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Apple seems to be very concerned about battery life.

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It's futile Apple, in less than year Samsung will end up copying everything that comes out of your labs anyway.

Correct. Apple will copy everything about it. But one year advantage is something Apple want to achieve.
 
Crap! Facebook on Apple Watch. Apple Watch seems like a gimmick now.

Sorry, I don't see the logic. Very, very bad idea.

Got to talk to Tim.
 
some developers like Starwood have had to use computer simulations and cardboard cutouts to explain to the designers who weren't invited to Cupertino how its app would work.

They might have done, but that picture looks like the "mock-up" that was front page news here on Macrumors in the middle of pre :apple: Watch frenzy that got everyone annoyed. It as literally some dude with cellotape and a printer saying "this is what an iWatch will look like" and it hit front news.:rolleyes:
 
Yo are assuming there is utility apps can leverage out of this hardware and os.
But why? What are you going to do in 10 seconds that has any real utility

You are assuming Apps in Watch = Apps in Phone / Tablet.
 
Sounds like apps on the watch are going to be more like iOS8 widgets, and not 'proper' apps.

Checking sport scores, weather updates, incoming messages.

Until Apple opens up the API's later this year, we won't be seeing full native apps.
 
They might have done, but that picture looks like the "mock-up" that was front page news here on Macrumors in the middle of pre :apple: Watch frenzy that got everyone annoyed. It as literally some dude with cellotape and a printer saying "this is what an iWatch will look like" and it hit front news.:rolleyes:

That's where I got it from....
 
I was just thinking that the watch must be welded to the table or something for security

Probably worn on the wrists of a bunch of ex-special forces guys, who will be always vigilant, and have explained the 'penalties' for not following the rules.......
 
It's futile Apple, in less than year Samsung will end up copying everything that comes out of your labs anyway.

Yes, but as long as they keep doing so, people will just buy Apple products.

The S6 seemed to annoy a lot of people because of it's lack of removable battery, waterproofing, etc. Customers who wanted an iPhone 6 bought one, they didn't wait for the Samsung clone... A part from the few who really hate Apple.
 
I get that secrecy is a cultural value at Apple, but at a rational level I don't see what harm bringing in a notepad would do at this point. It's not like they've figured out how to do something that's never been done before; they've just done it their own way.

Because Apple wants (needs) firm control of the narrative. There is still a lot of mystery attached to the watch and Apple wants to keep it that way for maximum impact next Monday. It's not about thwarting industrial spying at this point -- it's about media spies.
 
some developers like Starwood have had to use computer simulations and cardboard cutouts to explain to the designers who weren't invited to Cupertino how its app would work.

I still remember the day this made the front page of Mac Rumors. Oh the lolz....

Ain't it funny how all the predictions were based on the existing OS design. No one got close to the new app layout.
 
I like that Apple keeps new products a secret. I actually miss the old days when we had more surprises. Today Apple is so high profile as soon as some tidbit of info makes it out the door it's leaked.

I keep hoping one of these announcement presentations we get a "one more thing" and it's something we didn't expect.

The irony... here I sit looking at rumor sites. Darn... catch 22. :eek:
 
Sounds like apps on the watch are going to be more like iOS8 widgets, and not 'proper' apps.

Checking sport scores, weather updates, incoming messages.

Until Apple opens up the API's later this year, we won't be seeing full native apps.

Which is exactly what Apple has said.
 
Which is exactly what Apple has said.

Exactly, I just think it's worth mentioning.

I get the impression reading posts on here that a lot of people are expecting fully functioning Facebook/Twitter/RSS/Reddit/Games type apps to be announced on Monday, and are going to be very dissapointed.
 
Apple seems to be very concerned about battery life.

If they were that concerned about battery life then Tim Cook had no business giving the watch such a high profile launch. I think the Execs at One Infinite Loop understand when and when not to go all out on a product launch. For all of them this is the most important product launch of their professional lives because if it flops -- because of poor battery life or anything else -- it's a serious black eye on them and Apple. The ramifications are too brutal to ponder.

