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New Report Confirms 'iPhone 7' and 'iPhone 7 Plus' Names, Effectively Ending 'iPhone 7 Pro' Rumors
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Well I do believe that words have meaning and I can't imagine another meaning. The fact that Apple marketing decided to call a non-Pro device Pro does not mean I am going to get sucked in regardless of the millions of dollars they spent making an absurd definition. I understand that it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to go around telling your friends that you use a pro device. No me, I want to actually use a Pro device, regardless of what my friends think.
By your response very few words have meaning and that is the problem with a lot of things today, including marketing and politics. Both of which only seem to work when you redefine words to have no meaning. People should just look at the MacBook Pro and say, "What a crock!" That is no longer a Pro device. It used to be, but Apple's current management has made it a toy, sure maybe a useable toy, but a toy none-the-less.
I really want to go with the regular iPhone 7 as I miss the one handed ability with a smaller phone but I know I'm likely gonna be suckered into the bumped up specs of the Plus.
Of course they are going to name them 'iPhone 7' and 'iPhone 7 Plus'....
calling them 6SS would be a marketing mess, perhaps like shooting themselves in the foot since the galaxy s7 and note 7 were released this year.
calling them 6SS would be a marketing mess, perhaps like shooting themselves in the foot since the galaxy s7 and note 7 were released this year.
Ahhhh I totally agree man. I can tell this is going to be a thoughtful/friendly post that I will look back on for generations to come....maybe we can even be best friends and do Kung fu in the garage
Noooooo. Knife right through the freaking heart man. That tonal shift...oh god. Whyyyyy with the assumptions man? Why assume I go around calling my iPad a "pro" device instead of what I actually said, which was that the "pro" in anything these days is a highly malleable term that can mean different things to different people. Which is completely true.
Unless you completely fall prey to flashy marketing, you'd be privy enough to see right through that BS. Some things are obvious to some people immediately, others...need to be explained. It was obvious to most people "pro" in "iPad Pro" simply meant a device with more than the regular iPad. Specifically regarding hardware upgrades like the smart connector and pencil. Ever played "word association" games? Well associated "pro" to mean "slightly better" than whatever it came after. The MacBook Pro is better than the MacBook Air, but not by quantum leaps. It's not like a Mac Pro.
By like...reality dude. Not just my response. Take a psychology class and you'll immediately learn a few tricks by accident into how to get people thinking in a certain way.
Same in this case with "pro" my friend. "Pro" as of late has had a lax meaning. It doesn't mean more inputs or military grade this or that. Nope. It simply means "Can do a bit more". In reality, the iPad Pro 9.7 could have been the iPad Air 3. "Pro" is apple's attempt at changing the idea in people's heads about these machines. "Tablet" in our minds is associated with "mobile OS" which is associated with "watered down and can't do a damn thing". Adding "pro" is all psychological to make people believe their device can do more and therefore a $100 markup is justified. If Apple intended to make this product more pro-ish, they would have had a big upgrade for iOS 10. But they are intentionally holding back.
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The assumed names of this year's iPhone lineup -- "iPhone 7" and "iPhone 7 Plus" -- have been confirmed by "reliable sources" speaking with Japanese site Mac Otakara. The sources said that Apple is following this name scheme to avoid confusion of having back-to-back iPhones with "S" in the name, even though the iPhone 7 will largely be a minor update over the iPhone 6s.
The new report nixes the chance for an additional third tier "iPhone 7 Pro," which was a rumored dual-lens alternative to the single-lens "iPhone 7 Plus" early in the rumor cycle. The less-powerful camera option was said to be created by Apple as a fallback in case the dual-lens technology didn't pan out. Now that everything seems to be going well for the company in this area, and mockups have repeatedly shown a dual-lens camera enclosure, it makes sense for Apple to revert to the well-known "Plus" moniker for its next-generation 5.5-inch dual-lens iPhone, and drop any reference to "Pro" altogether.
Otherwise, Mac Otakara reiterates on the expected rumors of the iPhone 7: there won't be a 3.5 mm headphone jack, it will house an A10 chip, and it will introduce a new flush, capacitive Home Button in lieu of the traditional physical switch. That last aspect of the new iPhone has been a bit more up in the air in the weeks ahead of the September launch, since it's hard to fully decipher whether recent image mockups confirm one way or the other if the Home Button is pressure-sensitive or not.
It's believed that the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus will be revealed at an Apple event on September 7, with pre-orders beginning two days later on September 9. A recent leak from AT&T has pushed back the reported launch of the new iPhone, however, suggesting that Apple could be preparing a wide release on September 23, although the original rumor of September 16 is also still a viable option.
Article Link: New Report Confirms 'iPhone 7' and 'iPhone 7 Plus' Names, Effectively Ending 'iPhone 7 Pro' Rumors
A new rumor has ended previous rumors. What characters do I need to type to do an eye roll on this forum?
