tkidBOSTON
macrumors 6502a
Best part, they're even running the ad on CNET's Vista Page:
http://www.cnet.com/windows-vista.html
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jonharris200
macrumors 6502
The ad clearly isn't working the whole time - sometimes just the top banner appears, other times, the two ads are not in sync.
But when it works, it is very, very funny!
But when it works, it is very, very funny!
I am still laughing! The only suggestion I would have had to the ad company that made this is; instead of a 'Staple' style red button, PC guy should had his PC laptop hooked up to start the lights on the banner. Then cursed that Vista was missing the correct driver! 😀
bpd115
macrumors 6502a
Huh?
I have a core2duo Mac Mini at work (they let me pick out my workstation) and I can print to any shared printer on our print server and I can print to a Richo MFP unit using an IP Printer port.
Sounds like networked printers to me.
Alien technology...
"Leopard sucks"?? Wow... you must be waiting for nano tech to be embedded in your brain that will allow you to work at the speed of thought, without any physical input devices, and injected with super advanced alien technology to allow each brain cell to act as a core processor making a single human brain a walking ZetaFLOP supercomputer.
Apple is progressing Leopard very well and building a solid foundation for the future. This stuff is incredibly complex and takes time dude. No one else, in the entire world, has so far done it better than Apple.
"Leopard sucks"?? Wow... you must be waiting for nano tech to be embedded in your brain that will allow you to work at the speed of thought, without any physical input devices, and injected with super advanced alien technology to allow each brain cell to act as a core processor making a single human brain a walking ZetaFLOP supercomputer.
Apple is progressing Leopard very well and building a solid foundation for the future. This stuff is incredibly complex and takes time dude. No one else, in the entire world, has so far done it better than Apple.
I'm a huge Mac fan, but unfortunately I'm rather disappointed by Leopard and I ended up reverting to Tiger. So I guess it cuts both ways.
Popeye206
macrumors 68040
I hate to say it, but every time I've seen where a shop has problems with OSX is because the IT guys are too Windows oriented. They don't know how to set up or troubleshoot a Mac. I've been in many mixed shops and it never fails, the IT guys complain about the Macs not doing this or doing that and when it comes down to it, they have designed the entire network on Windows machines and keep trying to make the Mac's do Windows and over think the problems/solutions. I don't know this writers background or his organization, but I would guess the IT department is very Windows knowledgeable and were forced to add some Macs... try getting a true Mac guy in there to consult and I think you'll see a huge change in stability.
Very clever
The way they take two separate (and usually unrelated) elements of a typical web page and join them gives them an opportunity to make uniquely memorable message.
I think whenever an organization communicates in an original manner, they get a "callback" whenever imitators use that means. I don't care what blimp I see, Goodyear always crosses my mind when I see one! Hopefully, this means that when someone runs a multi-panel web ad, people will harken back to this Apple one.
It's great.
The way they take two separate (and usually unrelated) elements of a typical web page and join them gives them an opportunity to make uniquely memorable message.
I think whenever an organization communicates in an original manner, they get a "callback" whenever imitators use that means. I don't care what blimp I see, Goodyear always crosses my mind when I see one! Hopefully, this means that when someone runs a multi-panel web ad, people will harken back to this Apple one.
It's great.
Leopard vs Tiger
Well... I'm not without some glitches in Leopard. I did find on a few machines where I performed the "Upgrade" choice it was VERY buggy. Once I did the "Archive and Install", everything was MUCH more stable. Also, I've already noticed much better stability/reliability with the 10.5.1 update. One glitch I'm still having on my MacBook Pro is that the hot corners for the screen saver activation don't work sometimes. I have to restart the computer to get them to work. That's pretty minor though.
The part about Leopard that I'm really most excited and impressed with is under-the-hood. Apple really made some great progress with a number of core technologies as well as build a solid foundation for developers to come out with some great software in record time. UNIX certification is a BIG plus. The finder is MUCH more responsive than previously. I connect to network drives in less than a second and multi-tasking/multi-threading is way better. Network printer support is great (and fast too) no matter what others are saying. If you're having problems with network printer, there is something wrong with your set-up or the way IT has implemented the network and/or printers.
OpenGL is a lot faster and the 64bit full support will be a welcome addition once Cinema4D and other high-end apps I use get updated.
