New Photos of Purported iPhone 6 Battery Show 1,810 mAh Capacity

[capathy21]

sounds like your phone is broken -- i get 24 hours+ on a charge, and i use my phone throughout the day for surfing, facebook, a few calls, a few other apps, and plenty of texting. i consider that actually using it.

This...

I fail to understand what people are doing on their phones that kill them in a matter of 6 hours. My fully charged ip5s will last a long time. 100 texts, 20-30 minutes on FB, Some web browsing, several hours of streaming Spotify or I Heart Radio, a few calls and still have 50 percent by evening time.

If you game, all batteries are terrible, large or small.
If you stream video, results aren't much better.

S3, S4, Note 2, HTC ONE, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, none of these had near the battery efficiency that any of my iphones have had whether it be the ip 4,4s,5 or 5S.

Most of the iphone users that complain about battery life have never experienced what bad battery life actually means. There is no smartphone which sips power better than the iphone. I can go to sleep with it at a certain percentage, and wake up 7 hours later to find it may have dropped 1 percent. With Android, it was always a guessing game. What's eating my battery, why did I lose 30 percent overnight? With the iphone, the battery life is better, it charges in under an hour from empty to full which is a huge deal if you need a quick boost. Plug in an HTC ONE for 30 minutes and gain 5 percent battery, plug an iphone in for 30 minutes and you've gained 50 percent. The difference is night and day.

Most Android devices need twice the battery capacity of an iphone. An 1810 mAh battery along with power improvements in the new chip, will be more than enough battery for the ip6.

 

[wizard]

Battery life might be a factor. By life I mean the number of times a recharge can be done and leave you with suitable run times.

Yep i'm not convinced this is legit.

I feel like apple has more than enough space to totally max out the battery capacities at 2500 mAh for 4.7 and 3500 mAh for 5inch.

This would really change battery life with the A8 and could spell 24 hour movie playback/browsing or more!

I've always thought apple capacities seem low for the volume the battery takes, I wonder if there is a reason for such low values and hope that this is the year apple finally switch to a denser battery? anyone have knowledge of why apple is not going with larger sizes?

If this rumor is true they are going with a larger sized battery. I'm not sure why people don't see this.

 

[g35]

This...

I fail to understand what people are doing on their phones that kill them in a matter of 6 hours. My fully charged ip5s will last a long time. 100 texts, 20-30 minutes on FB, Some web browsing, several hours of streaming Spotify or I Heart Radio, a few calls and still have 50 percent by evening time.

If you game, all batteries are terrible, large or small.
If you stream video, results aren't much better.

S3, S4, Note 2, HTC ONE, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, none of these had near the battery efficiency that any of my iphones have had whether it be the ip 4,4s,5 or 5S.

Most of the iphone users that complain about battery life have never experienced what bad battery life actually means. There is no smartphone which sips power better than the iphone. I can go to sleep with it at a certain percentage, and wake up 7 hours later to find it may have dropped 1 percent. With Android, it was always a guessing game. What's eating my battery, why did I lose 30 percent overnight? With the iphone, the battery life is better, it charges in under an hour from empty to full which is a huge deal if you need a quick boost. Plug in an HTC ONE for 30 minutes and gain 5 percent battery, plug an iphone in for 30 minutes and you've gained 50 percent. The difference is night and day.

Most Android devices need twice the battery capacity of an iphone. An 1810 mAh battery along with power improvements in the new chip, will be more than enough battery for the ip6.

I suspect the difference between your experience and theirs is the screen usage. If each text takes a minute, plus 30 min each of FB and web, that's around 3 hours of screen time.

My 5 generally gets around 6 hours of screen time with a charge, with judicious use of extra features so as not to drain extra battery. That's better than my nexus 4 which got around 5 hours but it doesn't exactly blow it out of the water.

If using the screen a lot, I'm sure you can see how someone could exhaust the iPhone's battery in well under a day.

Apple has done a good job with background processes and APIs. Now they need to either work on more power-efficient screens, or solve the problem with brute force increase of battery size. If this battery is for the 4.7" iPhone, 16% increase is likely to result in at best equal battery life compared to the iPhone 5S

 

[DakotaGuy]

You never realize how nice it is to have excellent battery life until you own a phone like the Droid Maxx with a 3,500 mAh battery in it. With normal usage it makes it two days easily. It really isn't very thick or bulky either so I am not sure why other manufacturers won't attempt larger batteries. I think Apple would be surprised how many people would love an iPhone with a 3,500 mAh battery in it even if it was just slightly thicker.

