eltoslightfoot]

Totally serious. People shouldn't make assumptions...especially ridiculous assumptions. Manufacturers have been playing this game since the beginning of manufacturing. It's on the consumer to know exactly what they're buying and not assume anything. The info was out there.

Well, good thing for the world, most people aren't you and don't give corporations this much leeway. Are they paying you?

 

[eltoslightfoot]

Add to this, the line is the classic, " up to". This is why Apple can't get into trouble when they say 17 hour battery life because it is UP TO 17 hour battery life and you can only get 12 hours let's say.

Apple didn't state obviously what will get it to hit 1000 nits, but in marketing speak, they are covered. Like it or not, companies are allowed to market this way. This 500 nit limit for SDR was known since last Tuesday. So spare me this outrage now since a review site confirmed it......

Oh I am not doubting the legality of it. I am doubting the sleaziness of it. Very sleazy. And they don't need to it. By all accounts, these macs are legit.

 

[joelhinch]

It's not misleading. Nowhere did they state 1600nits on SDR content.

Nowhere on the product page did they state 500nits on SDR content.

 

[joelhinch]

Add to this, the line is the classic, " up to". This is why Apple can't get into trouble when they say 17 hour battery life because it is UP TO 17 hour battery life and you can only get 12 hours let's say.

Apple didn't state obviously what will get it to hit 1000 nits, but in marketing speak, they are covered. Like it or not, companies are allowed to market this way. This 500 nit limit for SDR was known since last Tuesday. So spare me this outrage now since a review site confirmed it......

It does not say up to. It’s says 1’000nits sustained.

 

[Zdigital2015]

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Even watching hdr YouTube where on the iPad it goes max bright on the MacBook it stayed the same as the intel one

Most likely that is a bug or error in Safari or macOS is causing that issue. I would try different browsers and see if the issue persists. Or install the iPad version of the YouTube app (if they allow it) and see if that has any different result.

 

[quagmire]

It does not say up to. It’s says 1’000nits sustained.

Got to look beyond the marketing material, but in the tech specs.

 

[casperes1996]

So we can kiss good bye those dreams of using those machines to write code in the garden. Great to know I can watch HDR videos at a thousand nits in my dark room, though...

If you really want you can make a text editor that uses Apple's EDR APIs to render the text in 1k nits

 

[eltoslightfoot]

Got to look beyond the marketing material, but in the tech specs.

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Still sleazy to not explicitly state it.

 

[mmomega]

Don't care personally, it is better than my previous model for me. If it wasn't I would still be the older one.

 

[TimothyB]

Got to look beyond the marketing material, but in the tech specs.

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What do you mean, the screenshot still says 1000 nits sustained with no context to HDR (Other than XDR that use to brand the display), the “up-to” is for the 1600 nits. Is there anything on Apple’s official site and docs tied to the new MacBook that say SDR nits?

Edit: I’m a fool and read that screenshot too fast and responded with how I interpreted the specs with the lack of context of HDR being listed.