New Photos App Detects 4,432 Total Searchable Objects and 7 Facial Expressions [Updated]

[BeefCake 15]

Apple engineers tried to use Kristen Stewart to train it. But then agreed that the machine cannot surpass the Men that made it. And such task deemed impossible, and went to work on more Apple Watch bands instead.

LOL!!

If a computer can differential from the different Kristen Stewart expression, AI is ready to rule the world

 

[ViewRoyal]

This is a disgusting invasion of my privacy, I can't even take a picture with out Google spying on me...oh wait it's Apple...never mind it's magical and a brilliant innovation.

Exactly!

Google harvests all of your information gleaned from the photos you upload to their servers, to add to everything else that they are scanning and tracking (Gmail, Google searches, Chrome usage, Docs, Calendar, Maps, etc.

But with Photos in iOS and macOS Sierra, NOTHING gets sent to Apple. ALL of the processing and meta tags reside on your iPhone, iPad, or Mac... And it is all encrypted, so that even if the FBI wanted access to your data, they (and Apple) can't get into it.

 

[aristobrat]

It will be useful for autistic people who cannot recognize facial expressions on their own.

Most people have no trouble with facial expressions, so this feature is a gimmick.

So my two choices for going through two decades of photos (30,000+) to tag folks smiling are:

A) do it myself, because as a "person", I won't have any troubles doing it
B) let Photos do it automatically for me on my Mac or iDevice

Gimmick? Seriously?!

Too bad Apple didn't spend so much effort on improving the stability of iOS and macOS.

Seems like most of the comments here on MacRumors about macOS and iOS Beta One have been positive in terms of using them as daily drivers (i.e. stability). Beta One. What are you basing your experience about their reliability on?

Your posts make it sound like Apple could cure cancer, and you'd still have a snarky comment to leave about them.

 

[rGiskard]

Who said they didn't? Are you judging the new OS by its first closed beta?

They haven't since Snow Leopard.

 

[nickhardeman]

I could seriously give a **** about these stupid additives. "Memories" is the stupidest thing ever. What's the point? You can literally make the same thing on iMovie. WHERES THE REALLY PHOTO EDITING TOOLS????? Photos is one of the worst apps Apple has ever made. Getting rid of iPhotos was a terrible idea.

 

[FactVsOpinion]

This is a disgusting invasion of my privacy, I can't even take a picture with out Google spying on me...oh wait it's Apple...never mind it's magical and a brilliant innovation.

A for effort, but for those who know this is all performed on your device and thus maintains privacy, your comment is neither funny nor insightful.

 

[rGiskard]

So my two choices for going through two decades of photos (30,000+) to tag folks smiling are:

A) do it myself, because as a "person", I won't have any troubles doing it
B) let Photos do it automatically for me on my Mac or iDevice

Gimmick? Seriously?!

You would actually trust it to pick out all of the photos of some particular person smiling? And risk missing the best photo of all because the algorithm missed it?

 

[aristobrat]

"Memories" is the stupidest thing ever. What's the point? You can literally make the same thing on iMovie.

IMO, the point is that Photos will do it for you. You won't have to clear an hour of your day after your vacation to manually sit down and do it all in iMovie.

Personally, I've only every done the iMovie thing two or three times. It was cool, but it's not something I'm going to do after every time I'm somewhere where I take 50+ pictures.

If Photos can go back through my almost twenty years of pictures and do a good job of figuring out what series of photos actually make for a good representation of a memory (vacations, get-togethers, holidays, etc), I'll be pretty impressed, and happy that I don't have to do this all manually myself.

 

[FactVsOpinion]

You would actually trust it to pick out all of the photos of some particular person smiling? And risk missing the best photo of all because the algorithm missed it?

You have a larger risk of missing out when not doing it at all but you simply don't have the time

The system does not block you from looking through on your own if you want.

 

[rGiskard]

If Photos can go back through my almost twenty years of pictures and do a good job of figuring out what series of photos are actual good memories (vacations, get-togethers, etc), I'll be pretty impressed, and happy that I don't have to do this all manually myself.

You need Apple to tell you which of your own memories are good ones?

 

[aristobrat]

You would actually trust it to pick out all of the photos of some particular person smiling? And risk missing the best photo of all because the algorithm missed it?

If the algorithm went through the last ~20 years of my pictures and made an album of people smiling and was only 70% accurate, that'd be 70% more pictures of smiling people compared to me sitting down and manually going through ~20 years of photos and compiling such an album.

Read: not matter how bad the algorithm is, it's going to be more useful than the 'perfection' from me manually doing it, because I'm not going to manually do it.

 

[FactVsOpinion]

You need Apple to tell you which of your own memories are good ones?

Missing the point.
[doublepost=1466445315][/doublepost]This is cutting edge AI technology and only the beginning of a huge explosion of machine learning technologies that will blow the minds of all but many macrumors forum members.

 

[rGiskard]

If the algorithm went through the last ~20 years of my pictures and made an album of people smiling and was only 70% accurate, that'd be 70% more pictures of smiling people compared to me sitting down and manually going through ~20 years of photos and compiling such an album.

Read: not matter how bad it is, it's going to be more useful than the 'perfection' from me manually doing it, because I'm not going to manually do it.

I'm still having trouble understanding why you would want an album with only people smiling. Isn't the point of an album to capture a range of emotions and experiences?

The whole thing is a gimmick. Neat to play around with for a few hours and then never to be used again. Meanwhile Apple neglects the useful editing features that people can learn to use to make their own photos stun and impress.