 

[bushman4]

1810 mAh sounds nice and while bigger than the 5S most likely will not give any additional usage time considering the screen is bigger
Then again while every wants more powe nobody is expecting it

 

[Bahroo]

Can someone with knowledge in the area please provide their opinion on how much of a boost (if any) this will provide taking into account a larger screen?

Does a 1810 mAh sound about right to keep the current battery life with a larger screen? Or is it impossible to tell?

honestly i dont think the bigger screen will drain the battery much more at all, from what i have read before even though the GS5 screen is bigger then the s4 screen, it actually uses less power then the gs4 screen and is even brighter and better then the GS4 screen

same thing with Note 3 when it came out, it actually uses less power then then Full HD smartphones , roughly 31% more power efficient then full HD smartphone displays , on a 5.5 inch display

i dont think the i6 display will drain the battery much , Apple can add innovations to their screen like DRAM for the screen and more efficient better screen technology, like a switch from LTPS to a new screen tech for better battery efficiency, IGZO, with DRAM in the screen, etc.

displays are getting more battery efficient by the year.

who knows though, the bigger battery most likely is simply for the bigger screen to just accodomate it, id say the i6 will have i5s like battery life but probably a bit better , espcially better standby times and a faster recharge rate (i fully expect Apple to implement a faster charging in their i6 like Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 etc, although the 5s and 5 do charge decently fast already)

i6 will be beast.

 

[capathy21]

I suspect the difference between your experience and theirs is the screen usage. If each text takes a minute, plus 30 min each of FB and web, that's around 3 hours of screen time.

My 5 generally gets around 6 hours of screen time with a charge, with judicious use of extra features so as not to drain extra battery. That's better than my nexus 4 which got around 5 hours but it doesn't exactly blow it out of the water.

If using the screen a lot, I'm sure you can see how someone could exhaust the iPhone's battery in well under a day.

Apple has done a good job with background processes and APIs. Now they need to either work on more power-efficient screens, or solve the problem with brute force increase of battery size. If this battery is for the 4.7" iPhone, 16% increase is likely to result in at best equal battery life compared to the iPhone 5S

I can understand how constant use can kill an iPhone in a few hours. But if this type of usage is daily, there really isn't anything that can help those users last an entire day. Something like the Droid Maxx would, but even my coworkers Maxx doesn't do that much better than my 5S does under similar usage.

I found the Nexus 4's battery life to be better than the Nexus 5. That being said, with Android devices, I always had to worry about screen brightness, GPS, and switching off wifi when not at home/work. With the iPhone, I just use it. Leave wifi and gps on all the time, and leave the screen at a comfortable level.

I guess each person's usage varies and for that, so does their battery results. It has been my experience that overall, the iPhone handles battery consumption much better than Android.

 

[shansoft]

This has always confused me. Why doesn't Apple just shove in a 2800 mAh battery like Samsung does? Surely the easiest way to increase battery life is to do that, and I can't imagine it's due to physical limitations because the size of the S5 battery isn't that much bigger than the iPhone's.

Anybody know?

Because Android requires a lot more power to operate in general. Samsung phone on the other hands need even more due to ****** software/hardware combination.

Those QualComm chips are battery eater. There is really no point when a iPhone 5S can easily match a Android phone that has twice as much battery capacity. Not to mention the Android typical 1-3% battery drain per hour thing.

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

Do you realize that your napkin calculation assumes that the screen power use would represent exactly 100% of the entire power consumption of the device?

Yes, which isn't too far off. The screen consumes over 90% of the battery. After the screen, the next biggest power draw is the GPS, which consumes around 5%.

That's why devices like the iPod Shuffle, completely lacking a screen, are able to go so long on such a small battery.

Both of those numbers come from the 3GS, but I figure the amount of power it takes to light up a screen hasn't substantially changed.

 

[adriatomy]

I don't think the size of battery matters in battery timing.

 

[gavroche]

Yes, which isn't too far off. The screen consumes over 90% of the battery. After the screen, the next biggest power draw is the GPS, which consumes around 5%.

That's why devices like the iPod Shuffle, completely lacking a screen, are able to go so long on such a small battery.

Both of those numbers come from the 3GS, but I figure the amount of power it takes to light up a screen hasn't substantially changed.

Well... i have no information to back this up with.. (and i'm not trying to disagree with you on the point) but if the screen uses such a high percentage of the power, why would my iPhone get such a wide variation of battery life, depending on what I am doing with it? I mean, some things I do cut the battery life significantly down (due to more intense processor use, wi-fi data transfer, location services, etc).... if the screen was using nearly all of the battery charge... it should not matter much what i am doing in terms of how long the battery would last.

