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New Photos of 13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Show Battery Layout, Ports, and More [Updated]

I am very happy with my 2011 i7 MBA. The only thing I strongly dislike about it is the HD3000... I like the idea of being able to casually game on my laptop. I have a gaming desktop at home, but it's nice to be able to game on the go.

If the new 13" rMBP has discreet graphics, I will buy it on day 1. If it doesn't, I will NEVER EVER buy it. 2560x1600 resolution with an HD4000 will mean slowdown in even the simplest 3D rendering. Triple that problem if you attach an external monitor or two.

The 15" rMBP can barely function on it's HD4000 with an external monitor even without 3D.

The competition, as inferior as their products may be, offer discreet graphics (see Asus Zenbook Prime fully loaded models at around $1500 with GT620 to run 1920x1200 near-retina screens).

I'm a long-time Apple buyer on my 4th laptop in 7 years, but if they keep disregarding the needs of professionals who are also casual gamers, I might have no choice but to abandon ship.
 
S3R6i0 said:
I sure hope not. I hate discrete GPU. However, this machine will no doubt be in an early beta stage, so don't have your hopes too high. I'm gonna wait a little more after it's released for an enhanced version. After all, as time goes by, Apple products just get smaller and more powerful.
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.... Why would you hate having a discrete GPU?

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thomj said:
Can we expect the 13" rMBP to have the updated heat dissipation rumored to be coming for the 15" rMBP?
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I keep seeing this mentioned, but I've never seen a source of any such rumors. Do you have a link?
 
terraphantm said:
.... Why would you hate having a discrete GPU?

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I keep seeing this mentioned, but I've never seen a source of any such rumors. Do you have a link?
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I agree - what can possibly be to hate about a discreet GPU in a computer that allows you to disable it to save battery when you don't need it!?!?!?!

In terms of those rumors - I believe I read on 9to5Mac that they are rumored to have addressed the heat issues with the 15" rMBP and that the 13" rMBP was being built to the new spec.
 
Adidas Addict said:
It's funny how some people seem to think Haswell graphics are gonna be some huge leap forward over intel 4000, happens every year. Then we get the reality that some benches show improvements but in use they're just a little better.
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And according to Anandtech the overall performance increase for Haswell over Ivy Bridge will only be "five to fifteen percent."
 
terraphantm said:
Apple's current HDMI products support HDMI 1.4. I've personally used mine at 2560x1440 in Windows. However it seems OSX artificially limits the port to 165MHz

Dell's U2711 can accept 2560x1440 over HDMI with a hacked driver. U2713HM might be able to do it without any hacks at all
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Good, so it seems to be slowly getting there.

Nevertheless, DisplayPort/Mini DisplayPort remains the most common (and officially supported, no hacks required) way to get 2560x resolutions.
 
Trubbles said:
I agree - what can possibly be to hate about a discreet GPU in a computer that allows you to disable it to save battery when you don't need it!?!?!?!
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How the hell can you disable the discrete GPU "when you dont need it"? Because as far as I know, is the system itself, OSX, what disables or enables the discrete GPU. And, many times, this usually doesen't work properly, causing a high battery drain.

The 13" MBP is the most portable MacBook Pro. And we want the best batterylife for it (I have the "10 hours MBP").
 
I'm as big of an Apple fan as anybody here - probably moreso than most. And I know these are all just rumors right now - I get that. But *if* Apple charges $1700 and it doesn't have a dedicated GPU, I don't know how anyone could defend that - especially since it needs to drive a 30"-equivalent resolution. Just ridiculous.
 
