So that apps are going to mainly be 10 seconds long?
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But didn't Galaxy devices have NFC payments before the iPhone?
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But didn't Galaxy devices have NFC payments before the iPhone?
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HobeSoundDarryl
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Yes but it was a "stupid", "useless", "gimmick" technology that "99.9% did not need" then.
Then, everyone "evolved with the times" so that exactly at the point that Apple rolled it out, the stupidity and uselessness evaporated and the .1% quickly scaled up to become the new 99.9% "refusing to shop at any store that doesn't accept Apple pay".
Then, everyone "evolved with the times" so that exactly at the point that Apple rolled it out, the stupidity and uselessness evaporated and the .1% quickly scaled up to become the new 99.9% "refusing to shop at any store that doesn't accept Apple pay".
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Yes but it was a "stupid", "useless", "gimmick" technology that "99.9% did not need" then.
Then, everyone "evolved with the times" so that exactly at the point that Apple rolled it out, the stupidity and uselessness evaporated and the .1% quickly scaled up to become the new 99.9% "refusing to shop at any store that doesn't accept Apple pay".
This made me chuckle.
HobeSoundDarryl
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Probably because it's oh, so true.
If that's not enough, check back in about 3 years. By then Apple will have "invented NFC technology."
Someone like you or me might then counter, be challenged by 10 guys, show hard evidence, be called "trolls" and then the 10 will try to twist or change the subject with something like "but who has the most profitable smart phone" or, more commonly, "but Apple was the one who did it right."
If that's not enough, check back in about 3 years. By then Apple will have "invented NFC technology."
Someone like you or me might then counter, be challenged by 10 guys, show hard evidence, be called "trolls" and then the 10 will try to twist or change the subject with something like "but who has the most profitable smart phone" or, more commonly, "but Apple was the one who did it right."
Which is annoying. Even Tim cook admitted they're not first. They wait for the right time in most cases. But it is painful when you talking about how cool wireless charging is, it gets dismissed and then praised when the next iPhone has it.
The amount of annoying posts here in regards to ''oh, I like big phones now'' when the six plus was released. Ugh.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Par for the course. The overarching rule is whatever Apple has for sale now is THE one and only ideal, best option and all other competitors are "abominations", "stupid", "useless".
The only time that rule weakens is when the same rumor piles up enough to make us believe that Apple is going to change to something that we've historically ripped (stuff like screens bigger than 3.5" and then 4" or NFC). Once the rumors get thick enough that a bigger-screened iPhone or NFC is coming, the "abominations" transition through "wait and see" to "it's kind of growing on me" etc until Apple actually launches, confirming the rumors and initiating a wave of "shut up and take my money" and "best <thing> ever" evolving into "how did we ever get by with that former <thing>" (example: "how did we ever get by with those puny screens" which were never puny when they were the only screens available in iPhones-- then they were "perfect").
As soon as Apple launches the new thing, all the competitor's stuff that differs from whatever Apple has chosen to sell now becomes the new "garbage" and "stupid" and "99.9% don't want". Rinse & repeat.
Occasionally, you'll have the odd scenario where Apple will make seemingly conflicting choices such that we have to argue for and against something at the same time. For example, when an iPad with Retina launched along with an iPad mini without retina, "we" made passionate arguments for why a 9.7" screen had to have retina but a 7.9" screen didn't. Then, iPad Mini 2 with retina is launched and all that justification for why a 7.9" screen didn't need retina evaporated, replaced with how the retina mini was definitely worth the upgrade just for that beautiful retina screen.
Again, par for the course. I expect much of the same with this
Watch. Before Watch rumors, all smart watches were "stupid", "I never wear a watch", "my phone has replaced my need for a watch". Then the rumors starting piling up that Apple might make a watch and the hedging positions passionately against smart watches began to post. Then, Apple revealed that it was indeed going to roll out a smart watch and we're in the "wait & see" to "I'm already in line" stage. It launches in a few days to "shut up and take my money" and "how did we ever get by without a smart watch before"... and all other watches will become "stupid", "useless", and "99% don't want".
It will be perfection in every possible way at launch... until next year or so when the second edition is launched and then it will be the new perfect and the first one will get the "how did we ever get by with that <negative punch>" as part of rationalizing why we all must upgrade to the new one.
At least, we're a consistent group.
The only time that rule weakens is when the same rumor piles up enough to make us believe that Apple is going to change to something that we've historically ripped (stuff like screens bigger than 3.5" and then 4" or NFC). Once the rumors get thick enough that a bigger-screened iPhone or NFC is coming, the "abominations" transition through "wait and see" to "it's kind of growing on me" etc until Apple actually launches, confirming the rumors and initiating a wave of "shut up and take my money" and "best <thing> ever" evolving into "how did we ever get by with that former <thing>" (example: "how did we ever get by with those puny screens" which were never puny when they were the only screens available in iPhones-- then they were "perfect").