 

[tanyet]

You're right, my Note 3 is precious to me, best phone I've ever had

And to be honest with you, if I have to live 1 week away from power grids, technology is the last thing I care about

But what I know something for sure: I unplug my phone at 5:40 in the morning, and after a day of heavy usage (games, phone calls, ~5hours screen time, Facebook, Twitter, SMS), I plug the phone at 10PM. Battery life remaining: ~30-35%. It has been the same for the last 3 weeks

With light usage, I can go 2 days without recharching it. IMO, that's what the iPhone 6 must be able to achieve. That what current flagship Android phones can achieve.

I agree 100%, My note 3 would easily last 2 to 3 days. I've gotten up to 3.5 to 4 days with my new Nokia 1520.

Love IOS though and still kinda miss it. I'll probably switch back if the big daddy comes out.

 

[lazard]

Because Android requires a lot more power to operate in general. Samsung phone on the other hands need even more due to ****** software/hardware combination.

Those QualComm chips are battery eater. There is really no point when a iPhone 5S can easily match a Android phone that has twice as much battery capacity. Not to mention the Android typical 1-3% battery drain per hour thing.

Apples to oranges comparing the battery usage of a 4" 640p screen on the 5S to a 5" 1080p screen on the S5.

 

[Truefan31]

I do want better battery life but I do like how fast my iPhones charge. Around 2000 I think would be ideal especially with the new features of iOS 8 that prolly will use battery as well.

 

[currocj]

I do want better battery life but I do like how fast my iPhones charge. Around 2000 I think would be ideal especially with the new features of iOS 8 that prolly will use battery as well.

Heck, why not just come out with two sizes: slim and fat, or call it slim and enhanced battery. Then WE THE CONSUMER can choose. I'm tired of apple telling me I want a super ultra slim phone thinner than the last. Its getting ridiculous with my current i5, charge all night, then charge when I get to work, maybe top off at the end of the day, charge when I get home because I won't have enought charge to make 'til the morning. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Parasprite]

how does this article have -1 vote? i want to be able to down vote again!

I noticed also a guy who posted a comment about leaving the iPhone for an android device also had a -1 score. Do some admins still have down vote capability?

They enabled it for all of a few hours, not sure why exactly but it is disabled again.

 

[Truefan31]

Heck, why not just come out with two sizes: slim and fat, or call it slim and enhanced battery. Then WE THE CONSUMER can choose. I'm tired of apple telling me I want a super ultra slim phone thinner than the last. Its getting ridiculous with my current i5, charge all night, then charge when I get to work, maybe top off at the end of the day, charge when I get home because I won't have enought charge to make 'til the morning. Rinse and repeat.

That ain't happening. You can choose not to get the iPhone.

Geez what do u do on your 5? Charging that much?

 

[blacktape242]

The better in my iPhone 5 is HORRIBLE, i charge it all night and by noon the next day I'm around 70-60% and i don't use it that much, maybe some web browsing and text messages and a few news apps.

I can literally watch the % go down....


I just works eh?

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Heck, why not just come out with two sizes: slim and fat, or call it slim and enhanced battery. Then WE THE CONSUMER can choose. I'm tired of apple telling me I want a super ultra slim phone thinner than the last. Its getting ridiculous with my current i5, charge all night, then charge when I get to work, maybe top off at the end of the day, charge when I get home because I won't have enought charge to make 'til the morning. Rinse and repeat.

Im in the same boat as you!! What happened?????

 

[Truefan31]

The better in my iPhone 5 is HORRIBLE, i charge it all night and by noon the next day I'm around 70-60% and i don't use it that much, maybe some web browsing and text messages and a few news apps.



I can literally watch the % go down....





I just works eh?

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Im in the same boat as you!! What happened?????

My 5s works great.

Not being negative but depending on how important battery life is to u you have other choices, or battery pack cases. Everybody wants this and that, bigger battery, bigger screen, more ram, better camera, etc. never ends. I think overall iPhone gives me the best experience and I'm pretty satisfied with my 5s.

 

[\-V-/]

This...

I fail to understand what people are doing on their phones that kill them in a matter of 6 hours. My fully charged ip5s will last a long time. 100 texts, 20-30 minutes on FB, Some web browsing, several hours of streaming Spotify or I Heart Radio, a few calls and still have 50 percent by evening time.

If you game, all batteries are terrible, large or small.
If you stream video, results aren't much better.

