There were Apple Intelligence files with anHow did “macrumors” identify this?
There is literally zero information other than the identifier, what exactly links the identifier to this rumored Mac? “Can now reveal” and “subsequently confirmed” sure implies a lot more than any of the text suggests, what in the ever loving lack of journalism?
Did Macrumors have a scoop and …not share it? This is such a confusing post.
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.Schools pay about $948 for a 13" M1 MacBook Air with 3 years of AC+ with no service fees.
Apple is developing a MacBook with the A18 Pro chip, according to findings in backend code uncovered by MacRumors.
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Earlier today, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo reported that Apple is planning to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by an iPhone chip. The machine is expected to feature a 13-inch display, the A18 Pro chip, and color options that include silver, blue, pink, and yellow.
MacRumors can now reveal that it first spotted evidence of such a device in backend code related to Apple Intelligence last summer, and subsequently confirmed its use of the A18 Pro chip. The machine features the identifier "Mac17,1."
This would be the first Mac powered by an iPhone chip. To date, all Apple silicon Macs have contained M-series chips, which offer higher core counts, support for larger amounts of memory, and better external display support. The A18 Pro chip debuted in the iPhone 16 Pro last year.
According to Kuo, the new MacBook is expected to enter mass production late in the fourth quarter of 2025 or early in the first quarter of 2026, which situates launch in the first half of next year.
Article Link: New MacBook With A18 Pro Chip Spotted in Apple Code
Apple is developing a MacBook with the A18 Pro chip, according to findings in backend code uncovered by MacRumors.
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Earlier today, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo reported that Apple is planning to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by an iPhone chip. The machine is expected to feature a 13-inch display, the A18 Pro chip, and color options that include silver, blue, pink, and yellow.
MacRumors can now reveal that it first spotted evidence of such a device in backend code related to Apple Intelligence last summer, and subsequently confirmed its use of the A18 Pro chip. The machine features the identifier "Mac17,1."
This would be the first Mac powered by an iPhone chip. To date, all Apple silicon Macs have contained M-series chips, which offer higher core counts, support for larger amounts of memory, and better external display support. The A18 Pro chip debuted in the iPhone 16 Pro last year.
According to Kuo, the new MacBook is expected to enter mass production late in the fourth quarter of 2025 or early in the first quarter of 2026, which situates launch in the first half of next year.
Article Link: New MacBook With A18 Pro Chip Spotted in Apple Code
Nearly all Apple Silicon chips are manufactured by TSMC in Taiwan, not China, with a small share made in their new facilities in Arizona.Hm. Interesting point. Especially if they're having an easier time making A chips outside China than M chips.
My money is still on iPadOS though, given the new developments with windows & menus in the upcoming release.
So, they’re arbitrary choices.“Everything” is arbitrary. iPhones, iPads and Macs have what you call “software restrictions” because they make sense a functional point of view, and sharing chips changes none of that.
Exactly right, they make like what, 10x more iPhones than Macs? Their A chip maker can just squeeze out some more A18 chips, and if these sell well, they can just discontinue and save the cost of making low end M chips and reserve them only for the Pro Macbooks.It's not only about the cost, but about availability and capacity to manufacture.
Most likely Apple is maxxed our M series chip manufacturing. There may be no room to manufacture more chips in the time needed.
A series chips may be manufactured at a different line/plant and there might be capacity to increase production.
Adding to this if this new Macbook (I assume this would be the replacement of the 12" Macbook) is 699 or 799 (200 USD difference to Air) any student will grab it instantly - plus I'm sure Retailer swill offer 100 off would make it a killer base laptop.
MacBook Air is already at $999. I can see $799 or $699. Apple can skimp on other components (slower NAND, limited external display support). Conceivably this is to replace the M1 that Apple still sells at Walmart with one that is officially supported.Yeah anybody thinking this is going to result in a lower cost product is fooling themselves. This is just about thermals so they can make an even thinner laptop.
I have to slightly disagree on this.That 12" MacBook was the best machine Apple has ever made. It's the foundation for the entire place we are now with Apple's laptop lineup.
Considering they sell M1 MacBook Airs for $649 at Walmart I would guess the MacBook would start there.I wouldn’t mind a “cheap” MacBook to carry around and not freak out if it gets scratched or hit, etc.
Question is, what would be considered “low cost” for this type of product.
Because MR didn't immediately link a computer with a phone chip? But it would be interesting to get some background on what MR thought it might have meant and the subsequent thought process.So why didn't you tell us? 🤨
Another Cook product that serves absolutely no one and fragments their product catalogue all for the sake of having some buffer to absorb upcoming iPhone sales short falls. Nice start to 2025 🫠
Now we just need an Apple Cloth with an M1.
Also, since the A18 is in the iPhone 16 pro, they would end up with surplus A18 chips when they move to the A19 for the iPhone 17 proExactly right, they make like what, 10x more iPhones than Macs? Their A chip maker can just squeeze out some more A18 chips, and if these sell well, they can just discontinue and save the cost of making low end M chips and reserve them only for the Pro Macbooks.
In fact, I think that's exactly what they're gonna do
i said under 699 not under 400. Probably 599That doesn't mean that Apple will magically start selling $300 laptops.
If so, this may ONLY be available through education channels and not at retail.Ngl, this seems like a weird idea.
Unless they’re going into the education space again and need to get into striking distance of chromebooks or something.
Guess we’ll see.
Thanks, that context helps a lot.There were Apple Intelligence files with anH17P
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I think at the time publishing about Mac17,1 would have easily let Apple realize where the info came from and they would remove it, and then Macrumors would have missed things like "there will be five iPhone 16 models". But by now they already removed it, so it's no big deal anymore.
Yes definitely this unless they use 100% recycled plastic. They already dropped Leather, hopefully they drop plastic also going forward (at least heavily minimise its use). Apple likes to maintain their clean, environmentally friendly image.I have to slightly disagree on this.
The 12" MacBook was one of the coolest concepts Apple has ever released. And one of the best looking laptops ever, IMO.
But it was relatively useless as a working computer. The CPU - even as underpowered as it was - still throttled wildly whenever you tried anything slightly taxing.
I got one as my work machine, and although it was always the best looking machine, though slightly useless.
That said, with a new, less power hungry Apple Silicone chip, be it a variant of an A chip or an M chip, could be Apple's most awesome laptop, ever. Just make it with aluminium, preferably with the tapered design, and not plastic like the iBooks and MacBooks of old.
BothIt is the form factor or the weight or both? I only care about weight. On the Windows side there are options under 2 lb. Nothing on the Mac side. 11" would be too small for the way websites are designed these days.