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New rMBP To Feature More Than Just New Processor

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MyiBill

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If the new rMPB were just going to upgraded to Haswell why wouldnt Apple have rolled them out with the new iMacs or even MBA for that matter. If they are being saved for the next keynote along with the iPad then expect something more. Maybe the return of a 17" model now that they can create bigger retina displays, or maybe they are going to color the cases to the new "space grey" color.
 
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This couldn't have gone in the Waiting for Haswell Mega-thread?
 
some people have been waiting since April...

the new Retina better fly, have lasers, and cure cancer so as to not dissapoint
 
This rumor is about two months old and probably accounts for part of the wait (if it's true of course):

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/2...-high-end-haswell-processors-for-macbook-pro/

It must take time to build up enough inventory of these processors.

At this late time Apple might be waiting for Mavericks but since it's hard to say how close Mavericks is to GM that's difficult to say too. But if Apple is going more for performance upgrades with Haswell compared to the MB Airs where battery life was the priority, then Mavericks might be necessary to get the extra battery life Apple is likely going to tout.

It's been such a long wait that I wouldn't rule anything out, even a 17" rMBP or different colors/finishes to the rMBP's even though IMO these are not likely.
 
If you want to know what the next MBP will be, look at what Samsung is about to release. Lately those little guys have been coming out with things before Apple i.e.color phones.
 
My guess is they need both mavericks and Haswell combined to each the battery life they want. I doubt we will see TB2 yet as IIRC it is not supported natively yet.
 
I think the only thing holding up the release of Haswell rMBPs is the accumulation of sufficient numbers of suitable Haswell processors.

The feature improvements I expect to see are:
- Haswell CPUs (definitely)
- 802.11ac (definitely)
- PCIe SSD (definitely)
- 1080p FaceTime camera (probably)
- Thunderbolt 2 (maybe)
 
I don't agree with the logic of the opening post.

Reason is because Apple is waiting to officially announce their best selling computer device in the MBP?

That too, the new design is just a year old. Seriously... what can they change or improve? Maybe they'll add an ethernet port due to the backlash. But that's about it.
 
mcarling said:
I think the only thing holding up the release of Haswell rMBPs is the accumulation of sufficient numbers of suitable Haswell processors.

The feature improvements I expect to see are:
- Haswell CPUs (definitely)
- 802.11ac (definitely)
- PCIe SSD (definitely)
- 1080p FaceTime camera (probably)
- Thunderbolt 2 (maybe)
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I think you're right for the Haswell, 802,11AC and PCIe SSD which would be a definite upgrade. However, by looking at the new Haswell iMac, I can't see 1080p is happening. I think the new camera will be improved in low light just like the new iPhone 5C & 5S. Thunderbolt 2 isn't on the new iMac as well so...

:apple: Surprise us!
 
AXs said:
I don't agree with the logic of the opening post.

Reason is because Apple is waiting to officially announce their best selling computer device in the MBP?

That too, the new design is just a year old. Seriously... what can they change or improve? Maybe they'll add an ethernet port due to the backlash. But that's about it.
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Exactly if it's their best selling device (probably the air anyway) why wait then? You can't charge premium prices for outdated tech forever. The 15" starts at over 2k and doesn't even have the newest processor. And when they do wait along time they release something really great not just a regular old update.
 
This is the only commentary...

This commentary alone, I treat as the bible and prophecy for anything this red juicy fruit company attempts to push out, check this out:

http://youtu.be/GpH4hrV38J0?t=37s


The message behind it we can all get right? They keep putting things out a little behind every other PC company and yet so many of us sit at the edge of our seats drooling at anti-climatic releases for the past 6 years.

I'm waiting for 2025 Oct. personally..

^_^
 
vpro said:
This commentary alone, I treat as the bible and prophecy for anything this red juicy fruit company attempts to push out, check this out:

http://youtu.be/GpH4hrV38J0?t=37s


The message behind it we can all get right? They keep putting things out a little behind every other PC company and yet so many of us sit at the edge of our seats drooling at anti-climatic releases for the past 6 years.

I'm waiting for 2025 Oct. personally..

^_^
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This has worked in the past but now apple is more "mainstream" and regular consumers are always going to go with what's more probably. Until the last year or two apple had no real competition but now they have samsung, and to a lesser extent sony and microsoft. I still think they make the best stuff out there but this whole making people wait for what we think they should have is what Steve Jobs did and he did it excellently but Tim Cook isn't he and competition is coming up fast. I know its a completely different field but something similar happen with Toyota. They had great realiable cars but they never had flashly insides or designs since they never had any good competition at their price point. But now ford and Chevy have had a remarkable turnaround and toyota is loosing ground and now the insides of their cars are high end and flashy plenty of screens and other tech
 
I'm expecting new price points or Apple just wants to demonstrate Mavericks on at least 1 new machine they are releasing.
 
john556 said:
could you imagine the wattage a 17 rMBP would consume?
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The power consumption of the display would scale with its area. The space available for the battery would scale similarly, so I don't see any problem there.
 
henry72 said:
I think you're right for the Haswell, 802,11AC and PCIe SSD which would be a definite upgrade. However, by looking at the new Haswell iMac, I can't see 1080p is happening. I think the new camera will be improved in low light just like the new iPhone 5C & 5S. Thunderbolt 2 isn't on the new iMac as well so...

:apple: Surprise us!
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i don't think the iMac is a 'pro' product, the mac pro and the macbook pro are 'pro' products, thus i believe they will have thunderbolt 2 so they can take advantage of possibly a 4k cinema display to come along side the mac pro

also hdmi 2.0 was released on sep 4 which also might be a reason for the delays so the 'pro' product can connect to a 4k monitor at 60fps

also i read an article that at the time of the air release intel had not manufactured many quad core chips yet.

it makes sense for them to stick to their update schedule that falls in october

and mavericks will help them push their 'improved battery' claims further for the presentation

so i think the above are the real reasons why there is a delay, i highly doubt IZGO or fingerprint or ext...
 
sorry to ask ..but the CPU on the iMacs aren't better than macbook pros?
the dGPU on the iMACS aren't better than macbook pros?
the Ram on the imacs isn't better than macbook pros?

so imac is not a PRO product because is call simple iMAC and not iMAC PRO

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i really hope they put a choice on macbook pro 15"

base model with Iris Pro
high model with 755M

and maybe a 17" macbook with 775M
 
Serban said:
sorry to ask ..but the CPU on the iMacs aren't better than macbook pros?
the dGPU on the iMACS aren't better than macbook pros?
the Ram on the imacs isn't better than macbook pros?

so imac is not a PRO product because is call simple iMAC and not iMAC PRO

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i really hope they put a choice on macbook pro 15"

base model with Iris Pro
high model with 755M

and maybe a 17" macbook with 775M
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if you want to compare a laptop to an imac then you might consider the imac 'pro'

but in reality the imac is normal desktop, the mac pro is pro desktop (designed for people who do intensive stuff)

the mba/cmbp are normal laptop, the rmbp is pro laptop (designed for people who do intensive stuff)

the chances that someone with an imac would purchase a 4k monitor is much lower in comparison to a person with a rmbp purchasing a 4k monitor (and actually needing it to run at 60Hz vs the 30Hz TB1 can do)
 
Could also be that Apple will be announcing a new 4K Thunderbolt display along side the new Mac Pro and want to show off the new rMBP alongside it.
 
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