Jamie0003 said:
It may be because they have more room to work with on the other side of the machine, since there is no longer an optical drive. I'm really looking forward to this machine; how would the $1699 price point convert to GBP? I was hoping it to be £1500 max for the base model.
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I know this is incredibly late to respond, but:

15" Retina (pre-tax, US) = $2,199
15" Retina (pre-VAT) = £1,499
Actual US-UK price = £1373

Assuming you add £100 and round up.
13" Retina (pre-tax, US) = £1,699
Actual US-UK price = £1,061
Expected price: £1,199 + VAT
VAT: £240
Combined: £1,439
 
mattcube64 said:
I'm as big of an Apple fan as anybody here - probably moreso than most. And I know these are all just rumors right now - I get that. But *if* Apple charges $1700 and it doesn't have a dedicated GPU, I don't know how anyone could defend that - especially since it needs to drive a 30"-equivalent resolution. Just ridiculous.
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Because it isn't going to be geared toward gamers. The HD4000 is capable of rendering at those resolutions for the vast majority of users.

$1700 compares quite favorably to the MacBook Air with similar specs.

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GrandPhrase said:
Maybe he's not hatin discrete GPU itself, but the compromises of discrete GPU like large size - making less room for other components, heat, sound etc. Idk just a thought lol.
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Yes. I don't know why people think this is going to get a discrete GPU. They have never been able to fit a discrete GPU onto the logic board for the 13" Pro, and this is going to be smaller than that (with a bigger battery to boot). There would be too many compromises, such as a smaller battery, or inferior heat dissipation leading to throttling (such as with the original MacBook Air).

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kas23 said:
I just can't imagine spending $2000 on a computer these days. It seems like the costs of Windows machines have dwindled to nearly nothing, but Apple prices have remained static. Due to this, I can imagine a time in the near future when only prosumer-types or professionals own a real Mac and the rest opting for iPads or cellphones.
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That's practically where we are right now. However, Intel and Microsoft are trying to change that by making more expensive Windows PCs attractive again, although they are going in different directions. Intel is pushing the Ultrabook, while Microsoft is getting into the PC manufacturing business with the Surface.
 
DVD9 said:
Mr. Kuo say "priced aggressively under $1,300".

Previously published on this site.
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If that's true then expect either pretty low specs (like 128GB SSD and 4GB RAM on entry model) or the Macbook Air will have to drop in price a lot.

Personally I would take Apple's current pricing on a 13" laptop with a 256GB SSD as a better reference point than an analyst's predictions.

I think that Kuo has proven himself to have pretty decent sources in the supply chain, but I don't know how he knows what price Apple will sell it for.
 
KPOM said:
Because it isn't going to be geared toward gamers. The HD4000 is capable of rendering at those resolutions for the vast majority of users.
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It's not even about gaming - but running pro-apps, multiple videos, and graphic-heavy websites at a resolution higher than any other laptop is currently using.
 
mattcube64 said:
It's not even about gaming - but running pro-apps, multiple videos, and graphic-heavy websites at a resolution higher than any other laptop is currently using.
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Not sure what you mean about graphic-heavy websites, but anyway....

If you "need" to edit multiple high-resolution videos while converting 15 TB of photos, maybe this (or any) 13" notebook is not the right tool for the job.

It's funny how worked up people get about this.
 
whiteonline said:
Not sure what you mean about graphic-heavy websites, but anyway....

If you "need" to edit multiple high-resolution videos while converting 15 TB of photos, maybe this (or any) 13" notebook is not the right tool for the job.

It's funny how worked up people get about this.
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Voicing my desire to have a discrete GPU in a $1700 laptop is not getting "worked up." I'm not angry. I'm just contributing to the forum and putting myself in the category of buyers that will be disinterested in this product if Apple decides not to give us a dedicated video card.

Your patronizing quotes and condescending attitude make it seem like you might be getting more worked up about it than others.
 
whiteonline said:
Not sure what you mean about graphic-heavy websites, but anyway....

If you "need" to edit multiple high-resolution videos while converting 15 TB of photos, maybe this (or any) 13" notebook is not the right tool for the job.

It's funny how worked up people get about this.
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well if the 13" has a dgpu it would be a BIG deal...
 
so

So if they release this computer, will they make a new video with Jony Ive saying this is truly the most beautiful and best computer we have ever made?
 
lulla01 said:
Truth be told i enjoy the videos I just find it humorous how they use slight propaganda and act like small feats are much more complicated then they are.
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Same here. The face of Lord Ive can become so humorous...
 

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