As soon as Apple launches the new thing, all the competitor's stuff that differs from whatever Apple has chosen to sell now becomes the new "garbage" and "stupid" and "99.9% don't want". Rinse & repeat.
Occasionally, you'll have the odd scenario where Apple will make seemingly conflicting choices such that we have to argue for and against something at the same time. For example, when an iPad with Retina launched along with an iPad mini without retina, "we" made passionate arguments for why a 9.7" screen had to have retina but a 7.9" screen didn't. Then, iPad Mini 2 with retina is launched and all that justification for why a 7.9" screen didn't need retina evaporated, replaced with how the retina mini was definitely worth the upgrade just for that beautiful retina screen.
Again, par for the course. I expect much of the same with this
Watch. Before Watch rumors, all smart watches were "stupid", "I never wear a watch", "my phone has replaced my need for a watch". Then the rumors starting piling up that Apple might make a watch and the hedging positions passionately against smart watches began to post. Then, Apple revealed that it was indeed going to roll out a smart watch and we're in the "wait & see" to "I'm already in line" stage. It launches in a few days to "shut up and take my money" and "how did we ever get by without a smart watch before"... and all other watches will become "stupid", "useless", and "99% don't want".It will be perfection in every possible way at launch... until next year or so when the second edition is launched and then it will be the new perfect and the first one will get the "how did we ever get by with that <negative punch>" as part of rationalizing why we all must upgrade to the new one.
At least, we're a consistent group.
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The Watch SDK has been out for months. Apple is definitely not holding onto sourcecode. Why would they? People all over the world are developing on the Xcode simulator. The value in going to HQ is to try it out on the real device.
Smart plan by Apple. This story is greatly exaggerating the level of security though.
Matter of fact, in most cases that's just true....
And competitors demonstrated that multiple time by producing a "2.0" version of their stuff mimicking Apple's product.....
I strongly suspect we are going to see the same after Apple watch introduction. New Samsung's gear will be quite different from actual implementation
No, it's the other way around.
If you want to get a glimpse of the next iphone look at the current Galaxy S6.
How are you enjoying that new larger screen? Samsung Pay is already 10x more accepted than Apple Pay.
I could go on but you probably have a line to wait in ...
Yes, that's an excellent way to put it. Hype, by definition, is self-promotion by means of extravagant claims. It's an abused word. Buzz denotes excitment or interest that could come from any source.
Par for the course. The overarching rule is whatever Apple has for sale now is THE one and only ideal, best option and all other competitors are "abominations", "stupid", "useless".
The only time that rule weakens is when the same rumor piles up enough to make us believe that Apple is going to change to something that we've historically ripped (stuff like screens bigger than 3.5" and then 4" or NFC). Once the rumors get thick enough that a bigger-screened iPhone or NFC is coming, the "abominations" transition through "wait and see" to "it's kind of growing on me" etc until Apple actually launches, confirming the rumors and initiating a wave of "shut up and take my money" and "best <thing> ever" evolving into "how did we ever get by with that former <thing>" (example: "how did we ever get by with those puny screens" which were never puny when they were the only screens available in iPhones-- then they were "perfect").
As soon as Apple launches the new thing, all the competitor's stuff that differs from whatever Apple has chosen to sell now becomes the new "garbage" and "stupid" and "99.9% don't want". Rinse & repeat.
Occasionally, you'll have the odd scenario where Apple will make seemingly conflicting choices such that we have to argue for and against something at the same time. For example, when an iPad with Retina launched along with an iPad mini without retina, "we" made passionate arguments for why a 9.7" screen had to have retina but a 7.9" screen didn't. Then, iPad Mini 2 with retina is launched and all that justification for why a 7.9" screen didn't need retina evaporated, replaced with how the retina mini was definitely worth the upgrade just for that beautiful retina screen.
Again, par for the course. I expect much of the same with this
It will be perfection in every possible way at launch... until next year or so when the second edition is launched and then it will be the new perfect and the first one will get the "how did we ever get by with that <negative punch>" as part of rationalizing why we all must upgrade to the new one.
At least, we're a consistent group.
It's not only consistent, it's pathetic and it holds back innovation. Apple knows people will buy whatever product it puts out, so there is no reward in inmovating.
That's why 90% of what is new to Apple is not really new to the industry.
I picture a room full of BMW and Starwood engineers all wearing orange Apple-provided jumpsuits.
Just so they won't have any pockets.