It's like making up a term, like "Retina", so you don't have to improve screen resolution.
I fully expect them to call it a 6SE or something. It's nearly identical to the 6/6S body at first glance and doesn't deserve the "leap" to a new number.
Yep and companies keep doing because no one will stand up at the next "Next Great Thing" event and say that statement is crap. No one of MacRumors staff will publish a comment that calling the MacBook Pros a pro device is deceptive and outrageous. In order to get Apple back on track they need feedback, not sitting around justifying what they do because everyone does it. Apple is starting to believe their own PR. That is never good.
The assumed names of this year's iPhone lineup -- "iPhone 7" and "iPhone 7 Plus" -- have been confirmed by "reliable sources" speaking with Japanese site Mac Otakara. The sources said that Apple is following this name scheme to avoid confusion of having back-to-back iPhones with "S" in the name, even though the iPhone 7 will largely be a minor update over the iPhone 6s.
The new report nixes the chance for an additional third tier "iPhone 7 Pro," which was a rumored dual-lens alternative to the single-lens "iPhone 7 Plus" early in the rumor cycle. The less-powerful camera option was said to be created by Apple as a fallback in case the dual-lens technology didn't pan out. Now that everything seems to be going well for the company in this area, and mockups have repeatedly shown a dual-lens camera enclosure, it makes sense for Apple to revert to the well-known "Plus" moniker for its next-generation 5.5-inch dual-lens iPhone, and drop any reference to "Pro" altogether.
Otherwise, Mac Otakara reiterates on the expected rumors of the iPhone 7: there won't be a 3.5 mm headphone jack, it will house an A10 chip, and it will introduce a new flush, capacitive Home Button in lieu of the traditional physical switch. That last aspect of the new iPhone has been a bit more up in the air in the weeks ahead of the September launch, since it's hard to fully decipher whether recent image mockups confirm one way or the other if the Home Button is pressure-sensitive or not.
It's believed that the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus will be revealed at an Apple event on September 7, with pre-orders beginning two days later on September 9. A recent leak from AT&T has pushed back the reported launch of the new iPhone, however, suggesting that Apple could be preparing a wide release on September 23, although the original rumor of September 16 is also still a viable option.
Article Link: New Report Confirms 'iPhone 7' and 'iPhone 7 Plus' Names, Effectively Ending 'iPhone 7 Pro' Rumors
Every time Apple has changed the name numerically of an iPhone, it's been along with an external redesign. If this years iPhone is as rumoured; why give it a new number. So what other option? 6SE? terrible name it's just 6S(?), denoting failure to change things and confusing this years SE, and maybe next years SE2? This years is looking like a 6SS, also a terrible name. How about quitting the numbering thing all together, introducing the "iPhone".
Many benefits to this name.
It clears the slate for next years, "iPhone10" the 10th anniversary addition that is already rumoured to have a big external redesign.
The iPhones biggest rival is Samsungs S7. When Apple last released a flagship phone, the rival was a S6, Apples was the 6S. There's lots in a name. Samsung increases their number every year Apple every 2. So as of next year Samsung outnumbers Apple. This is avoided by dropping the number game this year and jumping to the 10 at least for next year. Just "iPhone" SE or Plus otherwise.
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Anyone by chance know where I can download a 3D model file (i.e., .stl file) so I can print a iPhone 7 or iPhone 7 Plus? I know geeky, but I just got a cheap 3D printer and thought it would be fun. I suppose a 6s/6s+ would probably be close enough of course. Thanks!
I'm a web developer that develops sites for companies using big data analytics, using machine learning, and other very processor intensive projects. I have a Macbook Pro (spec-ed out of course) that handles everything without a problem. I usually have 3+ VMs running a hadoop cluster, and its never been a problem. I have co workers doing the same thing using PC, and they are always over heating, having to add more RAM, and wanting to upgrade their PC every year. My Mac is 3 years old and stomps them. So I'm curious what your doing that a MacBook Pro is 'professional' enough for you.
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There is no doubt these will be the best iPhones Apple has ever made, .[/QUOTE]
I love these quotes, as if any company is gonna make a new model inferior to the previous one.. lol how's it going timmy?
There is no doubt these will be the best iPhones Apple has ever made, .[/QUOTE]
I love these quotes, as if any company is gonna make a new model inferior to the previous one.. lol how's it going timmy?
From what I read, the pro model was a contingency plan in case Apple couldn't secure enough dual-camera modules for all its plus iPhone models. Now that Apple has apparently ironed out its supply issues, we should see all plus models ship with the dual camera design.
It's not so much a cancellation as it is a consolidation. We should be getting the improved camera in the plus model without having to fork out more money. It boggles me how anyone can spin this as a bad thing.