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The person asked for a single source where Apple said OLED was inferior and I linked it. Here you are making excuses.

Can you actually stay on topic?

Do you think it is wrong that Apple, 13 years later, have a different opinion on the best screen technology to use?

And have you kept your own views on technology completely unchanged since 2013?

That's what I'm asking you.
 
The person asked for a single source where Apple said OLED was inferior and I linked it. Here you are making excuses.

The quote also said "and that nano-LED (not mini-LED) was the future" which I have not yet seen a source for from Apple.
 
Hopefully the rumors of them getting much thinner and lighter are true (without heat issues, due to upcoming efficiencies in the M6 and OLED).
 
More than that, even if they did say, at someone in the past, that Mini was the future, that was in the past. Technologies change. It would be very stupid for a tech company to refuse to adapt if one kind of screen technology advances faster than another.

It's a bit like saying Apple are dishonest because they no longer say SCSI hard drives are the best storage option.
Tell that to the butterfly keyboard.
 
Can you actually stay on topic?

Do you think it is wrong that Apple, 13 years later, have a different opinion on the best screen technology to use?

And have you kept your own views on technology completely unchanged since 2013?

That's what I'm asking you.
I don't care. Someone asked for something simple and I supplied it. Not here to argue the validity 13 years later.
 
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I believe you can go back five years or more and find the exact same prediction.
 
Tell that to the butterfly keyboard.
The Butterfly keyboard was ... not good. And so they changed the keyboard design. What is your point?

Companies change when mistakes are made and/or better options become viable. My point is that this should be seen as a good thing.

Complaining about Apple "changing their mind" and also complaining about Apple no longer innovating makes no logical sense at all.

Changing your mind is essential for innovation. Correcting, rather than repeating, past mistakes is a positive step.
 
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Not sure what I'll upgrade next Fall, the M1 Max MacBook Pro or my M1 Ultra Studio. Probably the MBP as the studio is still burning through most renders in acceptable time.
 
For years, Apple told us that OLED was inferior and that nano-LED (not mini-LED) was the future. Now they’ve deprecated nano-LED project and now they're going to do the same for mini-LED and suddenly claim OLED is the best?
Assuming they're using tandem OLED instead of single layer that solves for the traditional drawbacks of OLED, namely that OLED can struggle to obtain the same peak brightness as traditional LED panels (and require more power draw to do so which in turn raises the risk of burn-in).
 
Assuming they're using tandem OLED instead of single layer that solves for the traditional drawbacks of OLED, namely that OLED can struggle to obtain the same peak brightness as traditional LED panels (and require more power draw to do so which in turn raises the risk of burn-in).

Screensavers and screen off within 5 minutes is going come back into fashion.
 
Hopefully the rumors of them getting much thinner and lighter are true (without heat issues, due to upcoming efficiencies in the M6 and OLED).

I hope that too. They tried to make the laptops thinner and lighter at a time when the technology couldn't support it (Intel chips ran too hot). Now seems to me the time that they can make the laptop thinner and lighter. OLED won't convince me to upgrade from my M1 Max MBP, but a thinner and lighter option would.
 
Can you actually stay on topic?

Do you think it is wrong that Apple, 13 years later, have a different opinion on the best screen technology to use?

And have you kept your own views on technology completely unchanged since 2013?

That's what I'm asking you.

Ridiculous. Are you claiming OLED was good 13 years ago? Because it was crap. Green or blue color casts, potential for burn-in, poor viewing angles, color change over time (a biggie for anyone who needs accurate color like photographers/videographers).

Apple switched to OLED on the iPhone when the quality/reliability matched their standards.

EDIT: meant to reply to the other poster. 😉
 
To Windows users, this is about as exciting as hearing your neighbor finally got a microwave oven.
Well, getting a screen as good as the current one on the MBP would definitely be exciting for almost all Windows users (including those with an OLED screen).
 
Ridiculous. Are you claiming OLED was good 13 years ago? Because it was crap. Green or blue color casts, potential for burn-in, poor viewing angles, color change over time (a biggie for anyone who needs accurate color like photographers/videographers).

Apple switched to OLED on the iPhone when the quality/reliability matched their standards.
No, I'm claiming the opposite.

The other commenter is saying that because Apple said in 2013 that micro-LED was a better bet than OLED, and now Apple are touting OLED, that Apple are somehow being "dishonest"

Which is nonsense.

I'm saying that saying that micro-LED seeming a better bet in 2013, and changing your mind in favor of OLED over 10 years later is a healthy approach.

CHanign your mind is good, because some technologies develop more quicker and get better more quickly than other, and companies should choose the best technology that suits their purposes at that point in time.

You're agreeing with me.
 
OLED screens sound like a nice change but not enough on their own to upgrade from my current Pros. A new physical design (I am afraid I am one of the few that find the current design to be rather utilitarian and industrial in appearance) and Face ID (so they match the convenience of Windows Hello using the camera) would start to make it worthwhile. Lighter 16” models would also help a considerable amount.

Current models are so good it will take a lot to improve them (and the notch does not bother me one bit as they add to the screen real estate, since screen sizes are measured excluding the top line that contains the notch) and my only significant complaint is the weight of the 16” models. My 16” M1 Max remains an absolutely superb machine with excellent battery life and performance , so it will take quite a significant change (as noted above) to make me hand over the cash for a newer model.
 
This feels like Groundhog Day..."Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today." It's cold out there every day...
 
Current models are so good it will take a lot to improve them ...
This. I do wonder what's going to happen. I know a hell of a lot of people with various M1 ( + pro, Max etc.) Macs, and none of them feel they "need" to upgrade. I've a M2 Pro, same thing. Nice shiny tech is lovely to get, but it's difficult to justify an upgrade beyond "I want the new shiny thing!"

Some people obvious do have a need, but I wonder if there's going be a dip in Macs sale at some point, when the last of the Intel Mac users have finally switched and potential Mac users have become actual Mac users.

I also wonder how Apple will cut off support to M1 Macs, because it's very hard to see any technical reason at this point why they would need to do so (other than force people into an upgrade path). The on;y technical reason I could see for it is future version of MacOS completely rely on future versions of Metal, and legacy support is not given to Mac M1s.

The M1 chip were the first generation of Apple Silicon, so I am very curious as to when M1 based Mac will start to be retired by users. And what the actual life-span of the hardware is. Five years in, it hasn't happened yet.
 
No, I'm claiming the opposite.

The other commenter is saying that because Apple said in 2013 that micro-LED was a better bet than OLED, and now Apple are touting OLED, that Apple are somehow being "dishonest"

Which is nonsense.

I'm saying that saying that micro-LED seeming a better bet in 2013, and changing your mind in favor of OLED over 10 years later is a healthy approach.

CHanign your mind is good, because some technologies develop more quicker and get better more quickly than other, and companies should choose the best technology that suits their purposes at that point in time.

You're agreeing with me.

Yes, hence the “meant to reply to the other poster” note I put at the bottom. I replied to the wrong person. 😢
 
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