 

[FactVsOpinion]

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I'm still having trouble understanding why you would want an album with only people smiling. Isn't the point of an album to capture a range of emotions and experiences?

The whole thing is a gimmick. Neat to play around with for a few hours and then never to be used again. Meanwhile Apple neglects the useful editing features that people can learn to use to make their own photos stun and impress.

It does identify a range of emotions.

 

[Analog Kid]

You would actually trust it to pick out all of the photos of some particular person smiling? And risk missing the best photo of all because the algorithm missed it?

Machines now outperform humans on the top image recognition benchmarks, so yeah, I'd likely trust the machine to save me the time to scan 30,000 images.

If there were a particularly good image that stood out from the rest, presumably I would have recognized it and flagged it when I imported it.

 

[bluespark]

I highly doubt that Apple does it locally, if anything that wouldn't be very practical to update the engine to keep improving the recognition speed and accuracy.

It's done in the cloud, just like Google.

Nope, entirely local.

 

[Analog Kid]

I'm still having trouble understanding why you would want an album with only people smiling. Isn't the point of an album to capture a range of emotions and experiences?

I think you're missing the point. It's not about creating an album of smiling people, it's about searching for the picture of "Lucy and Charlie with the football where Lucy looks smug and Charlie looks defeated", or "Sally and Schroeder and a piano where Schroeder is annoyed and Sally is in love."

It's more about aiding human search than making artistic judgements.

My Aperture library has close to 200,000 images spanning many years. There are pictures in there that I know, or suspect, exist but I probably can't even remember the year it was taken (assuming the metadata is still reliable, some got scrambled and some were scanned from negative).

The feature I'll miss most from Aperture is the keywording system because it gave me a very expressive way to organize my images. In truth, though, I've only tagged a small percentage of them because it's a time consuming process. If the machine can get me even halfway there, its a huge win.

 

[WWPD]

What, no Blue Steel!?

Blue Steel would overload the CPU and cause the battery to explode.

 

[jonnysods]

Man this tech is pretty impressive. Can't wait to hear my iMac fans scream as it works its way through the 150gb of photos and vids!

 

[bpeeps]

Most frequently identified expression? The duck face.

You have the beta already?

 

[FatMax]

IMO, the point is that Photos will do it for you. You won't have to clear an hour of your day after your vacation to manually sit down and do it all in iMovie.

Personally, I've only every done the iMovie thing two or three times. It was cool, but it's not something I'm going to do after every time I'm somewhere where I take 50+ pictures.

If Photos can go back through my almost twenty years of pictures and do a good job of figuring out what series of photos actually make for a good representation of a memory (vacations, get-togethers, holidays, etc), I'll be pretty impressed, and happy that I don't have to do this all manually myself.

I absolutely love this feature and it sure works! I've seen more pictures from previous years than anytime before after getting Memories!

 

[aristobrat]

Meanwhile Apple neglects the useful editing features that people can learn to use to make their own photos stun and impress.

Meanwhile .. oh wait, we're talking about last year .. Apple released an API for Photos that gives anyone interested the ability to add functionality to the app via extensions.

Personally, I don't have any major gripes regarding the usefulness of the editing features. 90% of the time, Enhance nails the light and color perfectly, and the crop/rotate tool is easy peasy to use. Haven't had a need to really dig in with the Retouch tool, but the few times I've used it, it also worked well.

I have no problems with the community adding new editing features (above the base) and letting Apple focus on the heavier stuff, like cloud library sync (for those that wish to use it), and retroactively going through years of photos to better tag and bring forward ones I may have forgotten about.

 

[ke-iron]

Hopefully, Apple won't make the same mistake by Google that tagged African Americans as gorillas.

The mistake in photos beta on iOS 10 is that it seams to think my brother and I are the same person,at least in some photos. I need a way to completely reset the software and manually select my brother as a different person. The only thing my brother and I have in common is that we're both black. He looks totally different from me. He has different ears, nose, hell everything. This thing groups his photos under myself in the people's section. I want him out of there because he is not me!
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So excited for this. I'm over here with this Google Photos and cannot even manually tag a face or un-tag a face that's not right. Yet another example of Apple's cleverness, yes they come out with some things after the others however basing my judgement off this post and past experience they get it right.

BTW - Come one Google get your stuff together add manual tagging!

Can't untag an incorrect face in iOS photos app either. I'm so mad right now.

 

[jayducharme]

For me, Photos has been the biggest disappointment on the Mac out of all the recent changes Apple has made. I've sent them feedback countless times about peculiar issues that haven't gotten fixed. My biggest gripe is that Photos won't play nice with other apps, even Apple's own. There's no way to drag an image from Photos into another app. And when I open Final Cut and click on the Photos tab, I get the bizarre error message, "Open Photos to see your photos". So there's no longer a way to import iPhone photos and videos into FC without opening the Photos package on the hard drive and navigating to the buried folder I want. It's insane. Plus, if I want to copy and paste content directly from Photos into a different folder, for some odd reason it takes an extremely long time (whereas I can copy from the packaged folder nearly instantly). Photos is still a hot mess. Facial recognition and automatic organization gimmicks aren't going to make me like it more at this point.

 

[Solomani]

If Siri Facial Recognition makes a grave error and identifies my dog's face with my ex-wife…… I might have reason to sue Apple!

On second thought, I won't sue. The facial recognition would be justifiably accurate.