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New Photos of 13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Show Battery Layout, Ports, and More [Updated]

No dedicated GPU. No sale. Simple as that.

Part of the value of picking up the 15" rMBP is knowing that you'll be sufficiently covered as far as "future proofing" goes and that you'll be able to run graphically intense applications (across multiple screens) without needing to worry about any kind of lag. Heaven forbid I try to play a game or two at decent quality settings. Every laptop I've owned, be it PC or Mac has hit a wall at GPU performance long before the CPU, RAM, or HD. I like my screens large and my games pretty.

I'd be absolutely baffled if Apple does not or will not include a dedicated GPU in the 13" rMBP. I LOVE, LOVE OSX. But I also love the 13" form factor above all others, and I must be able to get my fix of Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, and the like at an acceptable quality. Not to mention ensure smoothness when my laptop is connected across multiple displays.

Please don't put me in between a rock and a hard place Apple. I love retina, and I love OSX, but Asus and Sony have been cramming dedicated GPUs in their 13" ultrabooks for awhile without any issues, thermal or otherwise. Please don't make me choose.

Edit: Having just seen the other thread where the price is expected to be $1700+ I can say with almost certainly I WILL NOT be purchasing if it does not have a dedicated GPU. At this point, I'm almost questioning the reason for this models existence. It's a glorified 13" MBA with some extra weight and a retina display, nothing else. Apple is known for pushing the limits, and not accepting the bare-bones minimum and an Intel HD 4000 is just that. MAYBE enough to power a 30" display and retina display (I'll be watching the benchmarks closely), but not much else.
 
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nick_elt said:
Well I havent ever used ny optical drive on my 2007 macbook. Im still suprised ppl compain that there wont be one. Usb is a much better option. My tv tskes it directly. Home stereo and car takes it. Can store and erase files. What on earth do u do with a cd these days????????
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And that's why Apple will most likely drop them next year as the retina MacBooks take over.
 
lulla01 said:
Truth be told i enjoy the videos I just find it humorous how they use slight propaganda and act like small feats are much more complicated then they are.
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From the Retina MBP video: "...a total game changer for photographers. They can now zoom in and see 4 times more of their image with pixel-for-pixel accuracy, and fine tune even the smallest details."

- Hi, is this Apple? Yeah, hi. Are you the guys with the computer that lets you fine tune details? That's an industry first. Take my money please.
 
Anuba said:
From the Retina MBP video: "...a total game changer for photographers. They can now zoom in and see 4 times more of their image with pixel-for-pixel accuracy, and fine tune even the smallest details."

- Hi, is this Apple? Yeah, hi. Are you the guys with the computer that lets you fine tune details? That's an industry first. Take my money please.
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True, Great resolution. However, its still not the greatest with color. Most photographers are looking for color accuracy. The rMBP shows 65-70% of aRGB. Look again at the tiny Sony Z with 98% of aRGB accuracy there. Although, its not IPS so it does not have the insane viewing angles. In addition, the build quality is better on the MBP. Apple's retina screens have great attributes, but they are nowhere near perfect for everyone.
 
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No dedicated GPU. No sale. Simple as that.

Part of the value of picking up the 15" rMBP is knowing that you'll be sufficiently covered as far as "future proofing" goes and that you'll be able to run graphically intense applications (across multiple screens) without needing to worry about any kind of lag. Heaven forbid I try to play a game or two at decent quality settings. Every laptop I've owned, be it PC or Mac has hit a wall at GPU performance long before the CPU, RAM, or HD. I like my screens large and my games pretty.

I'd be absolutely baffled if Apple does not or will not include a dedicated GPU in the 13" rMBP. I LOVE, LOVE OSX. But I also love the 13" form factor above all others, and I must be able to get my fix of Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, and the like at an acceptable quality. Not to mention ensure smoothness when my laptop is connected across multiple displays.

Please don't put me in between a rock and a hard place Apple. I love retina, and I love OSX, but Asus and Sony have been cramming dedicated GPUs in their 13" ultrabooks for awhile without any issues, thermal or otherwise. Please don't make me choose.

