Shortly after the original Siri app was placed in the App Store on Feb 4 2010, I saw its potential and sent an email to Jobs suggesting that Apple should use Siri as a starting point to work heavily in AI to boost Siri's capabilities. I didn't hear back, but shortly after, Apple bought Siri and removed it from the App Store.
It’s literally using electricity in the power grid which could go to actual humans instead of raising prices. Or the fact Samsung and others are making memory for AI uses instead of consumer market making it expensive for us to buy ram. AI is literally useless that we don’t need to run our lives. Humans have survived centuries without it.
How old are you?? I bet you weren’t around back then.
Lucky for us Apple will not let Google have and user data. It stays on Apple’s servers. Google gets none of it.
I could see it. I don’t code with Xcode but wondering if they would tightly integrate it there.
You are the greatest predictor imaginable. Top ten. In fact I’ve never heard of a more perfect predictor.
I am interested in knowing the specifics; it is possible that the information you need to share to get a project done will be anonymized (as in sent in with a bunch of other user requests), but I doubt there is a way this product would work if Google gets none of the data.
I hope you're right, but I was using the original pre-Apple Siri in ways that existing Siri still can't approach, so I don't share your enthusiasm.
Where do you see this spelled out? Or are you just assuming based on experience with software dev? Integrating a much less complex system than this would be difficult in a double-blind way, as I can't imagine Gemini is set up to be installed and managed locally. I'm not suggesting it wouldn't be possible, but if Apple wants to stay up with advancements in Gemini tech over time I seriously doubt they'll have their own parallel version of Gemini that doesn't interact and share data with Google in some meaningful ways.
That’s not how it works.
This is how it will work.
Apple has been investing in AI for years. The Neural Engine has been in iPhones since 2017. The car project was research that got canceled before it became a real product, which is what good companies do.
The Neural Engine Apple shipped in 2017 wasn't built for this... it's Machine Learning focused... think recognizing a face, filtering background from audio, autocorrect prediction. Fast, efficient, narrow. Almost all of Apple's Neural Engines to date have focused on performing discriminative ML, aka pattern matching against known data. The hardware itself was designed for these narrow purposes.
Modern LLMs are generative rather than discriminative. They don't match patterns; they build context through logic and connections in their training. Generative work demands massive memory bandwidth and hardware-level support for the code/math that lets a model hold an entire conversation in its head while deciding what comes next.
technically they've all stolen data to get where they are as LLMs, but I get your meaning.
I get all of that. I'm just saying it won't be anything different from what's already available. It's just Apple playing catch-up. I don't find anything exciting about that.
Year after year Apple claims privacy, then suddenly they jump in bed with Google.
If Anthropic wants to charge 3x the price, Claude needs to be 3x as good as Gemini. Right now, I can’t reasonably say that’s the case.
It's interesting, though, that Apple was willing to torch untold billions on the car project but won't use their cash pile to buy Anthropic and take control of their AI destiny. Maybe AI is just a commodity and it makes more sense to rent than own, but this seems rather short-sighted to me. Eventually AI will be baked into every aspect of the OS. How can Apple really innovate in the AI space if they rent their AI tech from someone else?
It's easy to criticize after the fact. Before ChatGPT arrived in 2022, no company gave serious consideration to AI. Now suddenly they're all scrambling for a part of the cake.
