New Photo Claims to Show 2GB Elpida RAM Chips for iPad Air 2

[Max(IT)]

the iPhone 6 reminds me more and more of the iPad 3 debacle. higher resolution but barely any real performance improvements over the 5S bechmarks and the 6S being the next big jump next year.

... especially if you are making the mistake of judging real life performance using synthetic benchmarks results.
Did you ever see someone complaining for low performances on iPad air or iPhone 5S, not to speak about the 6?
So what's your problem? You are not establishing the new world record score on Geekbench? Who cares about that? Let it to be a problem for insanely high clocked Android devices and think about real usage on your iDevice...
The fact is the A7 was just "too good to be true", and now A8 is a refinement.

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GeekBar ??

Now that is something i can get in in to

running at different sizes, so are we going for some sort of "picture-in-picture mode" here. but separate.?

I guess i can probably understand the split screen, but 2 Gig ? Surely, u can do the same in 1 Gig or Ram can't you ?

You still have two apps running separately, so how come suddenly when their side by side, more ram is needed ? unless its a totally sluggish-type of moment, then i would agree 'add more ram'

but are our devices really THAT slow u can't even use them ? Next, Apple will find a reason to use 3Gig.

Unless i didn't get this, but i can quite easily switch between multiple apps now on iOS 7. Maybe more RAM for iOS8 not just the apps..... I can understand that since make made it that way.

Well, actually if Apple is going to change the way multitasking is handled on the iPad, more ram could be necessary.

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So no 3 GB RAM then?

... and then you'll be complaining about "no 4 Gb ram" and so on, because that's the way Samsung is doing improvements: just add more, no matter what.

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Switch - yes, run simultaneously - no.

That's not entirely true.
There are quite a lot of processes, even from different apps, running simultaneously.

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I could accept that, other than the fact that other brands of phone use far more RAM than Apple do in their models, and their brands sell more.

So I'm puzzled why Apple alone would have supply issues

There is not a single model from others brands which sells more than iPhone or iPad.
You have to consider all the insanely big lineup of Samsung products to have a bigger number, but most of those devices aren't using the same high end memory modules (using only in the high end Samsung's products).

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How many 2GB Android handsets sell more than the iPhone? Samsung highend models maybe, but apart from that?

Samsung high end model selling more than Apple's? In which parallel dimension?

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These are the chips they should've used in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus

Try an iPhone 6 and let me know when you are running out of ram

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Every iOS device I own i smooth as silk. The RAM myth I keep between 6-10 pages open at any given time no issues

I would say that using Safari with 6+ tabs isn't a good experience, but with mercury browser I'm perfectly fine.
Btw I'm usually not going to have more than four tabs opened, and I'd call it a reasonable number for a tablet or a smartphone.
I still think safari is the problem here, even if it is improved since iOS 7.1 introduction

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None. The iPhone is the highest selling model phone in the world.

And you can say the same for iPads

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Which is why I won't order until someone runs a Geekbench. I doubt the Air 2 is going to be anywhere near as impossible to get as the iPhone 6+, so no need to order it the second it goes up for sale, and if it turns out that it only has 1GB of RAM, I'll just return Apple the favor by replacing my iPad 4 with a Surface Pro 3 instead

Do yourself a favor and buy directly a bloated Samsung tablet. If your way to judge a tablet is Geekbench, that's what you deserve

 

[ErikGrim]

Wo knows? We might not even get this capability. frankly half the time y need for multitasking involves a calculator. If that calculator could slide in from a side that would take care of at least half of my multitasking needs.\

http://beautifulpixels.com/iphone/pcalc-3-3-ios-8/

 

[peterdevries]

There are people bashing Apple for the sake of it, but mostly they are judging the iDevices using the Android's established standards. Since high end Android based devices are using 3+ Gb of ram, then iPhone and iPads are inferior with only 1 Gb.
Using both platforms I can say the memory footprint is quite different, and even heavy apps are running fine on 1 Gb under iOS. The only exception is multi tabs web browsing, mainly using Safari ( with mercury I've got a definitely better experience), when memory seems to be an issue especially before iOS 7.1

Indeed, this is exactly the point I was trying to make (although I was less clear and elegant than your post). I'm all for including more RAM if it makes it possible to create more powerful apps and to solve safari reloading issues.

Apple sells their products on experience, not on specs. Each new device works excellently with every new app in the app store, and often better than comparable apps on other platforms (where flagship phones have more RAM).

A large group of people here do not demand RAM to get a better functioning phone or iPad with more powerful apps, but to convince themselves that their phones is better than Android equivalents. I fail to see the point of that.

 

[Donoban]

They'll use the same god damn body, bet somebody will bend it just the same and people like you will go up the walls again, etc.. Then it will sell 100+ Million just the same.

LOOOOLZ. Only time will tell my friend.