The screen sharing and integration throughout the system (like iChat) is excellent and I absolutely LOVE QuickLook!
All the other 300+ additions Apple mentioned are nice too. ;-)
Well... I'm not without some glitches in Leopard. I did find on a few machines where I performed the "Upgrade" choice it was VERY buggy. Once I did the "Archive and Install", everything was MUCH more stable. Also, I've already noticed much better stability/reliability with the 10.5.1 update. One glitch I'm still having on my MacBook Pro is that the hot corners for the screen saver activation don't work sometimes. I have to restart the computer to get them to work. That's pretty minor though.
The part about Leopard that I'm really most excited and impressed with is under-the-hood. Apple really made some great progress with a number of core technologies as well as build a solid foundation for developers to come out with some great software in record time. UNIX certification is a BIG plus. The finder is MUCH more responsive than previously. I connect to network drives in less than a second and multi-tasking/multi-threading is way better. Network printer support is great (and fast too) no matter what others are saying. If you're having problems with network printer, there is something wrong with your set-up or the way IT has implemented the network and/or printers.
OpenGL is a lot faster and the 64bit full support will be a welcome addition once Cinema4D and other high-end apps I use get updated.
The screen sharing and integration throughout the system (like iChat) is excellent and I absolutely LOVE QuickLook!
All the other 300+ additions Apple mentioned are nice too. ;-)
When I tried to view it, I had to refresh 3 times to get it to play properly...
...but aside from that I really can't believe the number of responses on here praising Apple for being original with this. These kind of ads (2 flash banners interacting with each other) have been around for years and there are much better examples out there than this.
Stampyhead
macrumors 68020
Yeah right, you really think MS is going to stop developing Office for Mac just because Apple pokes a little fun at them? They've cornered the word processor/spreadsheet/presentation software market. They're not about to just give up a part of it.
That being said, I installed iWork on my Mac and found I don't really need Office anymore. Sure there are things it can't do yet, but for casual users like me it's more than adequate.
henjin
macrumors member
Vista problems zero, OSX plenty
I never used Windows that much except for trying out cutting edge web TV apps and such. All my main work was done on a Mac. I believed all the hype from the adverts and from people like you.
Two weeks ago I received my fist Vista Ultimate computer, HP Blackbird 002 for gaming and compared to Tiger or the dreadful Leopard I have had no problems. Indeed so impressed was I that I upgraded all my Adobe products and the work fast and smooth.
But you'll say it is only 2 weeks.
Fair point: I bought an upgrade to ToonBoom Studio Pro, requires a USB dongle, I loaded the software and told toi put in my dongle, software that was meant to interact with the dongle failed. You see Vista is rubbish... well no... Vista OS automatically started to search the web, found the site and gave me a link. Within 2 minutes I had found an update and downloaded it. No call for tech support needed.
I have never liked the Apple adverts that show a sleek Mac dude and a fat PC guy. When I'm at the Apple store in Soho NYC, the majority of Mac users need a wash, take a walk and really need to diet. I see no hot "chicks" staring at iphone owners, just sweaty with lust fat men.
Through the crap shoot of genetics I'm slim, but now I'm using Vista a lot... does this mean I'll now get fat? Does it mean that my animation will turn into a pie chart, a big fat greasy pie that I'll eat and become fat?
My HP Blackbird 002 Vista Ultimate simply works. My spanking new Apple Inc. computers do not simply work. They have all needed repair. All needed a clean install. Now with Leopard they all need new drivers and updates. Leopard also looks like the ugly twin of Vista.
Vista ZERO problems unsolved. Leopard is now off all my Apple Inc., computers. Tech nightmare belongs to Leopard.
I never used Windows that much except for trying out cutting edge web TV apps and such. All my main work was done on a Mac. I believed all the hype from the adverts and from people like you.
Two weeks ago I received my fist Vista Ultimate computer, HP Blackbird 002 for gaming and compared to Tiger or the dreadful Leopard I have had no problems. Indeed so impressed was I that I upgraded all my Adobe products and the work fast and smooth.
But you'll say it is only 2 weeks.
Fair point: I bought an upgrade to ToonBoom Studio Pro, requires a USB dongle, I loaded the software and told toi put in my dongle, software that was meant to interact with the dongle failed. You see Vista is rubbish... well no... Vista OS automatically started to search the web, found the site and gave me a link. Within 2 minutes I had found an update and downloaded it. No call for tech support needed.
