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New Product Releases on the 19th?
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Re: Once the rumors will be right
Not necessarily, suppose new powerbooks are never announced.
Also, suppose that the day that you post 'next week - new pb', new powerbooks are announced. In this case, you'll have resigned your announcement from last week, instead claiming that new powerbooks will arrive 'next' week, yet they arrive 'this week'. In fact this sort of thing is very likely to happen unless you make all of your announcements at the end of the week.
Not necessarily, suppose new powerbooks are never announced.
Also, suppose that the day that you post 'next week - new pb', new powerbooks are announced. In this case, you'll have resigned your announcement from last week, instead claiming that new powerbooks will arrive 'next' week, yet they arrive 'this week'. In fact this sort of thing is very likely to happen unless you make all of your announcements at the end of the week.
I don't mean to fan the fires of speculation, but I thought I'd add my own thoughts.
I placed an order for a 15" PowerBook about a week ago, but it's backordered so I don't have it just yet. Yesterday I got a call from the campus computer store (who I placed the order with) saying that they had just talked to Apple's ed department and that the 15" PowerBooks would be backordered an additional 2 1/2 weeks. Once again, this could mean nothing, but that would put the release date timeframe precisely after the August 18-19 release.
Like everyone else, I've grown incredibly cynical and skeptical of these rumors after hearing them for about 6 months, but they do have to release them *sometime*, right? This seems to make sense. I'm actually excited this time...
I placed an order for a 15" PowerBook about a week ago, but it's backordered so I don't have it just yet. Yesterday I got a call from the campus computer store (who I placed the order with) saying that they had just talked to Apple's ed department and that the 15" PowerBooks would be backordered an additional 2 1/2 weeks. Once again, this could mean nothing, but that would put the release date timeframe precisely after the August 18-19 release.
Like everyone else, I've grown incredibly cynical and skeptical of these rumors after hearing them for about 6 months, but they do have to release them *sometime*, right? This seems to make sense. I'm actually excited this time...
Year till the notebook
Maybe by "year of the notebook," Jobs really meant:
"You'll have to wait a year till our new notebooks come out."
Maybe by "year of the notebook," Jobs really meant:
"You'll have to wait a year till our new notebooks come out."
Take a step back
NO ONE seems to think a g5 is possible, but why not?
If the g5 were at 1.2 ghz in the 15 and 17 and the 12 had a 1.3 ghz g4 why not?
Heat, no heat wouldn't be bAd at 1.2 ghz, i mean just look at those 2.8 ghz pc laptops, if the pc industry can do it why not apple, and as for battery consumption, if apple were to put in a 76 insted of a 55 or some crap like that it would be fine.
SO WHY NOT!?
NO ONE seems to think a g5 is possible, but why not?
If the g5 were at 1.2 ghz in the 15 and 17 and the 12 had a 1.3 ghz g4 why not?
Heat, no heat wouldn't be bAd at 1.2 ghz, i mean just look at those 2.8 ghz pc laptops, if the pc industry can do it why not apple, and as for battery consumption, if apple were to put in a 76 insted of a 55 or some crap like that it would be fine.
SO WHY NOT!?
I think the rumored announcements in a week or two are significant not because of what they may announce, but because Apple would not try to keep two balls up in the air at the same time. What I mean is, the G5s would likely have to ship before Apple announces a second major revision to a product line. So what I think we'll see is the formal announcement of shipping G5s in the next couple of days, and then perhaps the long-awaited announcement of PowerBooks or new displays.
I think that actually the sole reason new PowerBooks have not been announced is because Apple was placing more import on the G5, and since they were very likely delayed, the launch date for PowerBooks would have to be pushed back.
I think that actually the sole reason new PowerBooks have not been announced is because Apple was placing more import on the G5, and since they were very likely delayed, the launch date for PowerBooks would have to be pushed back.
Re: Year till the notebook
Haha.
I'm one of the few fortunate students that doesn't start until Sep. 30, so I'm holding out.
Haha.
I'm one of the few fortunate students that doesn't start until Sep. 30, so I'm holding out.
Re: Take a step back
Heat dissipation in a notebook is very troublesome. I remember when the first Ti CD-rw's came... People got scolded.
I had a Pentium 4 @ 2.8 GHz. That thing made a fan noise that, when you compare it to the Ti667 at full fan speed, sounded like a boeing taking off compared to the average house-fan.
Really. My powersupply had a separate built-in fan to compensate for the immense heat produced when it tried to generate enough power. Did I mention it sucked my dual-battery system dry in about two hours? (If I was lucky and just listened to MP3's with the screen off.)
Oh, and I was raised in a cardboard box on the m5 and my father made me walk 15 miles through snow... If I was lucky...
But I was serious about the battery part.
Well, for one, the G5 has a totally different architecture than the G4. You can't say a processor will be hotter just by simply comparing clock speeds.
Heat dissipation in a notebook is very troublesome. I remember when the first Ti CD-rw's came... People got scolded.