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So you must believe the chicken came before the egg, right?

But seriously, I love how you just completely ignore what the iPhone 4, 5 and 6 brought to the table. So you see, it really is a chicken/egg argument.

You said you never bought in on the S cycle. Just trying to point the chicken out to you broc, you'd be better off on the S cycle vs what you're doing now.

Don't see how you got the chicken/egg thing anyway given the genesis of the iPhone is already known.

Also no idea how you got 3 likes, that just gets my jimmies rustled.

 

[ILikeAllOS]

Can't wait for all the people that say the iPhone/iPad doesn't need more than 1Gb of RAM because they are "just mobile devices", they "only run 1 app at a time and don't need that extra memory", or "iOS is designed to be efficient by suspending apps so they don't use up memory so the extra RAM is a waste", etc..

These same people don't seem to realize the iPhone for example has already had RAM increases 4-5 times, why would Apple just stop now at the "magical" number of 1Gb?

 

[BWhaler]

I can't help but feel a bit salty that these weren't in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus.

Agreed.

 

[Max(IT)]

No, this is IOS, and 1GB isn't enough. Enough with the nonsense please. Anyone who thinks it's enough for heavy use has no idea what RAM does or how IOS uses it, i'm sure that isn't you so you must have been joking.

Due to the frequent low memory error of iOS 7 initial release, I actually investigated quite well iOS memory manager behavior, and my conclusions are that 1 Gb are absolutely fine for every app, including heavy ones.
The only app suffering from low memory errors is safari, when used with multiple tabs (more than 3) opened. Most of those memory errors were addressed with iOS 7.1, but especially on iPads, due to the much higher resolution, safari still has some problems with multiple tabs.
The use of an alternative browser like mercury pretty much solved the issue for me.
So at the end I'm happy with 1 Gb of ram in my iPhone and in the iPhone 6 (actually I'm more than happy, because developer are going to keep optimizing apps in the next year), but I'm hoping in the presence of 2 Gb in the next iPad air, especially if Apple is going to experiment some kind of multi Windows support

 

[Max(IT)]

Why not. It is time to move forward and it is crazy that the standard memory on the iPad is only 16g (or every was).

IMO the RAM should be 4gb and 64 gb memory standard.

I'm quite glad you don't work for Apple, since 4 Gb of ram in the current generation would be a waste of resources.

 

[Max(IT)]

I don't believe this unless you're casuslly browsing with a couple tabs

My normal usage is about 2-3 tabs opened and no reload at all...

 

[Max(IT)]

Can't wait for all the people that say the iPhone/iPad doesn't need more than 1Gb of RAM because they are "just mobile devices", they "only run 1 app at a time and don't need that extra memory", or "iOS is designed to be efficient by suspending apps so they don't use up memory so the extra RAM is a waste", etc..

These same people don't seem to realize the iPhone for example has already had RAM increases 4-5 times, why would Apple just stop now at the "magical" number of 1Gb?

Apple surely isn't going to stop at 1 Gb.

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Maybe 6s and 6+s ?

Quite sure the 6S will have 2 Gb and a bigger camera sensor

 

[KdParker]

I'm quite glad you don't work for Apple, since 4 Gb of ram in the current generation would be a waste of resources.

Care to explain yourself?

 

[Max(IT)]

Care to explain yourself?

Very good apps are running fine with 1 Gb as of today. Actuality most of them are running fine on 512 Mb devices.
Surely 2 Gb will be a welcomed extra in the next future, but 4 Gb of ram in the current generation would be just wasted ram.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Due to the frequent low memory error of iOS 7 initial release, I actually investigated quite well iOS memory manager behavior, and my conclusions are that 1 Gb are absolutely fine for every app, including heavy ones.
The only app suffering from low memory errors is safari, when used with multiple tabs (more than 3) opened. Most of those memory errors were addressed with iOS 7.1, but especially on iPads, due to the much higher resolution, safari still has some problems with multiple tabs.
The use of an alternative browser like mercury pretty much solved the issue for me.
So at the end I'm happy with 1 Gb of ram in my iPhone and in the iPhone 6 (actually I'm more than happy, because developer are going to keep optimizing apps in the next year), but I'm hoping in the presence of 2 Gb in the next iPad air, especially if Apple is going to experiment some kind of multi Windows support

Chrome crashes just as much as Safari on the iPad Air and the reloading is the same. Either browser will reload with 2 tabs open.

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The current Air is a beast. At least mine is. I must have got a good one though. Never a single issue with tab reloads or anything.

Tel ya what though, if the new Air does indeed have 2GB of ram and safari still has tab reloading issues for some people..... There will be a zillion threads here about how they should have had 4GB of ram. Gonna be free entertainment though reading the meltdown posts.

If you open more than one tab, it will reload.

