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"New Macs for 2010 are going to take Apple to the next level"-MBA/13"MBP Mega-Hybrid?

Hellhammer said:
There are HDs and controller cards with USB3 but so far no laptops and no motherboards with integrated USB3, only external card for USB3.

2011 sounds right for consumer release (laptops with it, devices with it etc)
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If I'm reading these right, it doesn't look like there will be integrated USB 3 in Intel chipsets in 2011.

http://translate.google.com/transla....html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1

http://translate.google.com/transla...?q=intel+patsburg+sandy+bridge&hl=en&safe=off
 
relativist said:
Not that your wrong, you might very well be right. But if there were an intention by Apple to use this platform, I doubt nVidia would admit it.
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I said that too, but on the other hand, why would they do that? IMO Apple is moving away from nVidia because of issues like 8600M GT

iMacmatician said:
If I'm reading these right, it doesn't look like there will be integrated USB 3 in Intel chipsets in 2011.

http://translate.google.com/transla....html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1

http://translate.google.com/transla...?q=intel+patsburg+sandy+bridge&hl=en&safe=off
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So even longer wait? Any idea when LightPeak could possibly be used in consumer product?
 
bbtrinet said:
I've heard from reliable sources that this is the new redesign of the MacBook Pros:

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Magical
 
You haven't heard? No drives in the new MBPs, and they're coming out in june. . . .

Loaded with OS 4.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(and only 16Gb Flash)

The next level of Apple is the one in which the owner of hardware has to get express permission from the manufacturer to install or use anything on said hardware. Applications or actions not expressly approved by Darth Jobs IN TRIPLICATE are VERBOTEN!

Ok, a bit melodramatic I'll grant you, but the way Apple is continuing to develop their walled garden anti-developer Steel safe closed system is starting to concern me.

It's ok. You don't have to agree with my words, and I don't have to buy their products ;)
 
Why do so many people want to see Apple get rid of the optical drive. All this will do is force the majority of users to go out and purchase a portable optical drive. Even if you already have a portable optical drive then it's just an extra piece of equipment that you have to hook up to your mbp. Why not just keep the optical drive in their, since the majority of software still comes on a disc. Maybe somewhere down the road this will not be necessary, but right now most people have a legitimate use for an optical drive.
 
splashnader said:
Why do so many people want to see Apple get rid of the optical drive. All this will do is force the majority of users to go out and purchase a portable optical drive. Even if you already have a portable optical drive then it's just an extra piece of equipment that you have to hook up to your mbp. Why not just keep the optical drive in their, since the majority of software still comes on a disc. Maybe somewhere down the road this will not be necessary, but right now most people have a legitimate use for an optical drive.
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I have used my drive exactly twice in the last 2 years, both times to install OSX. If they started distributing it on a flash drive, I could throw out every drive in my house. I get my software online, my games on Steam, my music from iTunes/Amazon, etc. I realize some people need a drive, but I will likely never need one again for personal use.
 
splashnader said:
Why do so many people want to see Apple get rid of the optical drive. All this will do is force the majority of users to go out and purchase a portable optical drive. Even if you already have a portable optical drive then it's just an extra piece of equipment that you have to hook up to your mbp. Why not just keep the optical drive in their, since the majority of software still comes on a disc. Maybe somewhere down the road this will not be necessary, but right now most people have a legitimate use for an optical drive.
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because it can allow better hardware in the machine. Hooking an optical drive up via usb is fine for the few times it will be needed. Further more those few times a year would most likely not be on the road.
 
Hellhammer said:
"NVIDIA informs us that there are currently no plans for Optimus on desktops or on other OSes."

From: http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3754&p=2

It's not Windows only, it's Windows 7 only :p
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As far as I'm concerned, that particular statement is in regards to the ION and optimus. The whole article is about the ION technology. When Optimus was officially announced, Snow Leopard support was shown.
 
chopper dave said:
I have used my drive exactly twice in the last 2 years, both times to install OSX. If they started distributing it on a flash drive, I could throw out every drive in my house. I get my software online, my games on Steam, my music from iTunes/Amazon, etc. I realize some people need a drive, but I will likely never need one again for personal use.
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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I use my DVD drive all the time. I rent movies through Netflix or Redbox, and I watch them on my Mac when I'm on the road.

I do NOT want Apple to get rid of the DVD drive. My cheap $1 DVDs will be gone, and I'll either need to rent movies through iTunes, or copy them before my trips to the hard drive.
 
Im seriously sick of apple having at most 2 USB ports in its laptops. Give me 4 USB ports apple, even the m11x has three USB ports.
 
Three words. Ports, ports, ports. Wanna get rid of the optical drive? Do it! It's rarely used and as it's been said, that space could better be used for processing power or cooling or something.

But PLEASE Apple, stop getting rid of all the I/O ports we so heavily depend on! FW 400 is far from dead and yet it's no longer available on any current models! Full size DVI is gone from the books, Express port is on it's deathbed and only the MBPs, not the MB, get an SD slot.

