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New Macbooks, wrong move Apple...

zer0tails said:
you can't. :eek: We're stuck with glossy/glassy displays people! Sure you could put a crappy piece of matte plastic over the glass, but is not the same. Not even sure how well that works.
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Um my point exactly, you can't and if you did it would look like crap. So why do people keep crying about how their should be a matte option blah blah. Explain to me how you would make a piece of glass matte and I might sympathize with you. Until then shut up already...
 
Why...why...why... are we still talking about no firewire on the new macbooks?

wait a week or two for the next time you get paid and get the macbook pro.


Sheesh...
 
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petvas said:
I have to say that the new laptops are a big disappointment in many ways.
Yes, the new manufacturing process is really great and the laptops look really great. What really disappointed me was the fact that the new Macbooks are much more expensive than before. More than 400€ to be more precise. I really don't get what we get more for all these money...
I found the previous Macbook on Amazon.de for 1090€ and just ordered it. These money get me:
  • 2,4Ghz Intel Duo Core
  • 160GB HD
  • Glossy but not so much reflecting display as with the new Macbooks..
  • Firewire Port..

I wanted to originally buy the new Macbook Pro but I didn't because of the glass. I don't want a mirror and I am not paying 2000 Euro for it...
Please don't tell me that the white Macbook is also glossy. I know that. I had it before and it was ok. I only need a second machine that will be used for basic stuff. I have my Mac Pro for everything else and that's why I didn't buy the old Macbook Pro...

What I don't like about the new laptops:
  • Glossy display + Glass= a very expensive mirror
  • no Firewire on Macbooks
  • the Macbook comes only on 2Ghz and 2,4Ghz. The previous generation used 2,4Ghz for the cheaper model...
  • No higher resolution display for the Macbook Pro
  • No Matte option. That is ok for the Macbook because it is small and you can get around the reflections but it is just not acceptable for the Macbook Pro. Normally I would buy the Macbook Pro (despite the fact that it is an overkill for me) but not anymore. If Apple offers a Matte Option then I will buy it...
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Six months ago we got 1.6 USD for each Euro. Today we get 1.35. Hardly Apple's fault, is it...
 
cantthinkofone said:
Why...why...why... are we still talking about no firewire on the new macbooks?

wait a week or two for the next time you get paid and get the macbook pro.


Sheesh...
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No kidding! I am so sick and tired of everyone complaining about the glossy screens and the lack of firewire. It's seriously annoying. Every other thread is about these two things.
 
petvas said:
What I don't like about the new laptops:

[*]the Macbook comes only on 2Ghz and 2,4Ghz. The previous generation used 2,4Ghz for the cheaper model...

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The bus speed and memory on the previous Macbook was 667Mhz. The new Macbooks have 1066Mhz bus and memory. The CPU speed is sorta moot at this point so your argument is null.
 
CaptainCaveMann said:
No kidding! I am so sick and tired of everyone complaining about the glossy screens and the lack of firewire. It's seriously annoying. Every other thread is about these two things.
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I'd say it's safe to assume that the users affected by Apple's decision are far more annoyed than you are.

The fact that almost every Mac related site on the internet is voicing the same opinions should tell you something.

Only time will tell but I think they got the entire rollout wrong. These units are overpriced in the current economic climate and under-specced for many users (lack of FW and a matte screen option).

I have had to cross a MacBook off my list of purchases for this xmas. It's been replaced by a camera. That's just my personal situation but if thousands more people find themselves in a similar situation, early aluminum MacBook adopters may soon be getting $200 vouchers from Apple.

With the iPhone, Apple's stated desire was to get as many of its phones into users' hand as possible. The logic being that each iPhone sale represented one less sale to its competitors.

Time flies, so let's see how things play out once the initial rush of early adopters have passed through the checkout desk.
 
HLdan said:
The bus speed and memory on the previous Macbook was 667Mhz. The new Macbooks have 1066Mhz bus and memory. The CPU speed is sorta moot at this point so your argument is null.
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The argument is perfectly valid. While what you point out is perfectly correct, it would have been nice to have processors that were also the same speed or faster than the older models.
 
hahah:

Nobody tell OP about the battery/hdd cover problems some people have been having. He might go on a killing spree at apple headquarters.
lol
 
HLdan said:
The bus speed and memory on the previous Macbook was 667Mhz. The new Macbooks have 1066Mhz bus and memory. The CPU speed is sorta moot at this point so your argument is null.
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All benchmarks so far has shown no improvement in speed, so you are mistaken
 
robpow said:
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Six months ago we got 1.6 USD for each Euro. Today we get 1.35. Hardly Apple's fault, is it...
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I am comparing the prices of last week Monday with the ones on Tuesday....The exchange rate has nothing to do with it...
 
cantthinkofone said:
Why...why...why... are we still talking about no firewire on the new macbooks?

wait a week or two for the next time you get paid and get the macbook pro.


