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Pre-G5?
Um... did anyone think that these may be pre-production g5 manuals. Maybe they just had prototype pictures and mockups that they based their manual design off of before the final product had been completely designed. Why do they have to be rev B? Most of the inconsistencies seem illogical (fans, RAM, etc.), therefore supporting the idea that the pictures are pre-production shots or mock-ups. Whatever they are, I can't wait until WWDC.
Um... did anyone think that these may be pre-production g5 manuals. Maybe they just had prototype pictures and mockups that they based their manual design off of before the final product had been completely designed. Why do they have to be rev B? Most of the inconsistencies seem illogical (fans, RAM, etc.), therefore supporting the idea that the pictures are pre-production shots or mock-ups. Whatever they are, I can't wait until WWDC.
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thatwendigo said:
Actually, no we weren't.
And they should address the optical drive issue. Apple may not think its necessary, but since there are plenty of people who would love the option to put another drive in, they should add it in.
And like someone mentioned, there's no way this is going to be a quad G5. So much cooling would be required, even at the 90 nm process. Also, if software isn't properly written to utilize 2 processors now, won't it make it even more difficult to get developers to develop software to take advantage of quad processors? Or does software have to be written to utilize more procs at all? 😕
digiface said:
Hence that big hole on the bottom left that Apple isn't going to leave unfilled with something. 🙂
SWC said:
Well, the Sega Dreamcast used liquid cooling and you didn't see anyone complaining about that, did you?
You gotta love all the posts still acting like it's the real deal even after the numerous posts debunking it.
Anyway...
A real G5 can handle 1.25TB+ without any additional cooling. Take a look at this: http://barefeats.com/swift.html
Take note of his use of ThermographX to evaluate the temp with the drives installed.
Anyway...
keysersoze said:
A real G5 can handle 1.25TB+ without any additional cooling. Take a look at this: http://barefeats.com/swift.html
Take note of his use of ThermographX to evaluate the temp with the drives installed.
Brian Haworth said:
dreamcast used the same basic system as shuttle, its just a metal tube with thats transfers the heat from a metal block to a heatsink. There is no pump or anything like that. its just used in tight space enclosures.
Wonder Boy
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vouder17 said:
Incomplete, maybe
fake, NO
Remember these are on apples website. They may have been preproduction, or maybe jus a low end model without all the bells and whistles. It may be something we will never see produced, but it is NOT fake.
Is it just me or did we see something similar last year around the same time. maybe a lil later. Leaked g5 specs anyone. sure this is probobly much more of a mistake than that one, but who knows.
~dho
The "new" G5 images are not actual pictures!
I just downloaded the pictures that were posted on AI and I found a very interesting thing about the images that are supposed to be the "new" G5. I opened the image in Photoshop and sampled the colors and on the first two exterior shots every area on the "new" G5's metal skin and interior is a PURE grayscale (i.e. no color). Also, the cable in the middle shot is also a PURE grayscale (pure black and dark gray). However, on the "old" G5 the metal and cables contain slightly different values of red, green, and blue (near gray with a slight, varying color cast). However, in the bottom image of the "new" G5 the metal skin does show variation in color and so does the cable (i.e. it is not a pure grayscale image). Thus, it seems obvious to me that the first two pictures of the "new" G5 are either an artist's rendition or a hack of a set of grayscale images that have been modified to show color on the motherboard and graphics card. The last image (close-up of the cable) is something entirely different, but the shadows look a little odd to me so I think this is another "Photoshop" job. Thus, it appears certain that the images of the "new" G5 are not real pictures. I suspect that they are faked.
P.S. One of the administrators (Kasper) over on AI in response to a post saying that the pictures were fake said, "They are real. Confirmed after publication." Time will tell, I guess.
I just downloaded the pictures that were posted on AI and I found a very interesting thing about the images that are supposed to be the "new" G5. I opened the image in Photoshop and sampled the colors and on the first two exterior shots every area on the "new" G5's metal skin and interior is a PURE grayscale (i.e. no color). Also, the cable in the middle shot is also a PURE grayscale (pure black and dark gray). However, on the "old" G5 the metal and cables contain slightly different values of red, green, and blue (near gray with a slight, varying color cast). However, in the bottom image of the "new" G5 the metal skin does show variation in color and so does the cable (i.e. it is not a pure grayscale image). Thus, it seems obvious to me that the first two pictures of the "new" G5 are either an artist's rendition or a hack of a set of grayscale images that have been modified to show color on the motherboard and graphics card. The last image (close-up of the cable) is something entirely different, but the shadows look a little odd to me so I think this is another "Photoshop" job. Thus, it appears certain that the images of the "new" G5 are not real pictures. I suspect that they are faked.