Edit: Having just seen the other thread where the price is expected to be $1700+ I can say with almost certainly I WILL NOT be purchasing if it does not have a dedicated GPU. At this point, I'm almost questioning the reason for this models existence. It's a glorified 13" MBA with some extra weight and a retina display, nothing else. Apple is known for pushing the limits, and not accepting the bare-bones minimum and an Intel HD 4000 is just that. MAYBE enough to power a 30" display and retina display (I'll be watching the benchmarks closely), but not much else.
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You'll get the integrated Intel HD 4000. That's it. It's what Apple feels is sufficient for a 'Pro' machine. And it's a joke.
 
"Yes. I don't know why people think this is going to get a discrete GPU. They have never been able to fit a discrete GPU onto the logic board for the 13" Pro, and this is going to be smaller than that (with a bigger battery to boot). There would be too many compromises, such as a smaller battery, or inferior heat dissipation leading to throttling (such as with the original MacBook Air)"

This is a bunch of nonsense. Apple CHOOSES not to put a dGPU in the 13" MBP. When it comes to the "Pro" line, the 13" is their bread and butter. Why on earth would they put a dGPU inside only to future proof or delay the next purchase? I think its absolutely clear as to why.

So, as users we should take thinner, lighter and mass throttling "Pro" line laptop without a dGPU?

Correct me if i'm wrong here. Does Apple not already make a line of laptops designed for lighter tasks?

Do you honestly think that a company that can engineer the iPhone could not put a dGPU inside of the 13" MBP line? Heck, they even had one in the 12" Powerbook. I remember loving that laptop with the smaller form factor, hotter running PPC chip and, my goodness, a dGPU.

I don't think any of us would complain if it was a lower end chip from the 650m. Apple's arrogance and complete disregard for the 13" MacBook "Pro" line is disgusting and obvious.

1% chance of this, but possibly a MacDock is on the way with a thunderbolt dGPU solution. This would satisfy the whole line.

Apple, get a grip! Shave off what you can but include the internals expected in a "Pro" line computer. Why are you bent on selling your customers short? Oh, and for the love, do something about that 1200 X 800 panel in the cMBP already.
 
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Patriot24 said:
I hate to dip into the "what would Steve have done?" territory, but it seems obvious to me that HDMI never existed on a Mac until after Steve Jobs was out of the picture. Perhaps it was something that the engineering team always wanted to include, but was held back by Jobs?
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Define "out of the picture." My 2011 Mac mini has HDMI.
 
faroZ06 said:
Thinner than the Air? I smell a product merge.
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Yes..Air seems bigger than new 13 retinas...so if no Gpu in the Air..no Gpu on 13 as well.
Maybe this is the only way to have a 640m in next mini,
because if was there no 640 could ever had a chance to stay in the mini..maybe just the HD4000 or the underpowerd 625m just released to "protect" the r13 inches sales.
Sorry this is off topic.
Air 13 and Retina's MacBook13 seem really close in terms of specs and dimensions(?)..just a powerful quad core and the retina between?No way for me.
 
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My 2008 Unibody 13" Macbook is dying a slow painful death as far as specs are concerned. It struggles with multiple applications and hates Photoshop. Plus I can't get software updates anymore because I'm still running Snow Leopard. I refuse to update the OS and give the already strained system more to handle. However, given it's lasted 4 years it has served me well for 4 times as long as any other laptop I've ever owned.

I'm in the market for a new Mac and the 13" rMBP looks like the computer for me. To be honest as long as it has a retina screen, 8GB of RAM, and can run CS6, the new Sim City game coming next year, and Starcraft 2 it will be good enough to last me another 2-3 years.
 
D.T. said:
You should look into non-retina 15" or even a '11 15" refurb. You'd get the CPU (quad core)/GPU (discrete) options, user upgradable RAM (if that's your thing), a big[ger] HDD that you could swap for an SSD later.

Also, you can get a higher resolution option in the 15", and even an anti-glare display.

Most of the Apple retailer run specials on the 15s pretty regularly too ... you could score a nice machine for ~$1500 :cool:
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I'll stick with my custom built PC which cost me a fraction of that and is more powerful than any MacBook Pro available right now.

