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but the thief could always just put it in dfu to let it crash. i dont think its possible to get rid of that option if your phone freezes and doesnt respond for example
DFU is one thing but the normal process of holding down the sleep/wake button to call up the swipe to turn off... That should require my password.

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Huh? How often do you shutdown? Not restart, I mean, full shutdown?

I do it maybe once or twice a year.
Exactly.
 
There is an option to disable Control Center on the lockscreen.

But I don't want to disable Control Center. I just want to disable the toggle for Airplane Mode.

None of this will help a lot in case of theft, since a thief can simply pop out the SIM, or put the phone into a mylar bag or metal box to block the signal.

Of course it will help. Even if it's just a little, it's better than nothing. My first suggestion could slow down a dumb thief (and please don't overestimate the intelligence of the average thief.) Sure, a smart thief could remove the SIM, or put the phone into a signal-blocking metal box. He could also cut off your fingers and shoot you in the head. But that's not the point. Every little bit of intelligent software to slow down the possibility of the iPhone being untrackable, the better. Just because it can't be 100% impossible to steal doesn't mean Apple can't do their best to make it 90% impossible to steal. Or at the very least, more of a pain in the butt, or somewhat scary, to try and steal.

And my second suggestion had nothing to do with theft. It had to do with someone putting their iOS device into Airplane Mode deliberately (say, on an airplane) and then forgetting it or losing it. If Airplane Mode had a built in expiry, or a timer that could be set, then the device could be trackable eventually. This has nothing to do with a thief pulling the SIM out, or putting the device in a mular bag.
 
The story states:
when the battery drains to a critical level

So I'm guessing that the software will know when the battery is at a critical level and record its location. If a thief was to turn it off before the critical battery stage nothing would be sent to Apple.

That's my take on it anyway.

define critical level?

20% the battery warning comes on and the battery indicator goes red.

So apple will/maybe collecting location data of lots of people?

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Great new addition to theft/loss security.

But where is "Require Apple ID & Password to power off device"

Seems like a freaking no brainer to me.

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That's why I suggest require AID password to turn off. Just like you need the password to turn off Find My iPhone

Oh I don't want that. I just want to press the button to turn it off. Its bad enough anyone can place your finger on the touch ID to unlock it without a panic mode i.e. press shutdown button twice to trigger password unlock. So I really don't want to be taking time trying to shut my phone off (by putting in my password) to prevent someone getting into it.
 
I always thought that the phone my phone feature was a bit lame. I mean when your phone is really lost (not under your sofa lost) it will run out of battery and/or be shut off.

My mate lost his phone on the highway in Japan. Left in in some washroom or fell out or something. Totally no hope of finding it. He gave me his ID so I could look it up but since the batter was long gone all I could do was set it to be wiped and send a sound alert/message alert. No reply to this day.

These find my phone services are pretty much useless in my opinion unless you can search for it when the battery is off or someone attempts to shut it off without entering your Apple ID or finger print.
 
Huh? How often do you shutdown? Not restart, I mean, full shutdown?

I do it maybe once or twice a year.

How often do you travel? When roaming my iPhone tends to lose its ability to connect to data networks (any data network: 3G, edge, etc.), even after I've returned to my home country. Only way to fix this seems to be to shutdown and restart the phone. So in my case it is at least twice a month, but during travel it can even be twice a day.
 
Great new addition to theft/loss security.

But where is "Require Apple ID & Password to power off device"

Seems like a freaking no brainer to me

Exactly. 5 seconds (or less) to require your fingerprint in touch ID before you can power off your iOS device. And this issue would be alleviated.

Apple so needs to do this ASAP.
 
Or how about allowing the user to set a timer, so that when they do intentionally turn on Airplane Mode (ie: actually on an Airplane, or in a meeting, or whatever) that Airplane Mode will turn itself off? I've had a friend or two lose their iPhone on an flight, and because they turned on Airplane Mode, they had no chance to get it back.

There should also be an option to remove the "Airplane Mode" button from the lockscreen. Because a thief turning on Airplane Mode means "Find My iPhone" won't work.

Yes, I've already sent these suggestions to Apple.

Or better yet, a fake Airplane Mode and shutdown! :eek: Siri: "Oh I promise you mr Thief, there is no internet happening here. ;)"
 
Does this mean Apple can track a dead device? Or is that silly?

It reports where the device was just before it died.

Having spent months looking for an iPod Touch (long after it died), only to find it slipped between bed frame & mattress, having "last known location" would have been very helpful, or at least comforting to know it was somewhere in the house.

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define critical level? 20% the battery warning comes on and the battery indicator goes red.

