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i got a keyboard *and* mouse, both wireless, and the mouse is optical, for 100, and they look pretty ok...if you don't mind all those stupid internet buttons :D

I don't know how people can stand trackballs. I always got my fingertips caught in the corners and it would pull my skin. not to mention it was really hard to do gfx work
 
Originally posted by Choppaface
i got a keyboard *and* mouse, both wireless, and the mouse is optical, for 100, and they look pretty ok...if you don't mind all those stupid internet buttons :D

I don't know how people can stand trackballs. I always got my fingertips caught in the corners and it would pull my skin. not to mention it was really hard to do gfx work

Yeah I can't stand TBs either. But they take up less space and can be used more accurately..
 
I like the pads myself. Mouse gives me carpal type pain no matter how softly I hold it. I'd like a wireless keyboard with pad or ball built in. That would eliminate two cords and one device and free up one USB.
 
Apple should make a wireless, battery-free mouse. They could make it use kinetic energy like those watches That would be cool.
 
Apples bluetooth page lists some possible bluetooth enabled devices, notably a mouse and keyboard.

http://www.apple.com/uk/bluetooth/

Look under the heading Bluetooth Devices, and you will see keyboard and mouse are mentioned.

My betting is that they are moving towards wireless devices such as these.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: bluetooth

Originally posted by Pelorus


No, in the UK it's the plural of mouse (the electronic kind).

Honest.

If mice pluralises to meeces, does that mean that the plural of face is faeces?

Is that what they mean when they say of someone who is drunk:"he's sh*tfaced!"

As for Bluetooth - its the wow equivalent of turning off houselights using your computer, or making your hairdryer operate your doorbell.
Who needs it?

Wireless mice? I laready have one built in on my Pismo - its called a trackpad.

Bluetooth = Louis 14th phone cover.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: bluetooth

Originally posted by elgruga
As for Bluetooth - its the wow equivalent of turning off houselights using your computer, or making your hairdryer operate your doorbell.
Who needs it?

Wireless mice? I laready have one built in on my Pismo - its called a trackpad.

Bluetooth = Louis 14th phone cover.

ok that first stuff was pretty funny. i always thought the plural of mouse was mouses. its only the rodents tht get the weird mice thing.

but as for bluetooth. just like airport you could say bluetooth is not necessary. i can get a 50 foot long ethernet cord and go anywhere in my apartment. and there are always longer cords. why do i need airport.

wires are a pain.

bluetooth = simplicity.

apple loves simplicity. if bluetooth will allow apple to sell a mac that you take out of the box set on the desktop and plug in and go then id say it is worth it. dont make the people plug in mice or keyboards. dont make people fumble around behind their machine everytime they need to plug in a pda or other device. they just go. thats a lot simpler.

and if you want to forget about desktop systems and talk about your laptop. bluetooth has purpose there too. you can have your laptop tucked away in your luggage beneath your seat or in the overhead compartment and still use your headphone to listen to music while on the plane. and if you are the type of laptop user who is always using printers at different places imagine if they were all bluetooth and you didnt have to carry a usb cable with you anywhere.

and i have to mention it because i know it will make so many people groan. the best place for bluetooth is in a pda. synching it with you laptop, cellphone, headphones, etc. it becomes wirelessly your remote control and remote terminal to meet all your demands. with a pda cellphone team you could make cellphones incredibly small by eliminating the lcd screen and dial pad, allowing the pda to take these functions by wirelessly snyching with the pda via bluetooth.

bluetooth is simplicity. cant do anything new, but you can do a lot of things with less hassle. no cables to carry around or be constantly swapping around. less ports taken up. its just a quick little convienence that is typical apple style. apple needs to incorporate it into the mac soon, and maybe this third party adapter is a sign of things to come.
 
Wireless Mouse = Batteries, My Friends...

I know the idea of wireless mouses (meeses or whatever) is tempting, but let's think about this one a little bit more.

