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New Photos of 13-Inch Retina MacBook Pro Show Battery Layout, Ports, and More [Updated]

No dedicated graphics = no buy, a "pro" level machine that Apple plans to charge over $1500 for without a dedicated graphics card would be a complete and utter farce.

If any of you purchase this thing w/o dedicated graphics, you either have too much money and don't care about value or you are an idiot.
 
GrandPhrase said:
Oh wow.. Just checked, you're right..

Well, do you think the Air can retain its weight and thinness with the addition of retina when its time?
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I think it will. I stated earlier but I think if they wanted to they could just add retina to the MBA now. I just think it comes down to finding the right balance between power/efficiency. Along with having a battery that can keep the thing powered. Currently the rMBP is using a larger battery than the cMBP to keep it powered.

I think if they were to do it now with the MBA it'd have a really bad battery life. I say give it by next year (and if not the year after for sure).
 
dba415 said:
No dedicated graphics = no buy, a "pro" level machine that Apple plans to charge over $1500 for without a dedicated graphics card would be a complete and utter farce.

If any of you purchase this thing w/o dedicated graphics, you either have too much money and don't care about value or you are an idiot.
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Or you're a console gamer.
 
dba415 said:
No dedicated graphics = no buy, a "pro" level machine that Apple plans to charge over $1500 for without a dedicated graphics card would be a complete and utter farce.

If any of you purchase this thing w/o dedicated graphics, you either have too much money and don't care about value or you are an idiot.
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Well you better get use to it. As intel improves their internal graphics within their chips we're going to start to see laptops skip out on a dGPU and just rely on them.

I personally agree ATM and do believe at this stage the intel4000 won't be enough but within the coming years I would expect laptops to ditch a dGPU as these laptops get thinner and thinner.
 
dba415 said:
If any of you purchase this thing w/o dedicated graphics, you either have too much money and don't care about value or you are an idiot.
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Or in my case, have found the notebook I've been wanting.
High Resolution Display
16x10 aspect ratio (!!!!!)
Full power mobile CPU
Thin and light (and good looking)
No dGPU so I can get decent battery life in BootCamp
 
I cannot wait! I bought the first 13" unibody macbook pro and it has served me well, however it is getting on a bit and who can resist such a sexy machine? I can't wait to complete my retina family.

Next... 4k tv's to flood the market :D
 
theuserjohnny said:
I think it will. I stated earlier but I think if they wanted to they could just add retina to the MBA now. I just think it comes down to finding the right balance between power/efficiency. Along with having a battery that can keep the thing powered. Currently the rMBP is using a larger battery than the cMBP to keep it powered.

I think if they were to do it now with the MBA it'd have a really bad battery life. I say give it by next year (and if not the year after for sure).
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Yup.. For sure they have the ability to put it in now, even Samsung showed off a 2560x1600 13" Series 9 notebook a little while back. Agree with all your points.

Yeah.. Battery is the issue - hopefully Haswell helps out a bit.

By the way, the 13" Pro will go 2560x1600, but do you think the 13" Air will go with that or double its current resolution to 2880x1800?
Or will it even go 2560x1600 first then 2880x1800 later?

Lol, im pounding you with questions one after another..
 
dba415 said:
No dedicated graphics = no buy, a "pro" level machine that Apple plans to charge over $1500 for without a dedicated graphics card would be a complete and utter farce.

If any of you purchase this thing w/o dedicated graphics, you either have too much money and don't care about value or you are an idiot.
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Or it doesn't suit your purpose; perhaps you should think before you post. Not to do so would be indicative of an idiot.
 
El Salvador said:
For me, and I think a lot of other people too, a full HDMI port is a dealbreaker. We can't live without HDMI anymore. It's fully integrated in all kinds of consumer electronics.
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I have apple TV at home and would still find hdmi handy. Not a big issue if it didn't, but clearly handy to have.
 
whiteonline said:
Or in my case, have found the notebook I've been wanting.
High Resolution Display
16x10 aspect ratio (!!!!!)
Full power mobile CPU
Thin and light (and good looking)
No dGPU so I can get decent battery life in BootCamp
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I'm on the fence on dedicated GDP. I don't play video games. Video editing is slow, but still workable. So would be nice, but not a deal breaker.

