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joshuawaire said:
I hope for Apple's sake that they have the 3 GHz AND they are ready to ship right away. Although it might be asking a lot, I don't think the masses, 3 GHz or not, will approve of yet another delay to the PowerMac line. It will have already been a year since the G5 was released, so hopefully the new models will be shipping once they are announced - if people have to wait yet another 6 months to actually receive them, that's going to be viewed as a bit excessive, I'm sure.
LaMerVipere said:
Well, yes. I think I've already explained that in a few previous posts. It appears that the first two images are just photo-compositions of a grayscale (non-color) image that someone has tried to colorize (added color to the motherboard and graphics card). However, the final image (the cable connection) appears to be a full-color image. But to my eye, even the final image appears to have been retouched.
And in the other series of images (the existing G5) all three images are consistent and in full color. Those appear to be actual photos.
Current G5 Manual - No NEW Picture
I have gone through the current G5 Service Manual, page by page, and this picture does not appear. However I got a copy TODAY (6-3-04) more than 12 hours after the post at www.appleinsider.com, so Apple had plenty of time to change it.
www.appleinsider.com did have the part numbers for all the Laptop updates right.
I'm going to say this for posterity:
Don't be surprised to see new G5's before WWDC, so Steve Jobs can BRAG about keeping his 3.0GHZ promise.
Later... 🙂
I have gone through the current G5 Service Manual, page by page, and this picture does not appear. However I got a copy TODAY (6-3-04) more than 12 hours after the post at www.appleinsider.com, so Apple had plenty of time to change it.
www.appleinsider.com did have the part numbers for all the Laptop updates right.
I'm going to say this for posterity:
Don't be surprised to see new G5's before WWDC, so Steve Jobs can BRAG about keeping his 3.0GHZ promise.
Later... 🙂
i'm saying the fans are still there
I don't know where the idea the fans are gone comes from when looking at this. The intake ports on the front remain intact... I assume they will be moving air through them.
Mr.Hey said:🙂
I don't know where the idea the fans are gone comes from when looking at this. The intake ports on the front remain intact... I assume they will be moving air through them.
I hope it is not true, mainly because I think current Power Mac G5 are Babel Towers, waaaaaaay to big. No way I am putting that on or under my desktop. Bring on the cube!
Assuming Appleinsider got the images from somewhere other than the normal service website, there is little signs of this being a fake.
I think there is room for 8 RAM modules, from the angle the photo, and the hole in the metal separator (to operate the RAM clips though)- as mention by someone earlier.
I think it is a dual processor machine, as the heatsink is so massive. With two chips doing (in some tasks) uneven work, it makes sense to spread the heat from both over a massive surface. This would stop one heatsink getting very hot while the other stays cooler.
I think the lack of front fans is to cut down sound production- with the fans at the back sucking air through the heatsink, there is not really a need for them. There is no evidence of mounts for extra internal drives, so I doubt there is any more internal expandability.
The smaller motherboard brings it back down to a more standard size, and must reduce costs.
I think there is room for 8 RAM modules, from the angle the photo, and the hole in the metal separator (to operate the RAM clips though)- as mention by someone earlier.
I think it is a dual processor machine, as the heatsink is so massive. With two chips doing (in some tasks) uneven work, it makes sense to spread the heat from both over a massive surface. This would stop one heatsink getting very hot while the other stays cooler.
I think the lack of front fans is to cut down sound production- with the fans at the back sucking air through the heatsink, there is not really a need for them. There is no evidence of mounts for extra internal drives, so I doubt there is any more internal expandability.
The smaller motherboard brings it back down to a more standard size, and must reduce costs.
G4-power
macrumors 6502
AngryAngel said:
That's quite much what I thought too. The huge heatsink could have fans inside it, or at the back, sucking the air thorugh, just like AngryAngel said.
If there's no extra mounts for internal storage that's not good. I think that there might be some kind of mounts in front of the heatsink for some HD's, but maybe not.
But after all, I think this is fake, or not at all finished, so the next G5 will definitely not look like this inside, IMHO. Hope Steve keeps his promise, though... 😎
fpnc said:
Ok this is my opinion. Take it as you may, but I am saying this as a proffesional photographer and owner of a retouching business.
First things first. The 2 top images are not the same shots as the top 2 from the existing manual with a comped interior. I am 100% sure of this as there are far too many difference between the lighting, angles etc. A quick overlay in Photoshop will show you this clearly.
I am 90% sure that the structure that is shown in the new pictures DOES physically exist. HOWEVER there has been a serious amount of cosmetic retouching. Any still life photographer will tell you that a shot like this would be composited from a number of different exposures. In this case, at least for the external case and one for the interior.
All defects have been removed and the case has been colour neutralised (as mentioned). This is, however, a popular method of producing this type of image. The resulting photograph is very clean and illustrative, exactly what is needed for a service manual.
