New Photos of Purported iPhone 6 Battery Show 1,810 mAh Capacity

[bigchrisfgb]

There is no way Apple will release a new iPhone with less battery life, I'm not going to get into details about where the energy savings will come from but I would assume it's from a range of different areas of both hardware and software.

It might not be the massive new ultra long battery life a lot of people want but there will be an upgrade.

 

[2IS]

Here come the complainers.

Not before the fanboys show up though

 

[cocky jeremy]

Some useful tips…

http://www.overthought.org/blog/2014/the-ultimate-guide-to-solving-ios-battery-drain

You shouldn't have to disable half of a phones features to get decent battery life.

 

[illicit2k1]

Just when I though society stopped comparing megapixels and gigahertz, and focused on results rather than specs.

 

[3282868]

Apple's obsession with thin seems to have no limits.

However, Apple's traditionally tight hardware and software integration may contribute to a greater overall battery life, as iOS 8 will likely be optimized for the iPhone 6 to allow for the best performance.

This has always been Apple's claim, and as a developer familiar with iOS, switching app's on and off, location services, tweaking numerous settings in hopes to find the "sweet spot" rarely works. I can see the next Samsung ad, "Musical Settings".

 

[alexgowers]

More goo phone parts. Keep bringing them on, everyone here will believe it's the real deal.

Yep i'm not convinced this is legit.

I feel like apple has more than enough space to totally max out the battery capacities at 2500 mAh for 4.7 and 3500 mAh for 5inch.

This would really change battery life with the A8 and could spell 24 hour movie playback/browsing or more!

I've always thought apple capacities seem low for the volume the battery takes, I wonder if there is a reason for such low values and hope that this is the year apple finally switch to a denser battery? anyone have knowledge of why apple is not going with larger sizes?

 

[lazard]

Yep i'm not convinced this is legit.

I feel like apple has more than enough space to totally max out the battery capacities at 2500 mAh for 4.7 and 3500 mAh for 5inch.

This would really change battery life with the A8 and could spell 24 hour movie playback/browsing or more!

I've always thought apple capacities seem low for the volume the battery takes, I wonder if there is a reason for such low values and hope that this is the year apple finally switch to a denser battery? anyone have knowledge of why apple is not going with larger sizes?

profit margins

 

[newagemac]

This has always confused me. Why doesn't Apple just shove in a 2800 mAh battery like Samsung does? Surely the easiest way to increase battery life is to do that, and I can't imagine it's due to physical limitations because the size of the S5 battery isn't that much bigger than the iPhone's.

Anybody know?

Using a larger battery should be the absolute last resort if you can't figure out any other way to increase battery life. Larger batteries are heavier and reduce the amount of space available for other things like sensors, GPUs, and other chips. And one of the biggest benefit in my opinion of having a smaller batter is how fast it charges. To further drive home the point, consider that the ideal device would have infinite battery life with no battery.

The only way you get to that ideal is through software optimization and/or using better batteries rather than larger ones.


So just because Google, Samsung, and the rest of the Android OEMs failed in battery life innovation through things like software optimization and instead of engineering better solutions just lazily stuffed in larger, heaver batteries that take longer to charge and use up more internal space doesn't mean that Apple has to do the same.

And the methods Apple are using to get thinner devices that last longer will serve them well when they enter into the wearables market where larger devices to accompany larger batteries won't be acceptable.

 

[CmdrPuffin]

I really don't understand what other people define as "heavy" usage. I have my iPhone 5 in a Mophie Juice Pack Plus and I usually make it through the day with about 30% remaining only because of the case. The phone itself is usually dead a little after 2PM.

I'm not playing graphics intensive games for hours on end either. I generally browse the web on the way to work, have 4 email accounts set to check every hour, text my friends, and read books on it. With that kind of usage I generally drop about 15-20% an hour and I get a little over 5 hours usage on a full charge.

I wish battery cases weren't a necessity but I've had to use one since the iPhone 4 days since the iPhone's battery life is so awful. I would much rather have a phone that's a few millimeters thicker with a larger battery built in than have to effectively double my phone's thickness with a battery case.

Sadly it looks like I'm going to have to wait on the iPhone 6 until Mophie brings out the Juice Pack for it.

 

[shurcooL]

Sheesh. Just do us all a favour and get yourself a Note 3.

Why not an iPad mini with cellular, right?

It's got an even bigger 7.9" screen and 10+ hours battery.

 

[RedCoil]

1st, then what's good out there? Tell me...

2nd, phones allways need to charge. Even if they last for a week. Sorry if you don't understand that.

3rd, at least I have a screenshot.

