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The groups decide if they need them. The rest of us get them as a bonus! Or we ignore them or put up with them.
Some people take the month of November and give up shaving (or they give up something else). I don't know why, but they do it. I don't need to participate if I don't want to. Retailers have decided we need a month (or more) to celebrate Christmas. Some religious traditions extend it an extra twelve days afterward. Then some people do a month and a half of Lent, where they deprive themselves of something different than they did in November. You don't have to participate.
LGBT+ people have chosen to celebrate in June, to commemorate when some of them fought back against police harassment in June of 1969. We didn't all get together and vote on it. Different cities had their celebrations at different times in June (and some do it at other times of the year). When people noticed the pattern, they decided to call it Pride Month. It's a grass roots thing. There's no national or international organization that actually has the power to govern this.
Pride doesn't get the month to itself, of course. June is also National Caribbean-American Heritage Month, African-American Music Appreciation Month, National PTSD Awareness Month, and National Great Outdoors Month. If you don't think you personally need a month for those groups, you're free to not celebrate them either.
Same logic for holidays... Human beings like to celebrate what is important to them. Try joining🙂
Yeah 1984 style uniformity, under your terms of what's correct right...
George Orwell
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
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The cleary homophobic sentiment of some members comments on this forum is extremely disappointing and really does show we have a long way to go before we are all truly seen as equal.
It is also not just June for LGBTQ, it is spread out all over the year with different days for different things inside the rainbow.
There is a difference though with the Pride month for those who take issue with the lifestyle. Depending on your job and where you work, it can actually be pushed on you to visibly show support. While some take issue for religious reasons but are not vocal on it and simply refrain from being involved, they now have to show support because of their job. I know police officers and teachers who basically have to wear pride flags for things that goes against their religious beliefs. Again they are not attacking the community but don't want to take part in it but are forced to show support.
im a minority. i dont got no wallpaper devoted to me. sure, everyone gets their time in the spotlight. but my goodness this group gets an abundance of it. that's not equality. it's religion.
Depending on your job and where you work, you can be punished if you DO show support for LGBTQ causes.
Donald Trump has ordered that all trans service members be fired. The Supreme Court says that the order can take effect. Right now the pressure and coercion is going the opposite way from what you describe. Are you upset, or do you think coercion is okay if it oppresses things that bother you?
Yes, there are days throughout the year for LGBTQ observations. There are days throughout the year for everyone! St. Patrick's Day. St. Valentine's Day, Donut Day. A week for appreciating teachers. A day for mothers. A day for grandparents. A day for giving. Some legislator is Texas is trying to make April a month for celebrating promises kept by the Christian god.
If people are being pushed to support something they don't want to, then I'm okay with them pushing back. Against that pressure.
Getting rid of the thing they don't support isn't the answer.
It's religion the way Christmas and Halloween and Mardi Gras and Spring Break are religion. It comes every year and a lot of people who aren't part of the group are affected. They either play along or they ignore it or they go to war against it.
Nor do I understand why anyone would think veterans are necessarily right wing.
I agree completely. It’s an enormous turn off to the forum honestly.
Religion is religion, human rights are human rights, equality is equality and kindness is kindness. Oh and guess what…….bigotry is ……..
why does the b word get bandied around a lot. I’ve said nothing disparaging towards anyone. Really. You don’t know me or what I actually do. If you actually did I’d be very surprised if you’d have the gall to call me that. But that damaging word gets wielded so easily everyone now has to keep in line and not say anything even slightly not resembling the acceptable discourse. Hateful, or not.
Not out of the goodness of their hearts, but out of fear of being bullied into religious submission. It’s nuts.
You are seen as equal. That's the thing. If you're equal, you don't need special wallpapers and parades and whole entire months. Just like everyone else.
Your post read as a bit of disparagement and intolerance (at least a touch) towards a group different from your own.
Bigotry has a definition, and that fits it.
Maybe you perceive it as a loaded term, but it's honestly just a word and those have definitions.
Perhaps we are reading you wrong and you could clarify your stance towards LGBTQ+?
Being ‘seen as equal’ on paper doesn’t mean you’re treated equally in reality.
Black people are ‘equal’ too, does that mean racism’s over?
Women are ‘equal’, does that mean sexism’s gone?
Equality isn’t about ignoring difference. It’s about creating a world where people are safe and proud to exist as themselves.
Pride isn’t about special treatment. It’s about survival, visibility, and joy in the face of centuries of shame.
Straight people don’t need parades because they’ve never been jailed, beaten, disowned, or murdered for holding hands.
This last line is brilliant and so perfectly encapsulates the entire situation
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If I complain that my group gets less of a spotlight than another group that instead gets a whole month devoted to them, and their own Apple Watch band, that’s me disparaging that group? Keep in mind I’m not saying at all that I cannot tolerate them. How? How was I being in any way reductive to the lgbtq community, in any way? This is exactly my point. I am only guilty of not conforming to the same speech pattern. And so all of the sudden I’m put in the “bigotry” box that is somehow made to fit my made up crime. That feels insanely offensive to me and also speaks to the growing intolerance of this world, going the other way. Let’s use the b word less freely. I feel like that would make a better world.
How sad for you and other’s pettiness thinking in those zero sum terms. Don’t like pride events don’t attend, don’t like pride focused products don’t buy them. Don’t like the lifestyle don’t join.
Same logic applies to the myriad of holidays, ethnic, lifestyle, nationality, religious celebrations Maybe abundance is a code word that some use.
I’ve always felt the greatness of our country is freedom of expression, in other countries a rooftop one way visit, window “accidents” or other horrible events are common. For all deemed enemies of the state, social, or religious code. This greatness looks fragile these days.
Have you read this back to yourself a few times?
As I'd said before, the "tone" felt disparaging even if it wasn't intended.
I'll leave it at that.
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There is some context needed and it is not simply "because you are trans and we don't like trans so you are fired." I believe there is legitimate questions regarding the standards needed for the military. I don't know what that is, I am not American, but have no issue with certain requirements and not being altered for the sake of inclusion in certain fields like police, military and fire.
There is no pushing back here, pushing back generally means something on your record and you have to do it anyways or being let go. I am all for protecting freedoms of people but think it has swung so far that if even dare question peacefully then you are labeled with the worst labels like nazi, racist, fascist and other names.
Always a little concerning when the "but" comes along in the sentence...