If the interior is completely fake, then it has been done extemely well with amzing attention to detail. However the natural looking reflections of the boards hint at the structure actually existing. The ultra flat appearance of the metal work show that it has been retouched (I assume for cosmetic reasons only). I think it's a real image, whether or not it was made for Apple, I don't know.
Whookam
LoonyPandora
macrumors newbie
TWinbrook46636 said:
Yeah, I'm a couple of rungs down the ladder, but the info AppleInsider gives is not true, the service manuals were not updated on the days they state they were. They imply that the manuals were published, by saying "Apple distributed..."
Also, my point stands, if this was a rev b, with such internal changes, it would get it's own service manual, the current G5 one would not be updated with new models.
From Appleinsider
Fact: These photos are not from the service manuals.
Opinion: These may be the new G5's, which AppleInsider incorrectly attributed to coming from a service manual. However, I think it is a photoshop job of a G5 with a PC Motherboard inside. 🙂
LoonyPandora
macrumors newbie
Cless said:
hehe, fair enough - I don't have a good track record with new machines - I thought the MDD G4's were fake when macbidouille published the photos. I just know that they aren't in the service manuals 😉
decksnap
macrumors 68040
sketchy
If they are a Photoshop rendering from Apple that would be one thing, but as far as I'm concerned, this was photoshopped. Especially the last 'detail' picture is very funky- like the connector was rubber stamped or something, and the shadows do not appear to be real. What is with the white glow around the connector in the second shot?
If they are a Photoshop rendering from Apple that would be one thing, but as far as I'm concerned, this was photoshopped. Especially the last 'detail' picture is very funky- like the connector was rubber stamped or something, and the shadows do not appear to be real. What is with the white glow around the connector in the second shot?
iriejedi
macrumors 6502a
FAKE! - Well I hope not!
Anyone notice that the right side 'old' picture that inside, the G5 coverplate is different. They should be identicle... no? 😕
Also if these were real - we would all have a cease and desist order from Stevie Wonder Jobs in our .Mac account (He's not blind). Speculation is not allowed by Apple Corporation. The fact that in 24 hours the Web Masters at Apple Insider are apparently still alive indicates to me that Apple is laughing at this picture and not steaming over it.
[Edit] Furthermore after more staring at the picture - there appears to be a piece removed on the lRight side to reveal the second piece (my aformentioned difference) - and, as this is a service manual.... you would think that the LEFT side would also have a piece removed in part 2 to show it's secondary level of components to access for service (left side seems the same minus the yellow arrow). Hmmm... I think this could possibly be less then 100% real.
Plus no reaction from Apple...Then again maybe only the iPod's seekrits matter now and Apple will discotinue its efforts in the PC market. 😱 So there will never be a new G5... ever... Man that would suck! 😡
Anyone notice that the right side 'old' picture that inside, the G5 coverplate is different. They should be identicle... no? 😕
Also if these were real - we would all have a cease and desist order from Stevie Wonder Jobs in our .Mac account (He's not blind). Speculation is not allowed by Apple Corporation. The fact that in 24 hours the Web Masters at Apple Insider are apparently still alive indicates to me that Apple is laughing at this picture and not steaming over it.
[Edit] Furthermore after more staring at the picture - there appears to be a piece removed on the lRight side to reveal the second piece (my aformentioned difference) - and, as this is a service manual.... you would think that the LEFT side would also have a piece removed in part 2 to show it's secondary level of components to access for service (left side seems the same minus the yellow arrow). Hmmm... I think this could possibly be less then 100% real.
Plus no reaction from Apple...Then again maybe only the iPod's seekrits matter now and Apple will discotinue its efforts in the PC market. 😱 So there will never be a new G5... ever... Man that would suck! 😡
decksnap said:
zerocuul said:
As someone pointed out in another thread, these images almost certainly could not have originated from a scan of a printed document (since the first two images contain absolutely no color noise or color tint in the grayscale parts of the image). Thus, is your service manual printed or a PDF or some other form of electronic document?
It seems fairly certain that these images could have only originated from a direct, digital source (i.e. a PDF document, something posted online at Apple's support website).
I dunno if anyone has posted this yet, but is it possible for the huge cowling, covering the smaller processors, to house the fans that were once located in front of the cowling as well?
LoonyPandora
macrumors newbie
LaMerVipere
macrumors 6502a
Hmm...
How come it seems as though we can't see or there isn't an ADC connector and DVI connector on the "new" G5 photo? Maybe it's just me, but I can't see it. Perhaps it's colour has changed on the "new" G5 and its not as obvious as the black ones on the "old" G5? 😕
How come it seems as though we can't see or there isn't an ADC connector and DVI connector on the "new" G5 photo? Maybe it's just me, but I can't see it. Perhaps it's colour has changed on the "new" G5 and its not as obvious as the black ones on the "old" G5? 😕