 

[Crocodoc]

Sorry what was that?

It's just the sound of my Nexus 4 with 2GB of RAM dropping on the floor.

 

[Burger Thing]

I'm quite glad you don't work for Apple, since 4 Gb of ram in the current generation would be a waste of resources.

Just like the 64 Bit Processor then?

 

[Padmini]

Well, it will be an overall faster experience due to the 2GB of RAM as applications will have more memory allocated. IMHO, I think the iPad air should have 4GB of RAM (and no I'm not complaining about the alleged 2GB of RAM).

This was exactly the attitude I was mocking. If you understood anything about the way the OS works right now, you wouldn't make such statements.

 

[Max(IT)]

Chrome crashes just as much as Safari on the iPad Air and the reloading is the same. Either browser will reload with 2 tabs open.

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If you open more than one tab, it will reload.

Plain FALSE.
IN THIS EXACT MOMENT I have four tabs opened: this one, consumer reports bend test (with photos and embedded YouTube videos), GSMArena and a Local football news page. No reloads at all switching between them (i have just copy& pasted a few lines in another thread).
Do you need me to make another video for that?

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Just like the 64 Bit Processor then?

Do you really think 64 bits is just large addressable memory or are you smarter than that?

 

[Max(IT)]

Chrome crashes just as much as Safari on the iPad Air and the reloading is the same. Either browser will reload with 2 tabs open.

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If you open more than one tab, it will reload.

I'm quite tired of those BS....

http://youtu.be/a4a7qwnitIQ

Do I have a special version of the iPad with 4 Gb of ram? Is it a Samsung galaxy? Do I have to return my iPad air to Apple to have it analyzed?

 

[AppleScruff1]

Plain FALSE.
IN THIS EXACT MOMENT I have four tabs opened: this one, consumer reports bend test (with photos and embedded YouTube videos), GSMArena and a Local football news page. No reloads at all switching between them (i have just copy& pasted a few lines in another thread).
Do you need me to make another video for that?

Sorry, I don't believe it.

 

[thedeejay]

I'm quite tired of those BS....

http://youtu.be/a4a7qwnitIQ

Do I have a special version of the iPad with 4 Gb of ram? Is it a Samsung galaxy? Do I have to return my iPad air to Apple to have it analyzed?

Unfortunately, Apple's own web browser blows.. God knows when they'll ever get it right. Thank god for Chrome and other alternatives for iPad.

That reminds me...FireFox hasn't been released yet has it? (for iOS versions)

 

[Max(IT)]

Sorry, I don't believe it.

And you didn't even watch my video... because I showed it.

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Unfortunately, Apple's own web browser blows.. God knows when they'll ever get it right. Thank god for Chrome and other alternatives for iPad.

That reminds me...FireFox hasn't been released yet has it? (for iOS versions)

Don't know if it's just a safari issue, since I'm not using it very often.
Later I'll try on the same for webpages with safari, just to check it

 

[AppleScruff1]

I'm quite tired of those BS....

http://youtu.be/a4a7qwnitIQ

Do I have a special version of the iPad with 4 Gb of ram? Is it a Samsung galaxy? Do I have to return my iPad air to Apple to have it analyzed?

Your video really doesn't prove anything. If you stay on one tab for a couple of minutes, it will reload. When you switch you are switching tabs 10 times in 30 seconds, hardly real world use.

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And you didn't even watch my video... because I showed it.

I did. See above.

 

[jjahshik32]

This was exactly the attitude I was mocking. If you understood anything about the way the OS works right now, you wouldn't make such statements.

I don't truly understand how ios works as I never developed for it although work is hinting the idea that I may be developing their iOS app pretty soon.

IMHO unless you've developed for iOS itself, you're probably just as clueless of how memory allocation and management truly works.

I'm just basing on the fact other brands older tablets have had 2gb of RAM all this time, hell the Samsung note allocates 3gb of RAM. I know they're completely different OS but I would think ios should benefit from 4gb of ram especially since Apple has been touting that it's 64 bit.

 

[Padmini]

I'm just basing on the fact other brands older tablets have...

Then just stop, because it isn't even remotely close to a comparison

 

[rsocal]

The current Air is a beast. At least mine is. I must have got a good one though. Never a single issue with tab reloads or anything.

Tel ya what though, if the new Air does indeed have 2GB of ram and safari still has tab reloading issues for some people..... There will be a zillion threads here about how they should have had 4GB of ram. Gonna be free entertainment though reading the meltdown posts.

This is so very true!

I don't know if more Ram would make a big difference or not, my 6+ is working incredible and my iPad Air is as well!

However I hope they do go with 2GB of Ram, it'll help the minds of spec hunters and I'm sure sell a few more iPads.

The good thing is, if Apple uses 2GB of Ram, it can't hurt!

But as you stated, they'll still complain!