I had a Pentium 4 @ 2.8 GHz. That thing made a fan noise that, when you compare it to the Ti667 at full fan speed, sounded like a boeing taking off compared to the average house-fan.
Really. My powersupply had a separate built-in fan to compensate for the immense heat produced when it tried to generate enough power. Did I mention it sucked my dual-battery system dry in about two hours? (If I was lucky and just listened to MP3's with the screen off.)
Oh, and I was raised in a cardboard box on the m5 and my father made me walk 15 miles through snow... If I was lucky...
But I was serious about the battery part.
Re: Take a step back
Because as Steve said during the keynote, the G5 is more than just a CHIP. It's a new system. You aren't gonna get the kind of perfomance out of the G5 that apple's getting unless you can somehow fit that Mobo into the PB. I seriously doubt that Apple designed a new MOBO for both the PowerMac and the PowerBook at the same time.
Further more, I'd be very suprised if Apple brings out G5 PowerBooks any time soon, they would seriously hurt the sales (at least PROsumer sales) of the PowerMacs.
You can't just slap the chip into an exisiting Mobo and it's not fair to compare the G5 to the Pentium 4 2.8GHz, it's not a linear scale where GHz = Heat.
Also did you see the SIZE of those heat sinks on the G5's in the PM? Come on, can we for once not get our hopes up so high that we are not disappointed when Apple releases an update that is not what our wildest fantasies are?
Everyone should be still impressed with the PM announcement. Apple's not gonna replace the G5 on the front page of the site with a PowerBook so it's not gonna be a G5.
And as far as the displays go...I am glad someone echoed my thoughts, Apple would NOT have made the G5 commercial with a Cinema Display if a new one is around the corner, there would just have been the G5.
Ok enuff ranting
MacboyX
Because as Steve said during the keynote, the G5 is more than just a CHIP. It's a new system. You aren't gonna get the kind of perfomance out of the G5 that apple's getting unless you can somehow fit that Mobo into the PB. I seriously doubt that Apple designed a new MOBO for both the PowerMac and the PowerBook at the same time.
Further more, I'd be very suprised if Apple brings out G5 PowerBooks any time soon, they would seriously hurt the sales (at least PROsumer sales) of the PowerMacs.
You can't just slap the chip into an exisiting Mobo and it's not fair to compare the G5 to the Pentium 4 2.8GHz, it's not a linear scale where GHz = Heat.
Also did you see the SIZE of those heat sinks on the G5's in the PM? Come on, can we for once not get our hopes up so high that we are not disappointed when Apple releases an update that is not what our wildest fantasies are?
Everyone should be still impressed with the PM announcement. Apple's not gonna replace the G5 on the front page of the site with a PowerBook so it's not gonna be a G5.
And as far as the displays go...I am glad someone echoed my thoughts, Apple would NOT have made the G5 commercial with a Cinema Display if a new one is around the corner, there would just have been the G5.
Ok enuff ranting
MacboyX
You know, that's funny. A couple weeks ago, my 15" PB jumped off the bed (seriously, I was in another room), and broke one of its two hinges. I was convinced it would behave exactly like yours, at best. But no, it's still perfectly usable. It will flop down slooooowly if it's within about 45 degrees of horizontal, but that's hardly that big of a problem.
Still, I'm needin that updated 17"...
it's official then
i am going to wait until the 19th and i'll be buying whatever 15pb is out. i prefer an update, but i don't think i should be leaving for school later that week without expecting something to be shipped to me.
i think i can get by without a laptop during orientation, but once classes begin for serious i'll need something.
but this new rumor is the deadline.
i am going to wait until the 19th and i'll be buying whatever 15pb is out. i prefer an update, but i don't think i should be leaving for school later that week without expecting something to be shipped to me.
i think i can get by without a laptop during orientation, but once classes begin for serious i'll need something.
but this new rumor is the deadline.
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
And this is the n th rumor of this that we've had.
I guess its just a matter of time before it happens. I really wonder what the delay has been....
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do you think they would ever tell us the real reason?
Re: it's official then
As a recent graduate from uconn, trust me, you dont need a computer until maybe week 2 for actual work. but it is nice to play games and download "relation" type films. you'll get by the first couple weeks, be patient if the update is what you really want.
As a recent graduate from uconn, trust me, you dont need a computer until maybe week 2 for actual work. but it is nice to play games and download "relation" type films. you'll get by the first couple weeks, be patient if the update is what you really want.
I know there are loads of people itching for a new 15" Powerbook, but for me its nice to know that even after 7 months my 15" Ti Powerbook is still state of the Apple art - for its size.
I dont know how it compares to a 7 month old PC equivalent, but its still plenty good enough to see me through to the day I take delivery of a G6 Powerbook. Good job Macs are really well built for the long haul!
I dont know how it compares to a 7 month old PC equivalent, but its still plenty good enough to see me through to the day I take delivery of a G6 Powerbook. Good job Macs are really well built for the long haul!