You wanna make your products more attractive? Stop taking the minimalistic approach to the extreme and add some real world usability for a change!

The space you save from nixing the DVD drive could be put to good use with more I/O ports.
 
The 13" MBP could learn a lot from the MBA. However, I believe the MBA would be further transformed if the 13" MBP got more Air-like.

I believe you're correct that the MBA is the coolest Mac ever. Sony Vaio Z is a home run too. I wish Apple could make an MBP that weighed the same as the Vaio Z and even competed in terms of components. The Z is where Apple should take the 13" MBP in terms of components and weight.

I don't know that you're completely wrong, as Apple has used nearly every new feature in the MBA in other Macs later. Apple seems to use the MBA as its launching platform. I wouldn't be shocked if Apple dropped the optical drive in the MBP as it has been successful in the MBA. In addition, the optical drive is dead unless it also has BluRay.
 
Scottsdale said:
Apple seems to use the MBA as its launching platform.
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why do you always say this?

theres only been one iteration of the air. sure they took the unibody and integrated battery from it, but its not like there's been 3-4 iterations of the air from which design cues have been consistently taken from. had they done this, then i would agree with you but basing this on one iteration doesnt make sense.

one data point is not a conclusive data set.
 
I don't foresee them condensing the two, only because the 13" MBP is their best selling laptop, primarily because of the low price. Similarly, the MBA is not meant to be a powerhouse of laptop, more for casual web browsing, email, and document creation (which the iPad is challenging as a contender). Two different markets altogether, and if they were to merge the two it would only be half as good as their strengths as is, now. It wouldn't be nearly as light as the MBA, and it wouldn't have as much functionality of a MBP. Wouldn't make any sense. But then again, we'll see come Tuesday! (or whenever they decide to bless us with updates)
 
bbtrinet said:
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I use my DVD drive all the time. I rent movies through Netflix or Redbox, and I watch them on my Mac when I'm on the road.

I do NOT want Apple to get rid of the DVD drive. My cheap $1 DVDs will be gone, and I'll either need to rent movies through iTunes, or copy them before my trips to the hard drive.
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Can't you use an external?
 
bbtrinet said:
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I use my DVD drive all the time. I rent movies through Netflix or Redbox, and I watch them on my Mac when I'm on the road.

I do NOT want Apple to get rid of the DVD drive. My cheap $1 DVDs will be gone, and I'll either need to rent movies through iTunes, or copy them before my trips to the hard drive.
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ur definitely not in the minority, and you won't be anytime in the next 5 years. Even as apple pushed their users to downloadable content, there will be a need for optical drives as long as people want to burn CD's and DVD's. I-movie and I-DVD would become obsolete if they got rid of optical drives. For those who want a thiner, cooler notebook, get the air. That's what it is there for. The MBP is for those who want a 15" or 17" notebook that is as useful and powerful as a desktop. just my two-cents flame me as u will.
 
aaron4osu said:
I-movie and I-DVD would become obsolete if they got rid of optical drives.
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iMovie doesn't require DVDs and iDVD hasn't been updated much if at all in the last 1 or 2 iLife updates.

aaron4osu said:
For those who want a thiner, cooler notebook, get the air. That's what it is there for. The MBP is for those who want a 15" or 17" notebook that is as useful and powerful as a desktop. just my two-cents flame me as u will.
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I want a notebook with more power than the 15"/17" MacBook Pro, that's why I want the optical drive to be removed and replaced with other components.
 
I just hope they will be released along with the refresh, assuming this is what they did. I'll be so angry if they don't release something smaller than a 15'. >:[
 
puma1552 said:
why do you always say this?

theres only been one iteration of the air. sure they took the unibody and integrated battery from it, but its not like there's been 3-4 iterations of the air from which design cues have been consistently taken from. had they done this, then i would agree with you but basing this on one iteration doesnt make sense.

one data point is not a conclusive data set.
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Apple used the MBA to introduce/test large trackpad, unibody aluminum case, built-in battery, optical drive-less Mac, fewer ports (focusing on wireless connectivity), hidden ports (with port tray), and the thin lightweight design (super thin wedge like design to feel extremely thin due to the thinness of the front of the MBA) future of the MBPs.

As of right now, Apple has moved forward with the aluminum unibody casing, built-in battery, and large trackpad. I would suspect that we will continue to get more features in future MBAs that will be the test platform for the other Mac notebooks.

This is not one data point, and I suspect we will see more changes within an update or two that also reflect the MBA's design and advantages. To anyone that has extensively used a rev 2,1 MBA, the advantages are stunning and clear cut. Apple would be seriously stupid to not attempt to make the MBPs as lightweight and thin as the MBA. In addition, the design elements of even covering the ports via a tray further highlight the beauty and simplicity of the MBA.

I expect we will see more introductions of tech in the MBA that will end up in future Mac notebooks. Could I be wrong, certainly... but it just seems obvious that Apple's vision of future Mac notebooks is the MBA.
 
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