New OS for PowerPC Macs

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by narke, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. narke macrumors newbie

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  2. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    Just wondering if your OS is optimised for the PPC architecture, or is it simply an OS with a lighter footprint so that it would run smoothly?
     
  3. narke thread starter macrumors newbie

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    For the moment there aren't optimizations, but yes I focus on lighter footprint.
     
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    Have you talked to Mr. Richter about using his name for your kernel?
     
  5. narke thread starter macrumors newbie

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    If you talk about Yggdrasil Linux, it's a discontinued Linux distribution so there can't confusion between a kernel and a distribution name.
     
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    It's called courtesy you're using his name in an open source project you might want to ask.
     
  7. narke thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I don't even know where to join him, we are talking about a Linux distro which disappeared about 15 years ago.
     
  8. flyrod macrumors 6502

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    Good luck with the project, I'm sure we'd be interested.

    It's too bad that kickstarter is such a haven for scammers.
     
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    His company also produced but that are still being published, you're not wrong legally for using the name but it's courtesy in the FOSS community. You are creating a BSD licensed open source project and named it's kernel after the first Linux distribution, people are going to notice.
     
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    Needing $38K to develop something that's FOSS seems a bit contrary to principle to me...
     
  11. narke thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I managed to find Mr. Richter and sent him an e-mail to make everything clear.
     
  12. narke thread starter macrumors newbie

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    There is no contradiction just a matter of opinion, I don't claim $38K to work on it in my spare time but full-time, of course you can refuse.
     
  13. laurihoefs macrumors 6502a

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    How is this contrary to FOSS principles?

    Do you expect FOSS developers to only work for free? Many companies are paying their employees to write FOSS code, and many commercial products are based on FOSS code.

    It's not really Mr. Richters name, it's from Norse mythology, just like the name of the OS, Einherjar.

    I don't think there's any real possibility of confusion between a very old GNU/Linux distro and this project.
     
  14. A.Goldberg macrumors 68000

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    It looks like a cool project and I wish you the best of luck. That said, I'm not confident people will support your nearly $40,000 goal. While I'd love to see something more capable running on OS9, it's a niche user base aka little demand, there's no money creating this OS, and there's no garantee the final product will be anything good, right? Again, it would be cool to see this project come to fruition, but I think it's one of those projects that has to be created and sold, rather than sold then created. But did we say this is open source?

    $40,000 in the big scheme of things isn't much money. What is that a year of dovoted work? I'd be surprised if you could build a usable OS with that little time (time = money). If you raised the full amount what is your time table to finish?
     
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    OSS is very corporate something like 85% code submitted is submitted by a paid developer.
     
  16. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    Sounds like a good idea, but what Apps will it run?
     
  17. WalnutSpice macrumors 6502

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    Just my two sense, any new OS for the PowerPC platform is welcome. But if you have the skills to do this, I would seriously recommend trying to get the OS to be able to emulate and run basic x86 apps designed for Windows. The G5 and faster G4 Mac's should run basic x86 programs alright. You could take some ques from React OS probably. It's a completely new OS (in a sense) thats like Linux and Windows, and can run most Windows software. It would breathe a lot of new life into faster PowerMacs. It'd also help other users who don't know much about computers if you made it resemble OS X or Windows in some way. React OS does that by looking identical to Windows 2000.
     
  18. Hack5190 macrumors 6502a

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    It looks like someone else had the idea of porting ReactOS to the PPC, however it seems that no progress has been made beyond outlining the concept. https://www.reactos.org/wiki/PowerPC
     
  19. weckart macrumors 68040

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    Is anyone surprised? ReactOS has been worked on for years to relatively little effect. It is still very unstable and will only run certain key Windows programs of a certain vintage. It is in no way a Windows replacement - not even of NT 4.0. Haiku has taken a decade to get somewhere close to where BeOS 5 was way back when. OS/4 still cannot boot its kernel without locking up.

    Writing an OS from scratch is anything but a trivial undertaking and it will be years before there is anything worth looking at, if ever.
     
  20. Hack5190 macrumors 6502a

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    What if you raise $38,049? :D Seriously, your correct that it is a major undertaking and exactly why most efforts at such a task have never been completed.
     
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    please don't be to discouraging folks another kernel would be nice options are great.
     
  22. narke thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It's understandable to be worried about the schedule available on kickstarter, but for example the TCP/IP stack would be a port of lwIP and not a complete implementation of all OSI layers. Only lightweight applications will be ported, the most important ones are cited on the site and while not being Linus Torvalds I have past experiences on kernel land development. Yes it will be a challenging accomplishment and I want to push my limits.
    Maybe Haiku and ReactOS aren't in a usable state because no one is involved in full-time development of these systems, I don't know what happens inside those projects.
     
  23. dermeister macrumors 6502

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    The project video is so Borat at the beginning ;)
     
  24. narke thread starter macrumors newbie

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    FYI I contacted Mr. Richter and he is OK to use Yggdrasil as a name for a kernel.
     
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