I have never liked the Apple adverts that show a sleek Mac dude and a fat PC guy. When I'm at the Apple store in Soho NYC, the majority of Mac users need a wash, take a walk and really need to diet. I see no hot "chicks" staring at iphone owners, just sweaty with lust fat men.
Through the crap shoot of genetics I'm slim, but now I'm using Vista a lot... does this mean I'll now get fat? Does it mean that my animation will turn into a pie chart, a big fat greasy pie that I'll eat and become fat?
My HP Blackbird 002 Vista Ultimate simply works. My spanking new Apple Inc. computers do not simply work. They have all needed repair. All needed a clean install. Now with Leopard they all need new drivers and updates. Leopard also looks like the ugly twin of Vista.
Vista ZERO problems unsolved. Leopard is now off all my Apple Inc., computers. Tech nightmare belongs to Leopard.
Come on, you're being a bit naive if you think that 99.5 per cent of Mac users are running a Mac OS that is completely uncustomised in any way- and what about the hundreds of different hardware permutations. There are innumerable third party add-ons, extensions, apps etc that can effect things not just at system level, but also as far as individual bits of software are concerned, such as a web browser.
My point was not that there aren't genuine problems with the OS, whether it's Leopard or Tiger, but that most people's first response these days to something they don't expect is to say: it's someone else's fault, even though it might be the result of their own set up (running beta software, unsupported extensions, or any of a thousand different software/hardware permutations that might cause a problem).
slffl
macrumors 65816
Great Ad!
BTW I am so tired of the anti-Apple zealots. They LOVE to use the buzz-word 'smug' even though they don't know what it means. Apparently if you drink Coke or Pepsi you are also 'smug' because those two companies have been advertising against each other for decades, and so has pretty much every other company out there.
BTW I am so tired of the anti-Apple zealots. They LOVE to use the buzz-word 'smug' even though they don't know what it means. Apparently if you drink Coke or Pepsi you are also 'smug' because those two companies have been advertising against each other for decades, and so has pretty much every other company out there.
I said that 99.5% of OS X-users are running OS X on Apple-hardware. And I said that because we routinely hear comments how Macs "just work" and they do that because the software and the hardware is designed to intermingle. Yet we DO get problems.
Then why is it that when Windows has issues, Mac-users point and laugh, when you just demonstrated how Macs are no better?
Yes there are. If you claim otherwise, you are deluding yourself. But if you really DO claim that, then we can just as well say "there are no problems with Windows, all those problems people have are caused by third-party software and different hardware-configurations. Windows by itself is 100% perfect".
Well, are you claiming that?
So what caused my problem? Google was working fine in 10.4.10, in 10.4.11 it wasn't.
Gotta love it when your company blocks ad.doubleclick.net so I have to go to youtube to see an advertisement. In all seriousness, I'm so glad my company blocks this at a network-level, along with Firefox Adblock and hosts file blocks, I rarely see ads online.
Yateball
macrumors regular
Still not a bad thing actually, because if a Vista user reads a big ad that says don't give up on vista, they're naturally going to think something is wrong with it and wonder what's wrong that they're not supposed to give up on.
So either way I think the ad works, even if you only get to see half of it.
Results vary, but ....
Honestly, people tend to get a radically different perspective on Windows vs. OS X in a corporate setting than on their own machines at home.
Mac OS X has been focused squarely on the needs of a home, small office, or even educational user - with "enterprise" and "corporate" needs more of an afterthought. They're starting to address some of this now. (Leopard improves on a number of basic network file/folder sharing issues in OS X that Windows had them beat on, historically.)
The virus and spyware issue is VERY real, and the *only* reason you don't really observe it much in a corporate setting is because businesses make use of good firewalls, have policies implemented that discourage a lot of "personal/entertainment" uses of employee computers, and typically keep anti-virus software subscriptions up-to-date at all times.
I do a lot of on-site computer service for a living, and I quite regularly run into Windows XP based machines, fully patched and updated with "Service Pack 2" and the other Windows "security updates" Microsoft offers via automatic update. Yet, they're so gummed up with spyware and trojan horse virus programs, they can barely boot up or function. All too often, you have to reformat the whole hard drive and reinstall everything from scratch or good backups to eradicate the problems.