Apple execs on at least two occasions, one recently by Tim Cook, stated all day battery life. So that is where they have set expectations. Now we just have to see exactly what kind of usage during the day qualifies the battery to last 18 hours and if it meets the average non-tech user's definition of lasting all day. I'm confident it will because too much is at stake for it not to.
 
As opposed to the several watches they've been offering for a few years now?

All of which are half baked ideas.

Their next watch will feature swappable straps and bands, a taptic feedback engine and a digital crown type device for input.

Without someone to copy in the watch department, they have shown their own designers to be clueless.

Look at the Galaxy Note 4 with it's chamfered edged aluminium....like the iPhone 5s.

Now the iPhone 6 has been released, look how the Galaxy S6 has rounded aluminium edges. They aren't coming up with any good ideas themselves.
 
All of which are half baked ideas.

Their next watch will feature swappable straps and bands, a taptic feedback engine and a digital crown type device for input.

Without someone to copy in the watch department, they have shown their own designers to be clueless.

Look at the Galaxy Note 4 with it's chamfered edged aluminium....like the iPhone 5s.

Now the iPhone 6 has been released, look how the Galaxy S6 has rounded aluminium edges. They aren't coming up with any good ideas themselves.

Rounded aluminum edges are nothing new and hardly something to gripe about as being revolutionary or worthy of another brand being called a copycat. Big deal.

They already have removable/replaceable straps

And I give credit for marketing their taptic feedback - and I will be very curious how it actually feels/works. But I've found the vibrations on both of my smart watches to be no more or less what I have needed.

As for the crown - who knows. Remains to be seen if this is truly a better way to interact with the device.

Personally - I think is was a cheap shot in this thread. There's no reason to bring up Samung or other manufacturers in "every" thread - even if it's to be "cute." Can we really not have a discussion about Apple without mentioning another brand? I would think there's plenty to talk about.
 
As opposed to the several watches they've been offering for a few years now?

Do you mean the gimmick devices with very poor success they are selling?
No no, we are speaking about Apple watch here...

I'm waiting for a "Samsung watch" next year.... Like the Samsung pay brilliant solution

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They will get used to it on no time. There is lot of people who hate changes. Apple have sein it all and I actually congratulate Samsung for going ahead and doing it.

If you were here in the last four years, watching Samsung's supporters reminding you every day how a removable battery and SD support were absolutely necessary :D
Lolololol :D

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If they were that concerned about battery life then Tim Cook had no business giving the watch such a high profile launch. I think the Execs at One Infinite Loop understand when and when not to go all out on a product launch. For all of them this is the most important product launch of their professional lives because if it flops -- because of poor battery life or anything else -- it's a serious black eye on them and Apple. The ramifications are too brutal to ponder.

Apple execs on at least two occasions, one recently by Tim Cook, stated all day battery life. So that is where they have set expectations. Now we just have to see exactly what kind of usage during the day qualifies the battery to last 18 hours and if it meets the average non-tech user's definition of lasting all day. I'm confident it will because too much is at stake for it not to.
All day battery life is absolutely acceptable, but we know very well how different usage could be from user to user...
 
The whole battery thing makes me laugh. "Be careful of apps being used for more than 10 seconds at a time!". :rolleyes:
 
[Apple] suggest that apps should be used for no longer than 10 seconds at a time.

Yikes! I think everybody should really think through that one. While the watch is not an iPhone, an interesting simulation you could do today is try to use your iPhone in <10 second interactions. What can you really do in < 10 seconds?

This makes me think it's much more read-only (notifications, etc) than "write" functional (to actually get much done).

Wonder what BMW has in store for the Apple Watch?

Showing how it can unlock a door without a fob because those fobs in our pockets are really weighing us down. I can barely walk sometimes because of the burden of having to carry that thing. :rolleyes:

* Quick glance data that you can access while driving without violating hands free cell phone laws. For example a text message or some system status.

