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If I remember correctly there is a park included in the plans, it would be cool if it's open to the public. Also will there be a gift shop like, the current hq?
 
Now, you'd advocate for typical High-end building standard. Well, that also goes on forever. What does that mean??

What I mean by "typical" is using generally accepted practices and materials. On the other hand, using materials and techniques that have rarely or never been done before, and that provide benefits that are questionable at best, is one of the hallmarks of hubris.

If you go to a luxury home builder and pick all your items out of their catalog, you'll end up with a nice luxury home. If you demand they throw out the catalog and you'll tell them what to do in incredible minute detail and it's nothing that either of you have experience with... that's where you start to have problems.

Is it too much to give Steve Jobs a new SL 500 Mercedes every 6 months? Isn't that detrimental to shareholder value? But Apple did.

My point is, often times (and I know that I'm guilty of this too) we think that things exist for a singular purpose. And more often than not, they're not. Apple is a public company. But its purpose is not JUST to create shareholder value.

More straw man arguments. I have no problem with such a paltry expense, and I don't think Apple's only purpose is to create shareholder value. Perhaps you meant to respond to someone else.

Anyway, I'm done here. Feel free to provide more examples of small expenses that I of course have no problem with in the first place, since it's only the multi-billion dollar overcharge that I complained about.
 
Anyway, I'm done here. Feel free to provide more examples of small expenses that I of course have no problem with in the first place, since it's only the multi-billion dollar overcharge that I complained about.

are you always this defensive? lol its just a discussion no need to get your knickers in a knot...I'm honestly not trying to attack you.

but back on topic...you obviously missed my point. the multibillion overcharge consists of the aggregate of all those 'small' expenses I noted.. it's not like there's 1 super expensive item that left the building with a billion dollar over charge...there isn't like a 2 billion dollar fusion reactor core in that thing you know... (or maybe there is..? thats why it's doughnut shaped... :O)

hence why I say where does it end?? And by the way, there isn't a 'catalog' for a custom multi-storey mega-office. you cant just pick and buy the materials from Home Hardware and be done with it. When you get up to this scale, everything is 'custom'...
 
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I see a lot that I like and a lot that I would prefer Apple took a different approach at.

By the look of things it seems that Apple thinks the AI car is a far far future away.

If the idea is thinking green then planning huge parking spaces seems like a lot of waste for my perspective.
A. Cars take up lots of space in our streets. They also make the streets unsafe. (because people are still behind the steering wheel)
B. Cars are designed to break easily and the bills are a pain in the. We don't wanna own cars we just wanna use them when needed.
C. The resources needed to get these slurpy things going when you press the pedal are very wasteful to our habitat.

Don't build a gigantic place and stick some plants too it and cover up when if you want take out the problem that started it then bring transportation up to date with todays and upcoming future technology.

People need cars as their transportation I get that. (I use a car as well)
But can we simplify transportation in the sense that it reduces production, taking away the minimum amount of resources, reducing the streets with the total amount of cars needed. Give everybody the best transport when needed while it doesn't need them to go from point A to B and hitting the breaks when needed? Can we do that? Can Apple do that? I would love to see them try. :)

Please Apple start pushing for AI cars so we can dispose 90% of all transportation on the road today and making the world a much greener and better looking place. A must saver place as well. Design and build the tools that are truly necessary. Be bold, be insanely great, be green, think out the box, set the bar high and even higher then that. :apple:
 
The smartest person in all this will be the one that manages to build a pizza place within walking distance. That's where people will escape to, to find familiarity and comfort in a building made with bricks and wood, and to draw stuff on greasy beer-sodden napkins.
 
"... at one point in the day you may be in offices on one side of the circle and find yourself on the other side later that day."

No average building with corners could ever offer that sort of experience...
 
Brilliant misdirection.

The inflatable doughnut cushion building looks to be (depending on the photo distortion) one tenth the volume of campus.
Methinks the other buildings might be the more interesting.
 
What I mean by "typical" is using generally accepted practices and materials. On the other hand, using materials and techniques that have rarely or never been done before, and that provide benefits that are questionable at best, is one of the hallmarks of hubris.

If you go to a luxury home builder and pick all your items out of their catalog, you'll end up with a nice luxury home. If you demand they throw out the catalog and you'll tell them what to do in incredible minute detail and it's nothing that either of you have experience with... that's where you start to have problems.

Two things:
a) The "not so typical" style has been tried end evolved with nearly every Apple Retail Store. So basically if you had your ordinary HQ Campus you'd destroy your corporate identity marketing wise. A major letdown for shareholders.

b) With going solar and maybe incorporating fuel cells Apple will work much more energy effective than they are now. Just think about how much electricity this thing needs. OTOH they can test and deploy broad scale OS X based solutions for energy efficiency and facility management in combination with going solar. Current main contender in this area AFAIK is IBM with SmartGrid. And any long-time invested shareholder knows, that the writing is on the wall: SmartGrid, renewable energy and intelligent individual transportation (meaning autonomous cars) are the milk cows of the next two decades. You think Google builds these cars just for fun?

Think of a campus based autonomous driving experience with electrically operated cars running OS X. They are in a private and pretty locked down area. Maybe partner back with Woz and get autonomous Segways on the way. Would that kind of R&D benefit you as the shareholder?
 
Did that screencap come from a VHS tape?

;)
Here's the best screencap I could find.

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Do we know who's moving into this new building and who is staying at 1 infinite loop?
 
I am surprised about the parking, I would have thought they would only allow public transport such as trains to access the campus. This would be the "green" thing to do anyway...
 
"The concept of the building," said Oppenheimer, "is collaboration and fluidity. It'll provide a very open-spaced system, so that at one point in the day you may be in offices on one side of the circle and find yourself on the other side later that day."

I had to laugh when I read this. From recent publicity, it seems that this is the exact opposite of how things work at Apple, where most projects are locked-down, compartmentalized and highly secretive.

Still, gotta go with the buzzwords in interviews.
 
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