Sheesh...
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I would buy it now but I don't want a mirror. The glass may look great but I thought Apple was making computers and not paintings or other pieces of art...
I want to be able to use my computer and not keep trying to find a suitable position to get rid of the reflections...
 
daneoni said:
To the OP you're paying for the Nvidia GPU (will come in handy for Snow Leopard), Aluminium unibody & Glass screen/trackpad.

I personally couldn't stand last gen macbooks with the fingerprint magnet case with sharp edges and terrible screen...but to each his own

...and yes i do think Apple dumping FW was a bad move but at the same time it makes sense as a business decision. Truth is FW lost the battle in terms of mainstream adoption.

My gripe is the fact that Apple didn't add either a 3rd USB port or even a 4-pin FW port but they say there was no more space on the Logic Board. I don't rely on FW, in fact i haven't used it since i owned a 3G iPod so its not really a deal breaker for me but i can see how it would be for others
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Aluminum Unibody is the only interesting feature...but wait a minute: Is it a feature??? Sure it's great technology and makes the laptop thinner and lighter but how does this improve my computer experience?
The glass trackpad isn't exactly a feature here...

The glass screen, well I have mirrors in my house, I don't need another one...That was a bad design decision
 
juanster said:
as dissapointing as they seem to be here for so many people, they are still going to sell a smuch as the older white ones...same as how 3g iPhones sold very well, even tho alot of people were dissapointing and same as the MBA did... don't get me wrong i am not trying to flame the OP, but as dissapointed as so many people are, it won't change a thing... i myself love the new machines (except for the FW dealy) ...
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I am sure they will sell well and I wish they do. I only hope that Apple rethinks about the Matte option...
 
petvas said:
I am comparing the prices of last week Monday with the ones on Tuesday....The exchange rate has nothing to do with it...
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The exchange rate has everything to do with it.

For the prices of Macs around the world, Apple takes the US price and converts it into your local currency.
 
petvas said:
I am comparing the prices of last week Monday with the ones on Tuesday....The exchange rate has nothing to do with it...
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Wait a second, let's think, can it be that they didn't update the prices last week on monday because they KNEW they were releasing a new one on tuesday? They been busy preparing for the new MacBook for the last month or 2 so they haven't had time to update all of their Apple Stores to reflect the exhange rate?

It seems everyone else can use the glass screens, so why can't you? I would guess the problem is on your end, not with the product.
 
petvas said:
I would buy it now but I don't want a mirror. The glass may look great but I thought Apple was making computers and not paintings or other pieces of art...
I want to be able to use my computer and not keep trying to find a suitable position to get rid of the reflections...
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I got a chance to see them in person this weekend. They look very nice and i didn't have a problem with reflections in the apple store.

You can still get refurb macbooks.
 
At least my case is that I won't be buying the new MB to replace my white one. I will wait to see what happens, and well if they don't add a firewire port , I will go the hackintosh way . I study Computer Science ( with software engineering major ) , and I won't have any problems running a hackintosh.
 
MrGando said:
At least my case is that I won't be buying the new MB to replace my white one. I will wait to see what happens, and well if they don't add a firewire port , I will go the hackintosh way . I study Computer Science ( with software engineering major ) , and I won't have any problems running a hackintosh.
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A 14 yr old script kiddie can run a hackintosh though. :rolleyes:
 
petvas said:
The new Macbook has a much better design but the processor speed is the same and I am paying almost 500 Euro less for it..Now the question to ask is if the new design and Nvidia card are worth 500 Euro...
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I can see your point. For me, the graphics card is worth the $300 price bump from the base white MacBook because I play WoW. Losing FW sucks, but I never used it anyway. Just comparing the two models, $300 gives you the aluminum body, Nvidia card, more RAM (2GB vs 1GB), larger hard drive (160GB vs 120GB), more FSB, and a cool new trackpad. If the white model meets your needs and saving the money is important, Apple still provides a MacBook for that.
 
nick9191 said:
The exchange rate has everything to do with it.

For the prices of Macs around the world, Apple takes the US price and converts it into your local currency.
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except that on Tuesday morning the prices were much cheaper...Do you really think that Apple would lose money by not adjusting their prices???
 
Davidkoh said:
Wait a second, let's think, can it be that they didn't update the prices last week on monday because they KNEW they were releasing a new one on tuesday? They been busy preparing for the new MacBook for the last month or 2 so they haven't had time to update all of their Apple Stores to reflect the exhange rate?

It seems everyone else can use the glass screens, so why can't you? I would guess the problem is on your end, not with the product.
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I happened to see a 20" Samsung Glossy Monitor today...The quality was great but it had reflections...I cant stand them! The product is at fault here...Apple should give us the option
 
petvas said:
I happened to see a 20" Samsung Glossy Monitor today...The quality was great but it had reflections...I cant stand them! The product is at fault here...Apple should give us the option
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Again and again people told you that companies can't always listen to all the preferenses from minorities.
 
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