Also, some sites out there agree with me...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9

It may not be the best, but power/battery and battery/weight, it is.

So, if you want to complain, complain about other phones that all have a sucky battery life.

And tahts a fact, the only "proof" of the iPhone have poorer battery life is from android fanboys that don't have an iPhone to begin with, and will never have,nbecause its too hard for them to understand that just a bigger battery won't make a phone last longer.

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Better a "crappy screenshot", that a crapload of words, with no proof.

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I used it as normally, as I allways do, and doesn't matter what I did, 7 hours is a lot. I always have all radios on (4g, wifi and bt), my phone never let me down.

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To the points raised. I can just as easily cherry pick reviews with benchmarks showing the iPhone performing poorly compared to Android devices. Like this:

or this:

Oh and screenshots are better than words eh? Here you go, I can game the battery stats output on my phone too.

I haven't owned a iPhone 5S so I can't speak to the battery life of that device. However, I did own a 5 and a 4S and the battery life on both of those left a lot to be desired. In terms of battery life per capacity the iPhone is certainly ahead of the competition. Eventually, no matter how efficient you are, there is only so much juice you can squeeze out of a small battery.

I'm planning on buying an iPhone 6. The bigger screen and iOS8 changes basically eliminated the reasons I switched to android. Battery life is the only question mark left. Hopefully Apple gets over their obsession with thinness and puts in a bigger battery. Or Samsung's attack ads motivate them to take battery life seriously.

 

[Reason077]

The screen is over 15% larger, so why wouldn't we expect it to increase power draw by that much?

Because the screen is only one part of the overall power draw of the phone. The CPU and the radios use more power than the display - at least, as long as you don't have your brightness cranked up to 100% all the time!

If the screen is 38% larger, and we assume that the display is responsible for 30% of the power draw (give or take, it obviously depends on your workload, brightness, etc) - then in total thats only a 10% increase in overall power consumption.

 

[Wiesenlooser]

Ha! The Moto X is the phone that made me decide to make the switch from iOS to Android, but let me tell you, it ain't so great, and as soon as I can get my hands on an iPhone 6, I'm going to drop my Moto X like a hot potato. It's like they say, the grass is always greener on the other side. Save yourself the trouble I went through and just stick with iOS!

Problem is, that Battery life is my number one concern and even before all rumors came out, I made a deal with myself that I wont buy an iPhone aslong as it doesnt have a remarkably improved battery life. Android isnt as nice as iOS for me, but there are some Android Phones out there that WILL get you through the day no questions asked (One M8, LG g2/3, Moto G)

Since the Moto X1 is rumored to have a 2900maH battery, it would probably be my number one choice (well as long as the camera doesnt suck)

 

[AppleHater]

Using a larger battery should be the absolute last resort if you can't figure out any other way to increase battery life. Larger batteries are heavier and reduce the amount of space available for other things like sensors, GPUs, and other chips. And one of the biggest benefit in my opinion of having a smaller batter is how fast it charges. To further drive home the point, consider that the ideal device would have infinite battery life with no battery.

The only way you get to that ideal is through software optimization and/or using better batteries rather than larger ones.


So just because Google, Samsung, and the rest of the Android OEMs failed in battery life innovation through things like software optimization and instead of engineering better solutions just lazily stuffed in larger, heaver batteries that take longer to charge and use up more internal space doesn't mean that Apple has to do the same.

And the methods Apple are using to get thinner devices that last longer will serve them well when they enter into the wearables market where larger devices to accompany larger batteries won't be acceptable.

Who said it has to be one or the other? Of course, we want a bigger battery with software optimization. How heavy is your phone to be concerned about the weight nowadays? The weight and thinness came far enough that beyond this point is more of an obsession than for a practical reason. The battery life has some ways to go in that regard.

 

[Piggie]

As long as I get good battery life, I don't care what size battery goes into the iPhone 6.

What is a good battery life and how old are you?

Myself, I would regard 1 week as a GOOD battery life.
Children of today, who know nothing else are growing up to believe 1 day is enough.

 

[bigchrisfgb]

To the points raised. I can just as easily cherry pick reviews with benchmarks showing the iPhone performing poorly compared to Android devices. Like this:

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or this:
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Oh and screenshots are better than words eh? Here you go, I can game the battery stats output on my phone too.
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I haven't owned a iPhone 5S so I can't speak to the battery life of that device. However, I did own a 5 and a 4S and the battery life on both of those left a lot to be desired. In terms of battery life per capacity the iPhone is certainly ahead of the competition. Eventually, no matter how efficient you are, there is only so much juice you can squeeze out of a small battery.