"Critical" is "battery is about to die, system has about 1 minute left to shut everything down safely, report last known location, and enter deep hibernation; user interaction is now disallowed in favor of maintaining system integrity; uncooperative threads will be terminated immediately."
 
How often do you travel? When roaming my iPhone tends to lose its ability to connect to data networks (any data network: 3G, edge, etc.), even after I've returned to my home country. Only way to fix this seems to be to shutdown and restart the phone. So in my case it is at least twice a month, but during travel it can even be twice a day.

That's why the poster said:

Where is "Require Apple ID & Password to power off device"

Which indicates an settable option.
 
This is a great new feature, and like Find iPhone, entirely optional.

For more features, I have the Prey Project app (and a few others)--although the Prey Project app does not yet work with iOS 8. It also tracks Macs and iPads, as well as iPhones.

Don't forget that Activation Lock still prevents a thief from using the phone, also; also a great relatively new feature. I wish the person who took my iPhone 4 came up against that.
 
Or how about allowing the user to set a timer, so that when they do intentionally turn on Airplane Mode (ie: actually on an Airplane, or in a meeting, or whatever) that Airplane Mode will turn itself off? I've had a friend or two lose their iPhone on an flight, and because they turned on Airplane Mode, they had no chance to get it back.

There should also be an option to remove the "Airplane Mode" button from the lockscreen. Because a thief turning on Airplane Mode means "Find My iPhone" won't work.

Yes, I've already sent these suggestions to Apple.

I have disabled Control Center from my lock screen under Settings. As handy as the flashlight and calculator would be to get in a second, Control Center at the lock screen just gives too much control to someone who has my phone without a password.
 
Agreed. And since with a 5s all you need to do is unlock with one finger/thumb, then swipe up to get Control Centre, that's what I'm going to do now. You said this well.


I have disabled Control Center from my lock screen under Settings. As handy as the flashlight and calculator would be to get in a second, Control Center at the lock screen just gives too much control to someone who has my phone without a password.
 
This is a nice feature, similar to something I have setup on my Nexus 5.

Using Tasker I have it setup so that when my phone hits 5% battery it sends a message to my other half to tell her that my phone battery is going flat. Something that actually happens more regularly on my iphone though....

Yeah, I know that no one on here wants to hear that something other than IOS can do something useful, I am just hoping to share as the more users demand it, the more likely Apple are to provide it. That way, we (the customer) all win.
 
Huh? How often do you shutdown? Not restart, I mean, full shutdown?

I do it maybe once or twice a year.

Depends, on my older iPhone/iPad Mini there's a particular game (Real Racing 3) that will repeatedly crash if I don't full shutdown then restart about once a week. If not for that, yeah maybe once or twice a year ;).
 
But I don't want to disable Control Center. I just want to disable the toggle for Airplane Mode.
Control Center on the lock screen is pretty much unnecessary with Touch ID.
Of course it will help. Even if it's just a little, it's better than nothing. My first suggestion could slow down a dumb thief (and please don't overestimate the intelligence of the average thief.) Sure, a smart thief could remove the SIM, or put the phone into a signal-blocking metal box.
Personally, I am much more interested in knowing that my information is well secured than in convoluted ways of trying to trick a "stupid thief" into exposing his location. I would never risk going after a thief myself anyway. A phone is easily replaced, and insurance is cheap if need be (or even free with the right credit card). I believe the Find my Iphone function is mostly intended for losses, not theft.
 
Do GPS chips have unique identifiers? If so it would be cool if apple can link that to findmyiphone so even if the device is wiped you would be able to find it. Another interesting thing would be to figure out how to track it even when off. Doesn't the M7 still work when the device runs out of battery or is off?

The phone _could_ send the location when the activation screen is up, or when it is on the lock screen. And in both cases Apple _could_ know which phone it is.
 
Make use of Siri. Send a message to the device, and have Siri start screaming. That would be a brilliant go at a few friends.

All kidding aside, using Touch ID as many have suggested in shutting down your device makes a lot of sense. An option for those who don't want to be bothered, but for others, one more step in protecting our devices. :)
 
Oh I don't want that. I just want to press the button to turn it off. Its bad enough anyone can place your finger on the touch ID to unlock it without a panic mode i.e. press shutdown button twice to trigger password unlock. So I really don't want to be taking time trying to shut my phone off (by putting in my password) to prevent someone getting into it.
You are missing the point. First, if they are going to bring your finger with the stolen phone, the phone is the least of your problems. Second, people want a pw for shutdown to keep the phone ON. So that it can be tracked. Theoretically, they can't get into it because of the password, anyway.
 
On a related note, does anyone know if "Notify if found" in Find My iPhone works if the phone ends up stuck at the activation lock after a restore attempt?
 
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