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New 'Magic Mouse 2' and Apple Wireless Keyboard With Bluetooth 4.2 Appear in FCC Filings

Hog Milanese said:
By this comment, I can tell you're either unemployed or in grade school. Every business in the world has people doing big data all day long, every day. If Apple wants to be in more and more of these organizations, they need to provide off-the-shelf solutions, including full size keyboards. Excel, Access, etc. all need a numeric keypad.
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Good point, I didn't think of that. But remember: when you assume...

Also, OS X is not optimised to work with large databases so I'm not sure why the business would not just use PCs with windows.
 
Steve121178 said:
I hope the Magic Mouse 2 is infinitely better than the current Magic Mouse which is by some distance the worst mouse I've ever used. It's appalling! Apple got literally nothing right with the ergonomics or design.
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Really? You never tried to use the clit mouse before that one, whatever it was called? Lucky you.
 
The current magic mouse is awful. The tracking is just plain awful. I love the wired keyboard with the numpad. Not so much for the numpad but because I then have my arrows, pageup/down/end/home/insert/del. Can't do without those with coding.

The non-numpad keyboard sucks ass, not buying that.

I would be interested in a MM2 that didn't have terrible tracking.

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Taz Mangus said:
Yes, I have seen those and I have thought purchasing those. The problem with any of those they need some sort of attachment device or they need to be detached to replace the batteries and then reattached again. And when they are attached they still look like they don't match. So now I need to spend more money to find something to attach the 2 pieces together. Not what I am looking for.
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Taz Mangus said:
Yes, I have seen those and I have thought purchasing those. The problem with any of those they need some sort of attachment device or they need to be detached to replace the batteries and then reattached again. And when they are attached they still look like they don't match. So now I need to spend more money to find something to attach the 2 pieces together. Not what I am looking for.
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There is no connector on mine - it fits perfectly on the edge and looks 100% like its supposed to be there. It was the first extra i purchased for my IMAC

http://www.lmp-adapter.com/en/products/keypads/lmp-bluetooth-keypad-wkb-1314
 
Cartoonkid said:
One keyboard does not fit all applications.
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Absolutely true.

I'm merely asserting that the usefulness of the numeric keypad for most people has diminished in the past decade or two, not that it's entirely gone.

Analog Kid said:
I would think that if anything was becoming irrelevant in 2015, it's needing space to the right of the keyboard to keep a book or paper. Entering numbers isn't specialized-- you just don't use the number pad for it. But I guarantee you enter numbers-- such as "2015"...
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Hence why I wrote "inputting primarily numeric data is, increasingly, a specialized task", not "inputting numbers is, increasingly, a specialized task".
 
chucker23n1 said:
Absolutely true.

I'm merely asserting that the usefulness of the numeric keypad for most people has diminished in the past decade or two, not that it's entirely gone.



Hence why I wrote "inputting primarily numeric data is, increasingly, a specialized task", not "inputting numbers is, increasingly, a specialized task".
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When I type in numbers - which is often the key pad to the right is much more efficient then the numbers across the top.
 
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Soccertess said:
Let's hope for wireless charging!
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Here you go!
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-solar-keyboard-k750-mac

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Analog Kid said:
Why do you need to be a cashier to use a number pad? I use it even when I just need to enter a zip code or a credit card number...

[To paraphrase a former boss of mine, "Just because Frost said it, doesn't mean it's wrong."]
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Really? That seems like a very inefficient process to me, since the number pad is separate from the regular keyboard which means you will have to at least move your hand over if not also look at it (and Canadian postal codes are alpha-numerical, so that would be even worse).
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
When the existing Magic Mouse runs low on battery, it sure is nice that downtime is only the length of time it takes to swap 2 rechargeable AA batteries for the 2 that are drained (no more than about 30-60 seconds). While the Lithium option probably means a much longer time between charges, I hope that one doesn't have to swap mice when they forget to charge it when it's close to empty... or more regularly monitor for "low battery" so you can catch it on the day before it is going to be exhausted.
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I have two Logitech re chargeable mice and keyboards.. the first year were OK but now that they are pain for the reason you stated :( I like to replace batteries or at least make it easier to replace the pack when they are dead..
 