P.S. One of the administrators (Kasper) over on AI in response to a post saying that the pictures were fake said, "They are real. Confirmed after publication." Time will tell, I guess.
psycho bob
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They MAY have been on apple's site but they aren't now. Lets face it the inside looks poor compared to the rev a models. The graphics card is a ATI 9600 exactly like in mine I can't see this making the new line up. The reduction in RAM slots also makes little sense, 2GB modules have been available for a while in certain types. Hell 4GB modules can be bought but DDR2, which surely will be used for the next models, is over twice the price of DDR 400 looking at crucial and the max size they stock are 512MB Dimms. Even DDR 400 is hard to find in Dimms over 1GB and is still very expensive. There doesn't appear to space to add any more slots either. I couldn't see the battery inside the thing either.
Looking at the front grill it also seems to be very blurred compared to the pic of the rev a model like someone has brushed out the details.
It is either not as elegant, a waste of internal space or a fake (at least not what the real ones will look like). I'll plump for the latter of those choices.
Looking at the front grill it also seems to be very blurred compared to the pic of the rev a model like someone has brushed out the details.
It is either not as elegant, a waste of internal space or a fake (at least not what the real ones will look like). I'll plump for the latter of those choices.
vouder17 said:
That's exactly why. Unified motherboard design across the product line.
Dualies and Quads for Pro's, singles for consumers. The boards that don't turn out as well get dumped into consumer goods, those that clock higher go into pro. Saves money in design and production.
It's quite reasonable to assume the G5 line would be a year for consumer goods and a year and a half or two for portables.
Pay no attention to the whiney bitches.
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arn said:
Arn - MacRumors' raison d'etre is a rumor conglomerator. Statistically you're bound to have runs from the same source.
caveman_uk said:
Exactly! I specifically did not upgrade to the G5 because I wanted 4 internal hard drives and 2 internal optical drives...actually I wanted more, but that's what fits in my Dual 1.42 G4. I still don't get it...a couple more inches on the top of the current G5 case and they could've fit another optical drive and at least two more hard drives.
MacSlut said:
Check out Firewire800 cases. It's plenty fast for real ATA drives. And the removability can be a benefit (unless you carry your machine around).
keysersoze said:
WOW, someone has been very creative with photoshop. I am susprised at how you are all so easily fooled
applemacdude
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Rattle said:
I dont know about that...remember people doubting the cube, fp imac...well we will see ia couple of weeks..
BlingBling 3k12 said:
That's all the RAM slots. The space in the middle shows that it is dual channel, 2 slots per channel.
Fair enough really, considering you can't have more RAM on a DDR channel at PC3200 speeds, you have to go down to PC2700, or worse, PC2100. Registered can help as can increasing the latency. Let's hope that each slot accepts 2GB DIMMs, or even the (currently very expensive) 4GB DIMMs.
There is enough space under that cover however for the northbridge, and 4 PowerPC 970FX's though, although I expect that Apple will only put two in, I don't think that Quad processors is something that Apple will do in the Apple Workstation arena.
I feel pretty confident that since the "new" G5 images posted on AI contained mixed full-color and pure grayscale components that these images are actually photo compositions or simply altered photos of the existing G5 design. Simply put, these are not actual photos.
LaMerVipere
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I am praying that it's a 3GHz G5 in there! I don't know why though, but these pics of the supposed new G5 look very unrealistic as opposed to the very real looking pics of the "old" aka current G5. the colours seem off (in the "new" G5) and it just looks very incomplete and dull, very unreal.
But please, 3GHz steve!
But please, 3GHz steve!
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SWC said:
That would only be true in a dual opteron system and even then you can still get away with not giving each CPU its own memory. In a G5 both processors share the same memory controller located in the system controller, each processor does not require its "own" RAM. Each Opteron has its own built in memory controller, if you don't give each processor its own dual channel RAM it can access the RAM "belonging" to another using the HT bus (the peer to peer one, not the system HT bus). You still need to install the RAM in matching pairs to take advantage of dual channel.
that makes sense considering rumors of a significantly hotter 975 in new g5s this would explain the large heatsinknagromme said:
also if his was a lowend/single it would explain the appearence of only 4 ram slots