I'm planning on buying an iPhone 6. Hopefully Apple gets over their obsession with thinness and puts in a bigger battery. Or Samsung's attack ads motivate them to take battery life seriously.

All the phones you mentioned there came out after the 5s, all of them at least 6 months after the 5s (apart from the Z2 in the USA only) .

I'm sure when you compare the 6 with those phones it will hold up well.

 

[Intelligent]

Wait... down voting is back?

 

[RedCoil]

All the phones you mentioned there came out after the 5s, all of them at least 6 months after the 5s (apart from the Z2 in the USA only) .

I'm sure when you compare the 6 with those phones it will hold up well.

Absolutely correct. I was trying to make a point about cherry picking benchmarks and screenshots to match up with their biases though.

 

[Tanegashima]

Enough with the trolling and BS, please.

The iPhone 5S with iOS7 - iOS7.1 easily has the worst battery life of any iPhone 4 - 4S we've used on Verizon with iOS 5/6.

A little dose of reality, probably won't help with your tin foil hat, denial, delusions, ... but here it goes anyways:


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2.5 hrs = battery life half gone!

No gaming. Partial brightness. Most smart features turned off. 2-3 bars of VZW LTE.

If I actually use my 5S as a smartphone, I have to charge it at lunch, or it 'll be depleted by night.

If I drive anywhere am, lunch, pm ... I'm always charging my phone in the car.

And there are hundreds if not thousands of users just like me who get mediocre battery life, far from the 10 hrs of actual use Apple promises.

My 5S easily drops 15-20% per hour. Sometimes more. Avg is probably 15% = 6hrs

Really?

Then either you have a piss-poor coverage, something wrong consuming too much battery, or your battery needs to be replaced.

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Yes, yes it does. No, 7 hours is not a lot.

7 hours of use, a day, is not a lot?

WTV...

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To all those whiners... I hope that Samsung pays you well...

 

[Parasprite]

Wait... down voting is back?

This will be interesting to watch.

 

[bigchrisfgb]

Absolutely correct. I was trying to make a point about cherry picking benchmarks and screenshots to match up with their biases though.

Yeah, I misread your post. Apologies.

 

[BigJohno]

the macbook air has the same battery size as before yet it gets 12 hrs of life. The iPhone 6 could have amazing power management from the a8. bigger is not always better.

 

[icerabbit]

Exactly how old are you, that you are accusing other people of being paid by Samsung?

Then either you have a piss-poor coverage, something wrong consuming too much battery, or your battery needs to be replaced.[


To all those whiners... I hope that Samsung pays you well...

Like I said. 2-3 bars of VZW LTE. Up to 5 depending on location. According to the provider we have full coverage in our area.

If you go farther away from town, into the countryside, it does get worse. Or inside a metal building.

As soon as you start pulling mobile data, it drains rapidly. You can see it drop 1% every few minutes.

I constantly close apps that use navigation, unless I am using them.

The only "intense" application is FaceTime Audio & FaceTime Video chat, which I only do on wifi.

Nothing wrong with the phone according to Apple. As they've stated to hundreds of other people. It is normal. Your battery life will vary.

The problem with all that is that a phone used to last all week. They keep shrinking things till they are too thin to be comfortable, instead of using some space savings due to better manufacturing techniques, smaller parts etc to put in a better battery.

 

[gavroche]

The screen is over 15% larger, so why wouldn't we expect it to increase power draw by that much? IPhone users haven't had battery info until iOS 8beta so maybe most are unaware that the screen uses wayyy more battery than anything else. I think this leak is a fake.

Wouldn't your argument that a 15% increase in screen size would result in a 15% increase in power usage necessarily assume that the screen is using 100% of all battery use on the phone?
I'm do not know what percentage of power use of an iPhone the screen represents, but it sure as heck isn't 100%.

 

[keysofanxiety]

Using a larger battery should be the absolute last resort if you can't figure out any other way to increase battery life. Larger batteries are heavier and reduce the amount of space available for other things like sensors, GPUs, and other chips. And one of the biggest benefit in my opinion of having a smaller batter is how fast it charges. To further drive home the point, consider that the ideal device would have infinite battery life with no battery.

The only way you get to that ideal is through software optimization and/or using better batteries rather than larger ones.


So just because Google, Samsung, and the rest of the Android OEMs failed in battery life innovation through things like software optimization and instead of engineering better solutions just lazily stuffed in larger, heaver batteries that take longer to charge and use up more internal space doesn't mean that Apple has to do the same.

And the methods Apple are using to get thinner devices that last longer will serve them well when they enter into the wearables market where larger devices to accompany larger batteries won't be acceptable.

That would be a fair point, but the competiton's battery life is much better than the iPhone's.