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New PowerMac Model?

shawnce said:
PowerMac7,3 using PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin (new unknown system first in 10.3.3)
PowerMac7,2 using PowerMac7_2_PlatformPlugin (current PowerMac G5 line)
PowerMac8,1 using SMU_Neo2_PlatformPlugin (new unknown system first in 10.3.4)
RackMac3,1 using RackMac3_1_PlatformPlugin (I assume the Xserve G5 )
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So is the "PowerMac7,3" still in 10.3.4 or has it disappeared?
Anyone?
 
Calebj14 said:
Yes, from what the Developer's website looks like, I'm thinking it might be released this summer.

ADC
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What on the ADC site makes you think that? They haven't announced anything at all about it other than it's name. The only reference I can find for "Tiger" is that it will mention in Steve's keynote at WWDC.
 
You can find some more info at
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/index.html.

For example, AppleMacRISC4PE code for 10.3.3 contains a following line:
Code: 
MacRISC4CPU.cpp: 
/* RackMac3,1 and PowerMac7,3 -
 pulsar clock chip @ IIC_B 0xD4 */
and a pair of PowerMac7,3 specific source code
PowerMac7_3_CPUCoolingCtrlLoop.{cpp,h}. :cool:

It may mean RackMac3,1 and PowerMac7,3 have some similarity and
PowerMac7,3 have additional CPU Cooling facilities!

Unfortunately, the AppleMacRISC4PE code for 10.3.4 is not available.
all other 10.3.4 kext codes seem to be downloadable at apple's site!
Apple is surely hiding the crucial code fragment from us rumormongers :)
 
nsb3000 said:
I think those comments were refereeing to after apple releases tiger. I don't really think they would introduce it and then wait 8 months or more to sell it.
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They are demoing it to developers. They are NOT introducing it for consumers.

They said "We'RE slowing that (pace) down...". E.g "we ARE". They didn't say it would be for after Tiger.

Apple has said nothing about when Tiger will ship.

QED, if we see Tiger in October or November I would be REALLY REALLY surprised.
 
My Guess:

7,3: Revision B PowerMac G5
8,1: The rumored X station. With the rumors about Apple working with ATI to offer FireGL cards, a new work station makes sense.
 
Iroganai said:
You can find some more info at
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/index.html.

For example, AppleMacRISC4PE code for 10.3.3 contains a following line:
Code: 
MacRISC4CPU.cpp: 
/* RackMac3,1 and PowerMac7,3 -
 pulsar clock chip @ IIC_B 0xD4 */
and a pair of PowerMac7,3 specific source code
PowerMac7_3_CPUCoolingCtrlLoop.{cpp,h}. :cool:

It may mean RackMac3,1 and PowerMac7,3 have some similarity and
PowerMac7,3 have additional CPU Cooling facilities!

Unfortunately, the AppleMacRISC4PE code for 10.3.4 is not available.
all other 10.3.4 kext codes seem to be downloadable at apple's site!
Apple is surely hiding the crucial code fragment from us rumormongers :)
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This just confirms my suspicions that Apple is planning MUCH more at WWDC than just demoing Tiger - this year's WWDC is going to be just like the last one (new hardware release along with demo of new OS). I think you might be right - Apple IS hiding something from us. (It doesn't matter to me, anyway - I'm not buying a new Mac anytime soon.)
 
pjkelnhofer said:
What on the ADC site makes you think that? They haven't announced anything at all about it other than it's name. The only reference I can find for "Tiger" is that it will mention in Steve's keynote at WWDC.
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The wording just makes it sound more immediate than the wording in the Panther prerelease info. I guess it's mostly my opinion, though. :(

Maybe, though, Tiger will be released immediately after it is announced! Maybe the new G5s need something that is only half finished in this Panther release and a final 10.3.5 will add that something? Could this explain the 7,3 and 8,1 showing up?
 