Re: Re: Take a step back
Just a hunch but I think apple probably has more than 1 team working on new motherboards, Im sure they could work on these at the same time.
To most people this is not an overlapping market. You generally are either shopping for a desktop or a laptop. Usually laptops cost more to come close to the same performance as a desktop.
If other designers can put intel and amd DESKTOP chips into a laptop Im sure apple can put the G5 into a laptop.
BTW I really hope your wildest fantasies arent about computers.
I personally think the next powerbooks will have G4's but I think its because they are currently limited on supply of the G5 not for any heat reasons or lack or design.
Just a hunch but I think apple probably has more than 1 team working on new motherboards, Im sure they could work on these at the same time.
To most people this is not an overlapping market. You generally are either shopping for a desktop or a laptop. Usually laptops cost more to come close to the same performance as a desktop.
If other designers can put intel and amd DESKTOP chips into a laptop Im sure apple can put the G5 into a laptop.
BTW I really hope your wildest fantasies arent about computers.
Everyone should be still impressed with the PM announcement. Apple's not gonna replace the G5 on the front page of the site with a PowerBook so it's not gonna be a G5.
And as far as the displays go...I am glad someone echoed my thoughts, Apple would NOT have made the G5 commercial with a Cinema Display if a new one is around the corner, there would just have been the G5.
Ok enuff ranting
MacboyX
I personally think the next powerbooks will have G4's but I think its because they are currently limited on supply of the G5 not for any heat reasons or lack or design.
Re: Re: Once the rumors will be right
DIE!!! Curse you. CURSE YOU!!!
Okay okay, I'm joking. But seriously, no more talking.
You don't need it right away, but you're right, this rumour should be it. I'm tired of all this bullsquat being spewed left and right. This board makes me depressed sometimes. For every piece of great news, there are 5 disappointments.
DIE!!!
Curse you. CURSE YOU!!! Okay okay, I'm joking. But seriously, no more talking.
You don't need it right away, but you're right, this rumour should be it. I'm tired of all this bullsquat being spewed left and right. This board makes me depressed sometimes.
For every piece of great news, there are 5 disappointments.PB G5's
Actually, they've been working on the MLB's for G5 PowerBooks.
The MB itself is expected to be *available* to Apple in January.
Which means a G5 Powerbook could hit Feb or March depending upon other components. (Could be later, especially if apple wants only the die shrunk processors for the powerbooks. But the mlb's will be ready by Jan.)
Jaedreth
Actually, they've been working on the MLB's for G5 PowerBooks.
The MB itself is expected to be *available* to Apple in January.
Which means a G5 Powerbook could hit Feb or March depending upon other components. (Could be later, especially if apple wants only the die shrunk processors for the powerbooks. But the mlb's will be ready by Jan.)
Jaedreth
Well I'm personally still waiting for a new system before school starts (starts the 18th) though I'm a junior+ and to buy a powerbook now seems stupid (though i could end up waiting another 2 months). I'm definately the type of person that if i bought something right now and something new and HOPEFULLY vastly improved came out in a month i'd be very pissed off. As far as computers go when I buy something that costs as much as a laptop (specifically a powerbook) does I want the newest at the time i buy it, and I could NEVER say that about the 15" at this point. I have a desktop, the school has plenty of labs, in all reality no one NEEDS a laptop in college, it just makes life easier. If you say you NEED one in college RIGHT away then you have serious problems. However, if you're happy with your purchase of a 12/17" or the even older 15" ti book then by all means you have just gotten a great deal on a laptop.
True, though unless you live far away from campus (though it doesn't really matter if you're a full time student) and you don't have a desktop accessible you can go through college w/o a computer/laptop (though i wouldn't recommend it)
. Even if i didn't have a desktop at school I'd wait for an update at this point.One thing i was thinking about was if the new 15" comes out within the next two months and it's just a 7457 with a few improvements I might try to scoop up an older 15" because at that point the prices will be even lower (i'm assuming) for a "new" one and even less for a used on.
Then again, the 18th/19th may come and go without any words from Apple, and how many of us would be surprised? Certainly not me.
Hi. I'm newbie here.
Even if new PB released on Aug 19, We wont get it for a month or more...maybe. Sorry if I'm wrong. But I need laptop computer so bad right now. And I have enough money to buy it...but...
How long did it take to ship the last 15 PB anyway?
Even if new PB released on Aug 19, We wont get it for a month or more...maybe. Sorry if I'm wrong. But I need laptop computer so bad right now. And I have enough money to buy it...but...
How long did it take to ship the last 15 PB anyway?
Guys, dont worry..
I just got my 17" last week, so I am certain there will be updates next week!
honestly, at best, I bet if there is an announcement, its bluetooth peripherals; so they are to market to coincide with the g5, and be ready for the new 15, which will be released in sept at macworld paris.
I just got my 17" last week, so I am certain there will be updates next week!
honestly, at best, I bet if there is an announcement, its bluetooth peripherals; so they are to market to coincide with the g5, and be ready for the new 15, which will be released in sept at macworld paris.