Now if they do managed to squeeze dedicated graphics into something this thin and light with good battery life and a retina display, I think all of us will be impressed at their engineering acumen, no?

I was similarly impressed at the thinness of the iPhone 5 from an engineering perspective.
 
NYCMacFan said:
I'm on the fence on dedicated GDP. I don't play video games. Video editing is slow, but still workable. So would be nice, but not a deal breaker.

Now if they do managed to squeeze dedicated graphics into something this thin and light with good battery life and a retina display, I think all of us will be impressed at their engineering acumen, no?

I was similarly impressed at the thinness of the iPhone 5 from an engineering perspective.
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Agreed. The only problem for dGPU is the lack of room for battery to support it. Basically, the 13" would need about as much capacity as the 15". I highly doubt the relatively smaller 13" screen uses significantly less power.
 
GrandPhrase said:
Yup.. For sure they have the ability to put it in now, even Samsung showed off a 2560x1600 13" Series 9 notebook a little while back. Agree with all your points.

Yeah.. Battery is the issue - hopefully Haswell helps out a bit.

By the way, the 13" Pro will go 2560x1600, but do you think the 13" Air will go with that or double its current resolution to 2880x1800?
Or will it even go 2560x1600 first then 2880x1800 later?

Lol, im pounding you with questions one after another..
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Haswell will be a huge step in the right direction. From there it'll just come down to Apple coming up with a portable battery for it.

I personally think when Apple does the next redesign for the 4th generation Macbook Pro (Apple likes to do them every 3-4 years) they'll be exactly like the Air.

By then Intel's integrated graphics should be well more than powered to run the laptop w/out a dGPU and by then Apple should have improved the batteries to better power them and also they should be then have found a solution to the hinge issue that prevented them from releasing a 15inch MBA.

I think it'll just stay at 2460x1600 I doubt going to 2880x1800 would make that big of a difference on a 13inch screen.
 
Scottsdale said:
I am shocked to see two Thunderbolt ports along with an HDMI port in this 13" rMBP. In my opinion, along with the pricing suggestion of $1699, this means there will be a discrete GPU in the 13" rMBP.

This also means that I will make the switch from my 15" rMBP to the 13" rMBP. Unfortunately, I am disappointed with the LG display in my rMBP, as it is affected by image retention. I pray that Apple got this worked out on the 13" rMBP. I sure wish Apple could get along with Samsung or find another manufacturer other than LG to provide Retina displays for Macs. Love the Retina displays, but not the LG IR issues.

Lastly, anyone have any guesses as to when Apple will release a 27" Retina Display? I love my Thunderbolt display, but I cannot wait until Apple offers a Retina version. Love my iPhone 5's display, and I sure hope this IGZO technology makes it into other Apple displays very soon.
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Apple can get along with Samsung...drop the law suits. As the sadly missed Steve Jobs said repeatedly, best form of flattery is imitation, and, great artist steal. Well, no one could suggest that compared to iPad, the Galaxy Tab was artistic, but if it's good for Apple, it's good for everyone. Think of how much more money would be there for the shareholders if they weren't suing all and sundry! I'm all for protecting your intellectual property, but if that is the case why don't they shut down the knock off's coming out of china?:rolleyes:
If you are doing a retina display 27" iMac, I'd want the Samsung panel.
It's a bit hard to copyright form factors except, apparently, in the USA. Let's hope someone doesn't do it for laptops as a concept...or we're all screwed!!:D
 
theuserjohnny said:
Haswell will be a huge step in the right direction. From there it'll just come down to Apple coming up with a portable battery for it.

I personally think when Apple does the next redesign for the 4th generation Macbook Pro (Apple likes to do them every 3-4 years) they'll be exactly like the Air.

By then Intel's integrated graphics should be well more than powered to run the laptop w/out a dGPU and by then Apple should have improved the batteries to better power them and also they should be then have found a solution to the hinge issue that prevented them from releasing a 15inch MBA.