1) BATTERIES! Let's think now... Wireless mice will have NO power supply. SO, they'll likely use AA or AAA batteries, both of which are things one must buy over and over again. I do recognize the idea of rechargeable batteries, but who is going to pop out the AA or AAA from your mouse and throw it into a charger every day? (oh, and for those of you out there about to mention the rechargeability of the Lithium Polymer battery in the iPod, in order for that to recharge, you'd need a power source. This could be a simple cord, or a docking station. BUT, hmmm... does this not sound like defeating the point of wireless?)

2) Wireless Mouses via Bluetooth use the 2.6ghz range of frequencies. Many Cordless phones (at least in the US) now sport this frequency as well.

I'll wait until I can buy a wireless mouse with wireless power transmition as well... :)
 
A mouse is a mouse.. Oxford doesn't distinguish between computer and animal *mice*.. lol

Now a more pointed question.. since this whole wireless mouse and battery changing thing is making me itch.. do computer mice have digital fleas???
:eek:
 
Everyone is saying that cordless mice will be a pain because they need their batteries changed every so often. Well, why couldn't Apple just follow the lead of the cordless phone and run the mouse off a rechargable battery, and then ship a charger unit with every mouse (or mount a charger somewhere on the keyboard/monitor/computer)? Then you'd never have to worry about batteries; just stick the mouse on the charger when you're done with it. I'd imagine with the right battery even optical mice could get dozens of hours between charges.

Alex
 
New keyboard and mice will dock

The new systems that have the wireless keyboard and mouse have a neat docking station that you just slide the mouse into when you are done and it will recharge.

The keyboard docks onto the sort of post that extends out of the bottom of the case, when docked it semi-locks into place with a simple, but solid, click.

A new button on the keyboard makes the docking post appear from the bottom of the case - there is also an alternate dock on a cable for systems too far away from the case. You only need to connect it once a week at most.

These new devices are going to be for both the PowerMacs and the iMacs.

When, mid-next year for the cases end of the year for the mouse.

Quark
 
Quark nice dream but it seems a little complicated for apple.

all of the wireles mice ive used use a battery like a watch battery. the mouse uses so little energy these will typically last about a year before going dead. and since the mouse glows you know when its dead. also most of the mice come with a backup battery so you really get like 2 years of battery life. i think that is simple enough. but i suppose apple could come up with a better battery than a watch battery that would last the life of the machine.

a lot simpler than rechargers and silly ports and what not. i mean with all that id rather have a simple cord.
 
Re: clie

Originally posted by sprescott1974
What is interesting is that someone said that Steve synched a Sony Clie through bluetooth. Does this mean we are finally going to see: 1. OSX PDA compatibility (Iknow palm desktop for OSX is inthe works but I haven't heard anythign good about it yet) and 2. Clie OSX compatibility (since up until now syncing a MAC with a Sony PDA has required a hack)?

Who needs an Apple branded PDA when you can use a Sony Clie as your organizer? Don't say Handspring either because Clie is a far superior piece of hardware.
That would be a pleasant thought. Still, now that OS X Palm Desktop is officially out, it should only be 3-4 weeks 'til The Missing Sync for OS X comes out allowing (tho it's a hack) Clie compatibility w/ OS X.

blakespot
 
remember that troll who came on as different people and rumored a two key apple keyboard?

in microsoft school, there was this "joke" poster which showed the three button windows keyboard with the keys, "control-alt-delete" on them which are so useful for windows after a typical windows crash

windows 3.1, 95a, ME, and 2000 should have all shipped with an extra three button windows keyboard

windows 98 is somewhat ok and it is the only windows version i still use
 
RE: iPod-like keyboard.

I hate to say it but it does have some credibility:

(hear me out on this one)

If Apple (Big "If" coming up) does do a 3D Finder reminiscent of the "3D OS X" demo than a touchscreen w/ handwriting recognition and an iPod-like control surface could replace the whole Keyboard/mouse setup. A true GUI.

Flame away.........;) :D :p
 
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