dongmin said:
If this is true, coupled with the observation that even numbers (4,1 6,1 etc.) have designated iMacs, then it seems fairly reasonable to assume that a new form-factor G5 iMacs are on the way. Rather exciting to consider the possibilities. Will Apple retain the all-in-one design? (Most likely.) Or will Apple introduce a headless iMac as many have been clamoring for? (Dream on.)
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I think it will be a new and improved imac with G5 and a few otherthings thrown in. WWDC will be sweet but i wonder how fast a G5 they will use? 1.6 & 2.0? I doubt Apple would move to a cheaper headless unit for sake of marketshare because its plain as day they could care a less about marketshare. Thats why i say a new an improved G5 imac with about the same price points.
 
wrldwzrd89 said:
This just confirms my suspicions that Apple is planning MUCH more at WWDC than just demoing Tiger
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I agree we'll see hardware there. Plus a demo of Tiger for developers.

But we won't see Tiger introduced for consumers there or this summer - or for that matter (I don't think) in October/November.
 
dxp4acu said:
Oh wow!! If you look carefully at the pictures on this page:

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/index.html

you will see a G5 poster in the background!

WE'RE GETTING G5 MACS!!! The day has finally arrived!!!

I can't believe it.
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You sure about that? We ALREADY have G5s in the PowerMacs. I think there are two possibilities that can be drawn from this: 1. Apple is simply promoting the G5. 2. Apple is promoting the G5 more heavily than usual because some other Mac models are getting G5 processors at WWDC :)
 
dxp4acu said:
Oh wow!! If you look carefully at the pictures on this page:

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/index.html

you will see a G5 poster in the background!

WE'RE GETTING G5 MACS!!! The day has finally arrived!!!

I can't believe it.
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And why would they have photos of the WWDC shot BEFORE the event? The G5 was introduced at the WWDC last year, if you remember. That's where the photo came from.

:rolleyes:
 
Hasn't Apple always used odd numbers to designate their "Pro" products?
 
BenRoethig said:
My Guess:

7,3: Revision B PowerMac G5
8,1: The rumored X station. With the rumors about Apple working with ATI to offer FireGL cards, a new work station makes sense.
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that's exactly what I was thinking. this is the only capacity where the quad processors would come into play also.

I think now more than ever would be a great time to introduce them also. They are going to release Motion, this, coupled with all their other extremely processor intensive apps, would justify a quad-processor system. would truly put it against the Opteron since they have quad-processor boards for it.

but, who knows, I just think it's something Apple should do.

but on the other hand, the iMac really REALLY needs an update.
 
tother said:
me two cents is that apple needs to come out with a quad proc workstation to make stand in the vfx arena they entered when they bough out shake. i'm a compositor and we are still having to use pc for all vfx work (2d-3d). we all love macs and have them at home but they don't cut it for feature film/highend broadcast work. the g5's are fast but not enough, shake barely runs on a dual g5 and motion is a hog because of all the real-time. i believe we are going to see within the next year quad procs on both sides (mac/pc). programs and clients are getting more demanding and proc speeds are not climbing as high as they did in recent years. this seems to be the only logical route to take. i'm excited for it will be like a mini discreet inferno system for a 10th of the price. we will see and i hope it happens soon or apple might loose ground in this market no matter how cool there programs are.

late
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Hard to believe that shake doesn't run properly, as LOTR was made primarily with shake.. and pixar runs on g5's.. maybe they are just amateurs...
 
well weta did use shake for the lotr's but don't forgets that they are running on linux :)
 
video card upgrade adds 3-5 weeks... hmmm

Power Mac G5 Dual 2GHz Z07K 7-10 bus.days
stock video card 9600


Power Mac G5 Dual 2GHz Z07K 4-6 weeks
upgraded video card (9800 pro)

Anyone want to speculate why the 9800 pro card adds 3-5 weeks to delivery time?

No other mod changed the 7-10 day estimate.....any chance that the X800 card will be a stock for the mac?.... that card has the most amazing specs on the PC. But for $500+.... it better.




BenRoethig said:
My Guess:

7,3: Revision B PowerMac G5
8,1: The rumored X station. With the rumors about Apple working with ATI to offer FireGL cards, a new work station makes sense.
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