I think it'll just stay at 2460x1600 I doubt going to 2880x1800 would make that big of a difference on a 13inch screen.
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Yeah definitely.. and I hope for the 15in. MBA as well, but I doubt there will be one as the MBA portability is advertised by Apple not only by its sheer thinness and weight, but by its actually 'box size' as in length x width. And I think the rumored 15 MBA earlier this year was the already announced 15" rMBP. (But I will keep that little hope alive as I would actually purchase one on the spot).

And when you say that you doubt 2880x1800 would make much difference on the Air, I didn't only mean the PPI or image quality but the extra screen real estate that that resolution would give. Did not experience it personally, but many people have said the additional real estate makes a big difference. Or did you also take the screen real estate into account in your answer? (My bad if I didn't mention this in the first place)
 
GrandPhrase said:
Yeah definitely.. and I hope for the 15in. MBA as well, but I doubt there will be one as the MBA portability is advertised by Apple not only by its sheer thinness and weight, but by its actually 'box size' as in length x width. And I think the rumored 15 MBA earlier this year was the already announced 15" rMBP. (But I will keep that little hope alive as I would actually purchase one on the spot).

And when you say that you doubt 2880x1800 would make much difference on the Air, I didn't only mean the PPI or image quality but the extra screen real estate that that resolution would give. Did not experience it personally, but many people have said the additional real estate makes a big difference. Or did you also take the screen real estate into account in your answer? (My bad if I didn't mention this in the first place)
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There was an article on here saying that Apple did in fact plan to have a 15 inch MBA but the screen hinge (same exact one as the 11 and 13inch) could not hold the added weight of the 15 and over time the hinge would eventually break.

So far now the rMBP is the closest will get to a 15 inch MBA.

As in the resolution question I was just referring to just the image quality.

In terms of real estate I personally still don't think it'll make a difference. If anything it'll be harder to want to use all that space on a 13 inch screen. I mean using the full resolution on the rMBP 15 is tiny as hell and useless at least for my usage.

I don't know if that answer your question. :confused:
 
I wished they had hit the middle ground of the res, I went from a 15" with 1680-1050 to a 17" with 1920-1200 to a rMBP with 1440-900. This retina is amazing but I had trouble getting used to the screen space...
 
theuserjohnny said:
There was an article on here saying that Apple did in fact plan to have a 15 inch MBA but the screen hinge (same exact one as the 11 and 13inch) could not hold the added weight of the 15 and over time the hinge would eventually break.

So far now the rMBP is the closest will get to a 15 inch MBA.

As in the resolution question I was just referring to just the image quality.

In terms of real estate I personally still don't think it'll make a difference. If anything it'll be harder to want to use all that space on a 13 inch screen. I mean using the full resolution on the rMBP 15 is tiny as hell and useless at least for my usage.

I don't know if that answer your question. :confused:
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Yup answered my question :D

Now, I'm just trying to look for more evidence of a 15" MBA lol. So long brother.
 
I don't think Apple would bring out a 15 MBA.... ..

Its no longer, a MBA then, as it will be heavier, regardless of how light Apple claim the screen may be.

The gap, will be basically "no gap at all"
 
GrandPhrase said:
When the Air goes retina will its display be as thick as the Pro's display? Cause the display thickness from non-retina Pro to retina Pro increased as well.
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*If* the Air goes Retina, then yes it will increase in thickness. I doubt that by next year they will have found new ways to shave another 1-2 millimetres off a Retina screen's thickness. Then again, I can see the point of Retina on a rMBP, but I can perfectly live with an Air w/o Retina, its main raison d'être being its thinness and not its screen quality ....
 
Tech198 said:
I don't think Apple would bring out a 15 MBA.... ..

Its no longer, a MBA then, as it will be heavier, regardless of how light Apple claim the screen may be.

The gap, will be basically "no gap at all"
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Yeah.. that's why I said I doubted it regardless of my desire lol

Making a 15" Air would contradict the advertised and meaningful portability of the Air lol
 
wditters said:
*If* the Air goes Retina, then yes it will increase in thickness. I doubt that by next year they will have found new ways to shave another 1-2 millimetres off a Retina screen's thickness. Then again, I can see the point of Retina on a rMBP, but I can perfectly live with an Air w/o Retina, its main raison d'être being its thinness and not its screen quality ....
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unless they go with oled panels, but that would be cost prohibitive for most potential buyers.
 
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