I ran OS X Tiger on 3 different Macs at home myself, and have 3 different networked printers on my LAN as well. I never really had any printing issues, BUT, I've observed it on other people's setups. Just like Vista, it usually boils down to poor drivers. Especially in the case of "all in one" scanner/fax/copier/printers, drivers are flaky in OS X. They may work fine on a local printer attached via USB cable - but as soon as you try to attach it to a printer sharing box, giving it an IP address, everything falls apart.
I've found that with printers, you "get what you pay for", in that inexpensive printers usually only work well when directly connected to ONE Mac or PC. If you want to print to one over a network in any way, shape or form, you need to shell out the money for one that's clearly designed for heavier "business" use. HP, for example, just won't put the effort into making their drivers reliable over a network on the "under $200" inkjet printers....
Honestly, people tend to get a radically different perspective on Windows vs. OS X in a corporate setting than on their own machines at home.
Mac OS X has been focused squarely on the needs of a home, small office, or even educational user - with "enterprise" and "corporate" needs more of an afterthought. They're starting to address some of this now. (Leopard improves on a number of basic network file/folder sharing issues in OS X that Windows had them beat on, historically.)
The virus and spyware issue is VERY real, and the *only* reason you don't really observe it much in a corporate setting is because businesses make use of good firewalls, have policies implemented that discourage a lot of "personal/entertainment" uses of employee computers, and typically keep anti-virus software subscriptions up-to-date at all times.
I do a lot of on-site computer service for a living, and I quite regularly run into Windows XP based machines, fully patched and updated with "Service Pack 2" and the other Windows "security updates" Microsoft offers via automatic update. Yet, they're so gummed up with spyware and trojan horse virus programs, they can barely boot up or function. All too often, you have to reformat the whole hard drive and reinstall everything from scratch or good backups to eradicate the problems.
I ran OS X Tiger on 3 different Macs at home myself, and have 3 different networked printers on my LAN as well. I never really had any printing issues, BUT, I've observed it on other people's setups. Just like Vista, it usually boils down to poor drivers. Especially in the case of "all in one" scanner/fax/copier/printers, drivers are flaky in OS X. They may work fine on a local printer attached via USB cable - but as soon as you try to attach it to a printer sharing box, giving it an IP address, everything falls apart.
I've found that with printers, you "get what you pay for", in that inexpensive printers usually only work well when directly connected to ONE Mac or PC. If you want to print to one over a network in any way, shape or form, you need to shell out the money for one that's clearly designed for heavier "business" use. HP, for example, just won't put the effort into making their drivers reliable over a network on the "under $200" inkjet printers....
Sesshi
macrumors G3
Definition of smug
"Exhibiting or feeling great or offensive satisfaction with oneself or with one's situation; self-righteously complacent"
Seems like most of the Apple zealots to me.
Blind Microsoft zealots who have not used OS X on the other hand tend to be simply annoying - they don't make my fists itch as much.
I'd agree with this but we have an inhouse mac IT guy who's knowledgable. He's been using apple since the days of the Mac Classic and he's quite anti windows and PC, however if he is swamped, he calls me to help. While I do know my way around OSX somewhat, I still have to ask for help once in a while when it comes to some shell commands..etc. I'm primarily a windows guy (and believe it or not.. OS/2. LOL )
Anyway its funny that we have almost 120 stations that are windows and there are 20 OSX boxes. We have two people managing the windows workstations (I'm one). Thats 60 workstations per person. There is one person handling 20 OSX boxes. He calls me to help him with rebuilding machines that have crashed or are acting weird...or helping troubleshoot. We never have to call him for any help. Most of the time we have free time to spare.
So really, how unstable is windows in general then? I'd say its pretty rock solid.
Anyway its funny that we have almost 120 stations that are windows and there are 20 OSX boxes. We have two people managing the windows workstations (I'm one). Thats 60 workstations per person. There is one person handling 20 OSX boxes. He calls me to help him with rebuilding machines that have crashed or are acting weird...or helping troubleshoot. We never have to call him for any help. Most of the time we have free time to spare.
So really, how unstable is windows in general then? I'd say its pretty rock solid.
FX120
macrumors 65816
I am very sorry, I honestly don't know what was going through my head. I read it as networked projectors, as he was going on about projectors needing driver support in the first part of his post, subconsciously I typed printers, when I really meant projectors.