Cartoonkid said:
My guess is that 99% of the people you know are not accountants. :)

I'm a decent typist, but when crunching numbers without a keypad, I look like I've got 10 thumbs. So for bean-counters and the like, nothing beats a keypad.
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I don't doubt that there are very fast typers on number pads. I've just been used to the number row and blow most people I know away with it, I tried the num pad, didn't like it. It doesn't really matter, I guess as long as other keyboards are optional, Apple doesn't really need to cater to specific groups anyway.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
When the existing Magic Mouse runs low on battery, it sure is nice that downtime is only the length of time it takes to swap 2 rechargeable AA batteries for the 2 that are drained (no more than about 30-60 seconds). While the Lithium option probably means a much longer time between charges, I hope that one doesn't have to swap mice when they forget to charge it when it's close to empty... or more regularly monitor for "low battery" so you can catch it on the day before it is going to be exhausted.
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Or they'll just handle it like my current logitech k800 and warn you in time to connect it to charge. Drama-free, as disappointing as it probably will be for some...
 
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cube said:
Does the trackpad click? I can tap...

I was also not a fan of polluting Apple's aluminium aesthetic, but it doesn't really look bad.
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Ah, yes. The Magic Trackpad does click, but at the bottom. No problem with the Clique. I have disabled tap-to-click now. Thanks.
 
chucker23n1 said:
I'm merely asserting that the usefulness of the numeric keypad for most people has diminished in the past decade or two, not that it's entirely gone.

Hence why I wrote "inputting primarily numeric data is, increasingly, a specialized task", not "inputting numbers is, increasingly, a specialized task".
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What do you think people were doing 15 years ago that they aren't doing now? And what is the difference between "primarily numeric data" and "numbers" other than the extra words and font face?
 
iZac said:
oh err - this could be a wedge shape, but I have a sneaking suspicion that this keyboard will lay flat.

The best part about the current one is the design restriction of the AA batteries, creating the drum shape. It's both a beautiful example of form following function and elevates the keyboard to make it more ergonomic.

I hope this new model can 'elevate' the design :)
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Hopefully they will design it with flip-out feet, so that it will still have the same angle as the current model, but be slimmer and lighter when packed in a bag.

If it's completely flat, it's an automatic no-buy for me.
 
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cube said:
Because you don't want Windows?
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Sorry, but Access and Excel just work better on PCs. Anyone who works with them all day knows that. I use macs at home, but if I had a choice at the office, I'd NEVER pick a mac, because I develop in Excel, and Excel for Mac is a kiddie version (and so painfully slow) compared to the PC version.
 
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dec. said:
Really? That seems like a very inefficient process to me, since the number pad is separate from the regular keyboard which means you will have to at least move your hand over if not also look at it (and Canadian postal codes are alpha-numerical, so that would be even worse).
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In truth, I don't send a lot of mail to Canada...

I don't have a lot of support for this, but I think the reason the number pad is more effective for a lot of people is that it places all of the numbers under the 3 strong fingers and the zero under the thumb. If I have to enter a 3 digit number in the middle of a sentence, I use the top row. If the number of digits starts to get much longer though, I either need to look down, or move my had over to the number pad and back. Get out to about 10 digits and the number pad is a clear winner for me. If I'm entering numbers on a web form, then I'm going back and forth to the mouse generally anyway, or my left hand is on tab and the right hand on the pad.

My zip code is so ingrained in muscle memory for me that banging it out on the numpad is almost a single gesture (and it's the end of the entry, so moving my hand isn't a problem).
 
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flur said:
Hopefully they will design it with flip-out feet, so that it will still have the same angle as the current model, but be slimmer and lighter when packed in a bag.

If it's completely flat, it's an automatic no-buy for me.
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I'd have a hard time adjusting to flat. I'd also be bummed if they try to make it ultra thin and portable like the Macbook Pro keyboard. A good desk keyboard is more important to me than a travel keyboard.

Are you packing it in a bag to use with an iPad or something?
 
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