The purpose of those laws is demanding that people controlling thousands of pounds of metal in rapid motion keep their eyes on the road. It's not about forbidding the use of a device with one kind or size of screen.

1. Use the starwood app and open your hotel room door with a single tap on your watch. No more taking out your wallet, looking for the key card, etc. (especially when you have your hands full)

Ahhh, one of those fairly-to-extraordinarily rare situations we cook up to make whatever Apple wants to sell fit a problem. I stay at a lot of hotels. I've learned to put their key card in the cash pocket so it's closest to the outside of the wallet. When my hands are so full pulling the wallet out would be a challenge (which is a very, very rare occurrence), I can bump my hip against the door sensor and it will unlock it. But not everyone is as tall as me.

So, how about the situation where someone else in your party needs to go up to the room? If you don't have the throwaway (little risk if it is lost) key, are you taking off your >=$349 watch so they can get into the room? Picture the kid running up to the room from the hotel pool carrying your watch to open the door. They come back, forget they have the watch in their pocket and jump back in the pool. (see... those rare, odd scenarios can work the other way too).

But ignore having a family for the single, living alone problems/opportunities often conjured to rationalize such things. Single guy steps out to the beach and decides he wants to take a swim. Now, he locks the hotel key up in the fortress of security known as his shoe. If the >=$349 watch is your hotel key, will you stick it in the shoe and hope for the best too? If the keycard gets stolen, no big deal. Can the shoe work as well when the watch is in there?

2. Check in at the airport with an airline app? (if they enable such functionality) Just 2 of the most frequently used features I could definitely use.

The phone that will have to be with you at the time can cover this. I know we're now starting to try to spin the difficulty in pulling the phone out of our pocket as part of rationalizing why we all need watches on our wrist but funny how that difficulty has only popped up since the rumored watch has become something Apple is actually going to roll out. Prior to that, our gripes were about fobs, keycards and paper ticket hassles and more recently credit cards (to justify owning the latest iPhones).

Apple: Here's something we've invented coming soon.
Us: Quick, let's come up with problems & opportunities- even odd, rare problems or opportunities- where this thing will be useful... then dwell on that list and quote it regularly to help bring our peers around to why they need this new thing too.
 
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Yikes! I think everybody should really think through that one. While the watch is not an iPhone, an interesting simulation you could do today is try to use your iPhone in <10 second interactions. What can you really do in < 10 seconds?

This makes me think it's much more read-only (notifications, etc) than "write" functional (to actually get much done).



Showing how it can unlock a door without a fob because those fobs in our pockets are really weighing us down. I can barely walk sometimes because of the burden of having to carry that thing. :rolleyes:



Ahhh, one of those fairly-to-extraordinarily rare situations we cook up to make whatever Apple wants to sell fit a problem. I stay at a lot of hotels. I've learned to put their key card in the cash pocket so it's closest to the outside of the wallet. When my hands are so full pulling the wallet out would be a challenge (which is a very, very rare occurrence), I can bump my hip against the door sensor and it will unlock it. But not everyone is as tall as me.

So, how about the situation where someone else in your party needs to go up to the room? If you don't have the throwaway (little risk if it is lost) key, are you taking off your >=$349 watch so they can get into the room? Picture the kid running up to the room from the hotel pool carrying your watch to open the door. They come back, forget they have the watch in their pocket and jump back in the pool. (see... those rare, odd scenarios can work the other way too).



The phone that will have to be with you at the time can cover this. I know we're now starting to try to spin the difficulty in pulling the phone out of our pocket as part of rationalizing why we all need watches on our wrist but funny how that difficulty has only popped up since the rumored watch has become something Apple is actually going to roll out. Prior to that, our gripes were about fobs, keycards and paper ticket hassles and more recently credit cards (to justify owning the latest iPhones).

Apple: Here's something we've invented coming soon.
Us: Quick, let's come up with problems & opportunities- even odd, rare problems or opportunities- where this thing will be useful.


Cognitive Dissonance.
 
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