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But it doesn't hold back Samsung and Xiaomi from mindlessly copying Apple's designs.
Now *that's* pathetic.
Or is it? Samsung and Xiaomi know that if they don't mimic Apple products closely enough, their own products won't sell. So actually it's a shrewd business tactic. Therefore it's the consumers who buy Samsung and Xiaomi products that are pathetic.
Thanks.
Media is a gray area. Much of media is driven by the marketers (some is even paid promotion disguised as news), though some media is an honest reaction to the products, or to the buzz those products generate.
The media jumps on bandwagons. This has always been the case but it is only exacerbated today by the perceived need to be fast if not first, and the ease by which one media source can crib from another, often repeating information that is unverified, or just plain wrong. It can be kind of annoying when this characterized as "hype," when it's really just careless reporting creating an echo-chamber affect.
Not really--I am simply saying what are going to do a small screen in 10 seconds? Break all the rules--think up any app you like--the design constraints are just too severe
I think we will be ok.
Maybe I just haven't seen it, but in the back and forth about battery life, no one has mentioned that Tim Cook, the one who stated the watch would have all day batter life, probably has a way more connected life than any one here.
Someone did mention his routine of waking up early and staying up late. However, no one has brought up the idea of how many notifications he receives a day. How many times we has to check his watch to see when his next appointment is, or if he will be on time for that appointment. He gets emails, texts, calls, all sorts of notifications throughout the day. If the watch can survive a day of use on his wrist, I think that it will do for most.
Or I could be wrong and everyone can laugh at me. Either-or.
Maybe I just haven't seen it, but in the back and forth about battery life, no one has mentioned that Tim Cook, the one who stated the watch would have all day batter life, probably has a way more connected life than any one here.
Someone did mention his routine of waking up early and staying up late. However, no one has brought up the idea of how many notifications he receives a day. How many times we has to check his watch to see when his next appointment is, or if he will be on time for that appointment. He gets emails, texts, calls, all sorts of notifications throughout the day. If the watch can survive a day of use on his wrist, I think that it will do for most.
Or I could be wrong and everyone can laugh at me. Either-or.
imho--whenever people cite use cases--the benefits of the watch over a phone are vanishingly small, or even negative . I am predicting this will be the most "returned" product in apple history. People will try it for reasons of brand enthusiasm, realize its ugly and useless and then return it, en masse. Also, percent of female watch buyers to be in the low single digits.
I was just reading about a guy who got a Delta boarding pass barcode pushed to his Android Wear watch.
But partly because of the weird positions that scanners are oriented... which don't work very well with a device that is strapped to your wrist... he decided it was difficult to use, and didn't plan to use it again:
http://www.androidcentral.com/smartwatch-boarding-pass-anything-first-class
Then, everyone "evolved with the times" so that exactly at the point that Apple rolled it out, the stupidity and uselessness evaporated and the .1% quickly scaled up to become the new 99.9% "refusing to shop at any store that doesn't accept Apple pay".
Ever stand in lie behind some using apple pay? plenty of time for evolution!
I'm not into wearables, but the ability to remotely lock/unlock my car via smart watch would justify the purchase for me, because I don't want to pull my 5.2 inch phone out and fumble around to find and launch the app. My key fob suffices atm. Since BMW is showing interest, I wonder if they plan to implement this kind of feature. It wouldn't be a stretch to think Viper might have an iWatch extension in their pipeline.
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I haven't actually had the displeasure yet, but while were on topic...
WHY DO PEOPLE STILL PAY WITH CHECKS?? When I HAVE to cashier at work, my ability to accept cash and make change is faster than even debit or credit. Maybe its because I work predominately with old people, which includes asking them several times a)please swipe the damn card, b)is this debit or credit, and don't just tell me–select it! c)enter the effing pin, d)do you want some g'damn cash back????, and e)please re-enter your pin because you obviously entered the wrong one, *******!!!! (sometimes I have to ask them ALL THE ABOVE..)
/END RANT.
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I haven't actually had the displeasure yet, but while were on topic...
WHY DO PEOPLE STILL PAY WITH CHECKS?? When I HAVE to cashier at work, my ability to accept cash and make change is faster than even debit or credit. Maybe its because I work predominately with old people, which includes asking them several times a)please swipe the damn card, b)is this debit or credit, and don't just tell me–select it! c)enter the effing pin, d)do you want some g'damn cash back????, and e)please re-enter your pin because you obviously entered the wrong one, *******!!!! (sometimes I have to ask them ALL THE ABOVE..)
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Except the conclusion isn't exactly accurate. Although it more closely relates to interpersonal communications, it applies here. You can never not communicate. The very attempt not to communicate communicates something.