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Virinprew said:
You can always run Windows. :D
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I can never understand people who spend thousands of pounds on an Apple machine and put Windows on it. You may as well build a better Windows machine for a fraction of the price.
 
JarScott said:
I'll stick with my custom built PC which cost me a fraction of that and is more powerful than any MacBook Pro available right now.

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I can never understand people who spend thousands of pounds on an Apple machine and put Windows on it. You may as well build a better Windows machine for a fraction of the price.
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Why are you comparing a laptop line to a custom machine? Anybody with a decent common sense, should know that its going to be way more powerful...
 
Stetrain said:
So you expect this to sell for the same price as the $1499 13" Macbook Air which has a 1.8Ghz ultra low voltage CPU, 4GB memory, and a 1440x900 display?
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I think it's funny that you expect the ULV chip to be less expensive. The 2.5 mobile and 1.8 ULV Ivy Bridge chips are both $222 according to wikipedia's listing of Intel's published pricing
 
bigchrisfgb said:
No optical drive?
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joke?

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Steve121178 said:
I'm not sure I could justify spending that amount of money on a machine that doesn't have a dedicated GPU. I will be very disappointed if they confirm it's HD 4000 only.
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Not to mention how much graphics power this thing would take compared to the non retina 11" and 13" models which are already not great with graphics.

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soulniz said:
Can anyone actually confirm that this is a 13-inch mode and not just the 15-inch?
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Well you can clearly see that the keyboard goes to the edge where there are giant speaker grills in the 15" model, which I can say for sure because I'm typing this on a 15" Retina MBP :cool:

Of course it could still be shopped..
 
JarScott said:
I'll stick with my custom built PC which cost me a fraction of that and is more powerful than any MacBook Pro available right now.

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I can never understand people who spend thousands of pounds on an Apple machine and put Windows on it. You may as well build a better Windows machine for a fraction of the price.
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tell me about it, i see people run windows XP on their macbook pro at uni, it breaks my heart a little
 
boy-better-know said:
What's going on with the blue magsafe 2?
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this is how Apple differates ? I thought they said "we don't use USB color-coded ports", but we DO on the Megasafe / 2 ?

How odd.

Looks another mockup to me... Theres no trackpad (plus its not that thin at the base) ,in the first one, while the second comparing it to a Pro.

Looks like two Pros to me easily.
 
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SlyFoxHound said:
Why are you comparing a laptop line to a custom machine? Anybody with a decent common sense, should know that its going to be way more powerful...
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Brod00d, my $1000 Mac Pro with the $80 display is better than the best MBPR.

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Krazy Bill said:
Too bad it has to run with iOSX. What a waste of nice machine. :(
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Have you tried Mountain Lion? It can do everything that Snow Leopard can do and more except for emulating PPC processors with Rosetta (infuriating how they got rid of Rosetta). You don't have to use the new stuff if you don't like it, but there's nothing to hate about the iOS features in it. They're all pretty useful except for dictation. The Notification Center is like Growl but way better and built-in.
 
Hell0W0rld said:
Why does Apple even bother to hold a Media Event.By the time it starts we will know what they are going to tell us anyway. Yes, I know I am on a rumors site, bla, bla, whatever, I just want some surprises to be left over for the actual event. Is that really so much to ask for?
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Maybe they want to inform the other 99.999999% of the population
 
pgiguere1 said:
By default it will look fuzzy like on the 15" rMBP, but you can download apps like SwitchResX (and others) to disable HiDPI scaling so that it looks exactly like on your 30" display. It will still be as sharp as before as it will be a native 2560x1600. However everything will look pretty small on a 13" screen.

Photoshop should be fine. CPU and RAM will be good for a 13" laptop, the only weaker part will be the graphics (considering they will most likely be integrated) but an Intel HD 4000 is fine. Just don't plan to game at native resolution, but Photoshop should be snappy as it is mainly CPU and RAM dependent. I don't know about Final Cut.
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Hd4000 is fine?this seems self convincing^^.Hd4000 its not enough,they should have taken the 645m,a litte step below the 650m.
 
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