S3, S4, Note 2, HTC ONE, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, none of these had near the battery efficiency that any of my iphones have had whether it be the ip 4,4s,5 or 5S.

Most of the iphone users that complain about battery life have never experienced what bad battery life actually means. There is no smartphone which sips power better than the iphone. I can go to sleep with it at a certain percentage, and wake up 7 hours later to find it may have dropped 1 percent. With Android, it was always a guessing game. What's eating my battery, why did I lose 30 percent overnight? With the iphone, the battery life is better, it charges in under an hour from empty to full which is a huge deal if you need a quick boost. Plug in an HTC ONE for 30 minutes and gain 5 percent battery, plug an iphone in for 30 minutes and you've gained 50 percent. The difference is night and day.

Most Android devices need twice the battery capacity of an iphone. An 1810 mAh battery along with power improvements in the new chip, will be more than enough battery for the ip6.

Maybe if you were a power user you'd understand. The examples you gave aren't going to chew through your battery. My battery case works just fine for me, though... will charge the phone back up to 100% from almost nothing ... but I'm usually near an outlet ... and I have my car charger as well.

 

[appledes7]

My personal take/rant on the subject:

I'm not convinced an 1800 mAh battery will result in dramatically increased battery life. And it still may not even compete all that well with Android flagships like the LG G2, G3, OnePlus One, Note series, etc.

Look at the Moto X. Easily regarded as the most optimized Android phone. As optimized as an iPhone? Probably not. However, it has a 4.7" screen, lower res than 1080p, and has a dual core CPU with extra cores optimized for certain tasks. Rumors of the iPhone 6? 4.7" screen, not 1080p, dual core with cores for certain tasks. Hmmmmmmm.

Granted, the CPU in the Moto X is of an older architecture so that will impact battery life. But you know what takes up more battery than the CPU? The screen. Go grab any Android phone and go into the battery stats. Every time the screen is listed as taking up the most percentage of the battery. If you are on your phone for 15 minutes and then leave it idle for 3 hours, screen will still be number 1 battery hog.

With that in mind and with the Moto X's older CPU in mind, the Moto X also uses an AMOLED screen. Much more efficient than IPS panels. In relation to IGZO not much is known yet in terms of energy consumption, but one article I read said AMOLED still uses less power. Which makes sense because it is able to turn off any individual pixel whenever it wants if the pixel is complete black.

Also, the Moto X has a 2200 mAh battery.

So to recap, the iPhone 6 is rumored to have a 4.7" screen, less than 1080p resolution, dual core CPU, and an 1800 mAh battery. The Moto X has the same screen size, less than 1080p resolution, dual core CPU, more efficient screen, and a larger battery at 2200 mAh.

The Moto X gets decent battery life. Not great, not awful, but decent (in my opinion with my usage). With a new CPU architecture in the iPhone 6, it ultimately won't do too much to help battery life in the end. Screen on time won't change much.

My concern is that I am skeptical of OS optimizations being able to compensate for ~400 mAh difference in battery capacity and the use of a slightly more power hungry screen.

 

[Zxxv]

sounds like your phone is broken -- i get 24 hours+ on a charge, and i use my phone throughout the day for surfing, facebook, a few calls, a few other apps, and plenty of texting. i consider that actually using it.

Try taking some photos with iPhone uploading them to photosyream on top of your light use

 

[Zxxv]

iPhone, its this brilliant device that replaces your camera, your walkman, your phone, it rolls them all into one....yet only gives you one frikin battery not 3 and certainly not 3 times battery like whats needed

 

[capathy21]

Maybe if you were a power user you'd understand. The examples you gave aren't going to chew through your battery. My battery case works just fine for me, though... will charge the phone back up to 100% from almost nothing ... but I'm usually near an outlet ... and I have my car charger as well.

Yea I'll concede I'm not a power user. I'm just curious (not being sarcastic) what are some examples of heavy usage?

 

[Poisonivy326]

I've said this before: battery management is something it seems like the iPhone team is just lazy about. The Macbook line (the whole line) gets excellent battery life. The ipad line (all the ipads) also get excellent battery life. The iPhone battery life has always been mediocre.

I'm tired of the "oh but the Samsung Galaxy battery life sucks" argument. It shouldn't matter. Apple as a tech leader that's already way ahead of the curve in terms of battery management on all their other devices should be ahead of the curve in their iPhone battery life, yet it's always been content to be "just okay."

Get it together with the iPhone battery. If that means making the phone slightly thicker and heavier so be it.